Extremely lost and confused between Electrical Engineering and IT

soulweaver said:
From my cousin's experience (echoed by a few of my friends), the biggest challenge in Europe is language. While I didn't study there, I travelled extensively (retraced the steps of Jason Bourne, after having read and been inspired by the Bourne Trilogy), I can say that it is only in Major cities and tourist spots that people speak English.

And not knowing the language will put a dent in your prospects of being hired. The same is true of being able to secure parttime jobs as well.

I could easily see the difference in experience that I had (can speak some French, and can read and understand fairly well), vs what my friends had, while in France. I enjoyed the trip, and had a much better time and spent a lot less, and managed to a lot more that they did.
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Yeah I'm learning German at the moment to boost my chances of being hired and selected at a college. Makes sense to learn the language and integrate with the society if you plan on living there or in your case, even going there for a tour or something, language makes a difference.
nRiTeCh said:
NO harm getting a degree right now as the current slag might end in a year or two and only few stream are affected right now.
This might also help you..

Is it worth it to go to education fairs etc if you're looking to study abroad?

From what I know, there is nothing useful that comes from these fairs etc. from companies like EdVoy, Upgrad, EdWise... Has anyone been to these and is the fair worth my time? As far as I know, they say representatives from unis are there but I have a had time believing unis send reps just for...
techenclave.com techenclave.com
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Ahokay, thank you. Yeah, I'm probably just planning on riding out the recession. Am I wrong in looking at the Return on Investment while trying to study abroad? I mean, it isn't the only criteria but at the same time, my parebts are investing a lot of money into me so I'm a little concerned if I can't get a job after.

Like soulweaver mentioned, I'm learning the language of the countries I plan on studying in.
 
hellblazer33 said:
Even IT is not safe now currently recession is going on if you've heard
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I'm in IT and know that very well. I'm speaking specifically for overseas.
In India its all artificial inflation tbh. We do have ample of IT jobs but now these cos. have made them internal-referrals only!
FXGalvatron said:
Ahokay, thank you. Yeah, I'm probably just planning on riding out the recession. Am I wrong in looking at the Return on Investment while trying to study abroad? I mean, it isn't the only criteria but at the same time, my parebts are investing a lot of money into me so I'm a little concerned if I can't get a job after.

Like soulweaver mentioned, I'm learning the language of the countries I plan on studying in.
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90% of Indians sole motto to study abroad is to earn big fat pay cheques which will further help them get a good bride or a groom/rishta in rich families/easy dowry, support their poor families in India upon their return or take their parents to settle in the west while getting that green card etc. etc.
But very few percentage of these students actually opt for higher studies abroad for the educational quality, study pattern, understand their culture, meet people across the globe etc.

Its up to you where you want to land but even if you are not able to secure that great fat pay job your degree isn't wasted and you can grab an attractive salary here as well.

Education never gets wasted..just requires the right approach to make something good of it!
 
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FXGalvatron said:
but at the moment, it's clear that AI is here and could make some jobs redundant.
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It is established here, that no one knows the future. But whatever you do enjoy in computers, IT, and software today, might not be required in a real job very soon. So try to analyse what exactly you like in this field.

Example : one of the things I enjoy is the details, using an item (software/framework/command line) the way it was intended and which makes sense as per its design. For any new item I work with, typically an LLM knows about it much better than I do. If I start learning that item for my own recreation, I might be left behind in my job by others. If I don't learn it, one of the things that I enjoy has been removed from my job.

Of course the above was a gross oversimplification, and initially I am even enjoying learning how to use the LLM frameworks, but I hope you got the point. The exact parts of our brain that are used for working with computers is changing in the short term.

So if I employ an LLM for that part of the job, my job is to ensure whatever it did is correct, and makes sense in the job I'm in, which the LLM can't understand properly in its current form. Luckily I enjoy that too. But I'm using different parts of my brain for about a year than I used to, and I can feel it. It is very likely to shift further in coming year or two - this part doesn't seem speculation to me. Whether the jobs will go away due to AI is in some ways a speculation, a topic for another discussion.
 
Interestingly for Japan, whether they like it or not, they are going to need lot of foreign workers to keep things running.

www.bloomberg.com

Record 2 Million Foreign Workers Are Changing the Face of Japan

As a labor shortage worsens, companies procure help from overseas
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com

www.bbc.com

Japan nappy maker shifts from babies to adults

Since 2011, sales of adult nappies have outpaced those for infants in Japan as its population ages.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

People should have to learn Japanese language which is definitely hard, deal with rough climate, routine earthquakes, harsh working conditions, not-so-hidden but hidden racism, curious culture, etc. Also, distance from India to JP will make many people think twice.
 
I feel its a very personal preference to create a road map of future and manifest the things you really want in life.

Still just felt adding my 2 cents here..
I feel after gaining some experience in any field, getting into self-employment is eventually better. In India i see people growing in industries related to construction and real estate businesses.
Jobs take people to max 2-3-4-5L/month. Not more and then higher salary people are layed off 1st.
My father has a electrical business and he is also an electrical consultant. With his help all the way till date, im into Lighting business and im also a Lighting consultant.
We see architects, electrical supervisors, interior designers, professional business owners doing really well and having complete freedom of time. No boss, no convincing anyone. Just professional attitude with good hold on conversation skills and knowledge of field.
And incomes have been seen in tune of 20k-2L/project where minimum people are doing 3 projects in a month and go upto 50 projects a month. People in this industry are buying properties worth crores and then multiplying assets through selling n buying more properties. Few people even reached the level of having properties across the world, having supercars in India and still being humble and professional.
Example of such a person who has good hold on Design, materials, and tech is Aamir Sharma (insta: https://www.instagram.com/aamirsharma/?hl=en ).
As he suggests, you can explore electrical Automation, blend it with Ai, become a unique professional in that field as well. Eventually building your own brand name n brand consumer base. Hope this adds value to your thoughts.
 
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TEUser2K1 said:
People should have to learn Japanese language which is definitely hard, deal with rough climate, routine earthquakes, harsh working conditions, not-so-hidden but hidden racism, curious culture, etc. Also, distance from India to JP will make many people think twice.
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The language is not hard to speak in terms of pronunciation.

It's harder to read though when they mix Kanji (Chinese characters) with Japanese characters. Latter is no harder to pick up than any Indian language. These days with phones helping with auto translate of written things the gap can be bridged faster.
 
nRiTeCh said:
I'm in IT and know that very well. I'm speaking specifically for overseas.
In India its all artificial inflation tbh. We do have ample of IT jobs but now these cos. have made them internal-referrals only!

90% of Indians sole motto to study abroad is to earn big fat pay cheques which will further help them get a good bride or a groom/rishta in rich families/easy dowry, support their poor families in India upon their return or take their parents to settle in the west while getting that green card etc. etc.
But very few percentage of these students actually opt for higher studies abroad for the educational quality, study pattern, understand their culture, meet people across the globe etc.

Its up to you where you want to land but even if you are not able to secure that great fat pay job your degree isn't wasted and you can grab an attractive salary here as well.

Education never gets wasted..just requires the right approach to make something good of it!
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Well, one of my purposes of pursuing a Masters is that it makes me eligible for more higher-paying jobs compared to holding only a Bachelors. I am still quite young to think about marriage and all and my parents (at least on the outside) agree with it. Of course, I would also like to visit new places, experience a btter quality of life and just try to expand my mind by meeting new people and all that.

At the end of the day, education is a tool and its usefulness is dependant on how much I leverage it, I guess.

kiran6680 said:
It is established here, that no one knows the future. But whatever you do enjoy in computers, IT, and software today, might not be required in a real job very soon. So try to analyse what exactly you like in this field.

Example : one of the things I enjoy is the details, using an item (software/framework/command line) the way it was intended and which makes sense as per its design. For any new item I work with, typically an LLM knows about it much better than I do. If I start learning that item for my own recreation, I might be left behind in my job by others. If I don't learn it, one of the things that I enjoy has been removed from my job.

Of course the above was a gross oversimplification, and initially I am even enjoying learning how to use the LLM frameworks, but I hope you got the point. The exact parts of our brain that are used for working with computers is changing in the short term.

So if I employ an LLM for that part of the job, my job is to ensure whatever it did is correct, and makes sense in the job I'm in, which the LLM can't understand properly in its current form. Luckily I enjoy that too. But I'm using different parts of my brain for about a year than I used to, and I can feel it. It is very likely to shift further in coming year or two - this part doesn't seem speculation to me. Whether the jobs will go away due to AI is in some ways a speculation, a topic for another discussion.
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Ah yeah. THat makes sense. But yeah, I do think the job market will change in the next two years, maybe less. I guess I need to do some more digging as to what part of this field exacctly appeals to me. I had 3-4 years to do that for electrical engineering and I can tell it with certainty that there's absolutely next to nothing there (Digital Logic Circuits was the most fun I had to be honest, but Idk where to go from that). I should do a lot of self reflection cause I know, at the end of the day, as much as passion I might have, there's no point if I don't get job satisfaction or just be good at it.
TEUser2K1 said:
Interestingly for Japan, whether they like it or not, they are going to need lot of foreign workers to keep things running.

www.bloomberg.com

Record 2 Million Foreign Workers Are Changing the Face of Japan

As a labor shortage worsens, companies procure help from overseas
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com

www.bbc.com

Japan nappy maker shifts from babies to adults

Since 2011, sales of adult nappies have outpaced those for infants in Japan as its population ages.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

People should have to learn Japanese language which is definitely hard, deal with rough climate, routine earthquakes, harsh working conditions, not-so-hidden but hidden racism, curious culture, etc. Also, distance from India to JP will make many people think twice.
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Honestly, I was consdiering Japan but the work culture is something that's not suitable and I guess it's even worse than in India (I am not sure, don't come at me for this). I've not heard a lot of good things about Japan so I am not super sure as well, mostly just in regards to the living and all. To be fair though, Indians probably face a lot of racism and discrimination in the majority of the world, unless you're an Indian who looks like a White guy and has an accent.

hellblazer33 said:
but MS is costly how will you manage that expense?
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Looking for affordable options honestly, else I might have to look for a job in Chennai or something. Germany, Austria and the likes are cheap but ofc, language is jey whereever I go. UK is sort of maybe cheap but only if there's a scholarship. I was gonna work part time anyway.
sato1986 said:
I feel its a very personal preference to create a road map of future and manifest the things you really want in life.

Still just felt adding my 2 cents here..
I feel after gaining some experience in any field, getting into self-employment is eventually better. In India i see people growing in industries related to construction and real estate businesses.
Jobs take people to max 2-3-4-5L/month. Not more and then higher salary people are layed off 1st.
My father has a electrical business and he is also an electrical consultant. With his help all the way till date, im into Lighting business and im also a Lighting consultant.
We see architects, electrical supervisors, interior designers, professional business owners doing really well and having complete freedom of time. No boss, no convincing anyone. Just professional attitude with good hold on conversation skills and knowledge of field.
And incomes have been seen in tune of 20k-2L/project where minimum people are doing 3 projects in a month and go upto 50 projects a month. People in this industry are buying properties worth crores and then multiplying assets through selling n buying more properties. Few people even reached the level of having properties across the world, having supercars in India and still being humble and professional.
Example of such a person who has good hold on Design, materials, and tech is Aamir Sharma (insta: https://www.instagram.com/aamirsharma/?hl=en ).
As he suggests, you can explore electrical Automation, blend it with Ai, become a unique professional in that field as well. Eventually building your own brand name n brand consumer base. Hope this adds value to your thoughts.
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I kid you not,a few days before you posted this, I was Googling how to start a consultancy. I know I don't wanna work forever in a compnay and eventually start my own thing, whether that's a business or consultancy. My professor who took embedded systems for me works as a consultant for various companies on the side. Can't help but fee like maybe your message was fate. xD Can I message you?
 
FXGalvatron said:
Well, one of my purposes of pursuing a Masters is that it makes me eligible for more higher-paying jobs compared to holding only a Bachelors. I am still quite young to think about marriage and all and my parents (at least on the outside) agree with it. Of course, I would also like to visit new places, experience a btter quality of life and just try to expand my mind by meeting new people and all that.

At the end of the day, education is a tool and its usefulness is dependant on how much I leverage it, I guess.



Ah yeah. THat makes sense. But yeah, I do think the job market will change in the next two years, maybe less. I guess I need to do some more digging as to what part of this field exacctly appeals to me. I had 3-4 years to do that for electrical engineering and I can tell it with certainty that there's absolutely next to nothing there (Digital Logic Circuits was the most fun I had to be honest, but Idk where to go from that). I should do a lot of self reflection cause I know, at the end of the day, as much as passion I might have, there's no point if I don't get job satisfaction or just be good at it.

Honestly, I was consdiering Japan but the work culture is something that's not suitable and I guess it's even worse than in India (I am not sure, don't come at me for this). I've not heard a lot of good things about Japan so I am not super sure as well, mostly just in regards to the living and all. To be fair though, Indians probably face a lot of racism and discrimination in the majority of the world, unless you're an Indian who looks like a White guy and has an accent.


Looking for affordable options honestly, else I might have to look for a job in Chennai or something. Germany, Austria and the likes are cheap but ofc, language is jey whereever I go. UK is sort of maybe cheap but only if there's a scholarship. I was gonna work part time anyway.


I kid you not,a few days before you posted this, I was Googling how to start a consultancy. I know I don't wanna work forever in a compnay and eventually start my own thing, whether that's a business or consultancy. My professor who took embedded systems for me works as a consultant for various companies on the side. Can't help but fee like maybe your message was fate. xD Can I message you?
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Nice thoughts..
Sure @FXGalvatron you can ping me :)
 

Just came across this video.. Again re-iteration of fact that working under someone then A.i. might become your competitor. But if you have your own business then A.i. can be your uhmm slave...
 
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