Beware: Avast and AVG are officially snoopware!


Do you Use avast or AVG?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • No

    Votes: 17 68.0%
  • I know someone who does

    Votes: 6 24.0%

  • Total voters
    25

soulweaver

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A joint report published by Vice and PC Magazine showed that Avast collects and repackages user data collected from installs of Avast Free AV and AVG AV and sells it to some of the world's biggest companies. Once again proving that if the product is free, you are the product!

The following data has been is hoovered
  • Google searches
  • locations and GPS coordinates on Google Maps
  • People visiting companies' LinkedIn pages
  • YouTube videos visited
  • anonymous identification of those visiting porn websites
Buyers include companies like Google (no surprise), Microsoft (no surprise), Yelp among others.

Here are reports:

So, tell everyone around you who is using them to uninstall these ASAP!


Remember: Anonymous data is not really anonymous!
If you, for instance, click on a link which has your name, or visit your facebook profile, then the link is identified. The buyer will now know the identity of the person clicking the link, but how many people other than you visit your own FB home page as often as you do?
 

soulweaver

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What are the alternatives
If you are on Windows, I would say Windows Defender. I have been using this on all my windows systems (more than 15) and it does as good a job as any. If you absolutely want an alternative, you might be slightly better of Kaspersky. I am not too sure though.
 

Marcus Fenix

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I have been using Kaspersky for a long time but I still am not sure what kind of telemetry data they are pulling from my PC.

If you think about it Microsoft and AV providers can pull a masssive amount of behavioural data which can then be sold to the highest bidder.

MS woke up to the Google way and started doing it a lot in WIndows 10 but I would not be surprised if all AV providers including the paid onesare selling our data too. All in the name of highest share price.Ohh the beauties of neo capitalism.
 
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netant

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what a time to live :)
what considered as "spyware" by definition, is now a mainstream phone OS known as Android. And people still put their money in buying "antivirus". Win 10 is no different than Android, it track you in every possible manner and perfectly fits ins spyware definition.

Virus-Antivirus is a semi-fabricated industry by Microsoft in 2000's. what we have right now is just "water memory", except few rare cases.
The source of viruses are files from external sources - which now a days are internet. which is well guarded at multiple levels.

If on windows, the default shipped threat protection is more then enough , if anyone using Win 7SP1 +
Anything on top of it just a feel-good-factor.
 
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I switch off all the random "sheilds" when installing Avast. Only the Av is on. Mostly used on office machines since 4-5yrs.. If there's any free alternative might shift..
 

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What are the alternatives
I switch off all the random "sheilds" when installing Avast. Only the Av is on. Mostly used on office machines since 4-5yrs.. If there's any free alternative might shift..
Comodo Personal Firewall has been working great for me for years (used to use Kerio Personal Firewall earlier). It also has HIPS blocking and alerts and an antivirus. However, I use the firewall as it has a lot of granular control per application, and prefer to use the Windows Antivirus which works very well.
Using Comodo, till they prove they're also snooping on our data.
 

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Comodo Personal Firewall has been working great for me for years (used to use Kerio Personal Firewall earlier). It also has HIPS blocking and alerts and an antivirus. However, I use the firewall as it has a lot of granular control per application, and prefer to use the Windows Antivirus which works very well.
Using Comodo, till they prove they're also snooping on our data.
How do you know all these dont siphon data too :|
 

nRiTeCh

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Comodo Personal Firewall has been working great for me for years (used to use Kerio Personal Firewall earlier). It also has HIPS blocking and alerts and an antivirus. However, I use the firewall as it has a lot of granular control per application, and prefer to use the Windows Antivirus which works very well.
Using Comodo, till they prove they're also snooping on our data.
BTW in today's world you are already compromised right from your OS to the apps you install no matter how generic or otherwise. So in reality no company can say they don't sniff or spook in your privacy.
 

newuser990

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everything (win 10, android, google etc) is spying on you what can we do? it is impossible to keep privacy these days. :(
 

netant

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Using Comodo, till they prove they're also snooping on our data.
+1 for comodo, using CIS in my win desktop. ( tried many time to replace it with something i always came back to them).
i don't use their default setting though, i switched to proactive configuration, disabled sandbox, tweaked HIPS & firewall setting as per my need. nothing can beat comodo in terms of memory footprint.
But recent version/(S) are bugged, and i'm glad im using an old build .
 

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How do you know all these dont siphon data too :|
Kerio was a simple firewall, and one of the best, till it stopped being supported. It didn't 'send data home'.
Comodo is much more in-depth, and you're right, I don't know that it doesn't siphon data.
However, it does allow me to stop any application dialling out (including steam games, or any other application), once you set a rule.

BTW in today's world you are already compromised right from your OS to the apps you install no matter how generic or otherwise. So in reality no company can say they don't sniff or spook in your privacy.
The one good thing about Comodo is that you can stop even windows system apps from reporting back (stuff like DeviceCensus.exe etc), once you set blocking rules. I'm sure Windows has a lot of other devious ways to get around firewalls and phone home, but a lot of items can be stopped.

+1 for comodo, using CIS in my win desktop. ( tried many time to replace it with something i always came back to them).
i don't use their default setting though, i switched to proactive configuration, disabled sandbox, tweaked HIPS & firewall setting as per my need. nothing can beat comodo in terms of memory footprint.
But recent version/(S) are bugged, and i'm glad im using an old build .
I agree - it's a good thing to have. I have a proactive config with the alerts popping up on most requests. While annoying, I prefer to be notified and take manual action to allow or disallow applications from accessing the internet or any windows components.
 
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was not aware about term "snoopware"
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If you really wanna live a peaceful life just ignore everything as you already have sold yourself years back to google, ms and 100s of cos. hence stop worrying now.... You are already compromised the day you came Online!
Hope you guys are aware about some new chrome changes related to file formats..
Some chrome browser release confirmed same.. and its going to be worst for sites linking to .exe etc. kind of extensions.

mods please check.. i will report this topic
 

nRiTeCh

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was not aware about term "snoopware"
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Hope you guys are aware about some new chrome changes related to file formats..
Some chrome browser release confirmed same.. and its going to be worst for sites linking to .exe etc. kind of extensions.

mods please check.. i will report this topic
I use FF or Edge. Does that matters?
 

Rezep

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I have been using only windows 10 ltsc 1809 and defender for past 8 months now,the amount of bloatware they put into this shit is just below Xiaomi (funny since I'm typing this on my redmi note 7).