Freenode's #india could use your help - racists are taking over, just login and stand by Freenode/#india


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So this racist US based turd tried to stir up hate. Don't waste your time talking and arguing BUT WE DO need to show solidarity in the face of divisive forces.

1. Download Hexchat - install it. Or login using http://webchat.freenode.net/
2. Just idle and if you do notice something, cut and paste something sensible and brief from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa

They are trying to spread fear and the best way to counter is by studying doing productive things BUT showing/demonstrating solidarity AT THE SAME TIME - in an efficient manner.

Here are some links to what happened:

We need to be more aware that racism in the USA has now spread/infiltrated social-media.
Switch to using: vk.com
or better still stop using Facebook/Twitter - delete your accounts as a sign of protest.

My sister's name is 'Gayatri' and you will note that the racist was able to figure it out by asking his racist-buddies on social media. Don't be frightened just fight back politely and sensibly.

Russia, China and NK are also fair-skinned and are/were treated very shabbily during WW2/historically so this is a way of spreading division and fear.
 

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I am on client VPN so can't see the videos but glad to see a Eastern Front WW2 history buff here.

Check out Operation Bagration which whacked the Wehrmacht back to the Reichstag but no one knows about it as D-Day landing happened simultaneously and the western allies completely downplayed the first application of Soviet Deep Battle doctrine which completely destoyed Army Group Centre and most of its divisions.

4 out of 5 German casualties were on the Eastern Front but US and UK eat up all the credit for defeating the Nazis.
 

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Wait a sec, am a bit confused on whats going on.

- If this is some internet chatroom with a bunch of racist folks, I would ignore them completely and not bother joining the channel itself. Its probably some kids stuck in a basement.
Your time is more valuable There are better things to do in this world. Find another channel to chill.

Now, If they are intentionaly harming you or your family in any way, then its a different story.

EDIT: This is my two cents.
 

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be polite with everyone - we need the practice anyhow. (it trains the brain so we might as well avail the opportunity)
also, try to always act positively - we are our own worst enemy. He's trying to spread division by getting us to say things against the 'Brahmins' or 'Muslims' or 'Jews' - he's trying to create an illusion that you can hate.

People are mostly good and humans aren't really evil - it takes billions of years of festering to produce real evil. (the age of stars and planets) What he's doing is pushing/nudging us in that direction by trying to play one group against another. Once we start fighting and blaming each other, he'll kill us all!

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- If this is some internet chatroom with a bunch of racist folks, I would ignore them completely and not bother joining the channel itself. Its probably some kids stuck in a basement.
Your time is more valuable There are better things to do in this world. Find another channel to chill.
Now, If they are intentionaly harming you or your family in any way, then its a different story.
Freenode is a tech help channel with REALLY HELPFUL people - definitely worth joining and it consumes very little time!
There's #electronics #linux #c #asm #css #cooking #python - WITH HELPFUL PEOPLE! (lots more: #sailing #gardening)


Just by joining and idling you could learn a lot by parsing the logs your client makes. It' as good as StackOverflow or Reddit!

I'm not suggesting people get into a holy war! Just say in a small para, when such people enter: that you oppose them and why. Then just minimize it and get-on with your work. (I waste a LOT more time on Youtube and movies so..)

The purpose is to make yourself availiable so other indians can ask for help in #india and you too can ask Questions and such (in the other groups). The etiquette is to ask in a line or two and wait/idle/do something else if no answer is immediately forthcoming.
 
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Veek M

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irc? which decade are we in? :D
India cannot make a CPU so far: think of 1 billion people and you'll quickly realize it's perfect for us as a country. Eg: we could add a mechanism for selecting text and creating topic wise notes-snippets, code-samples. Encryption can be XOR that NK still uses! A low power arduino might be sufficient for text chat and the cost comes down (you just need a network stack+ADSL+1 program).

The power is in connecting EVERYONE to it
 

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@Veek M

-I know what IRC is and I am an old timer. I still use IRC. Looks like some racist/dumb guy saying some stupid stuff in IRC and you want other people in this forum to join there and comment for you? Thats more of what a 12 year old would do.

Do you really want to drag people into these conversations? No offense.

Just let it go. Why drag people into a mess? This forum is meant for talking about tech stuff and not* people looking to revolt.

Chill here if you like to talk tech. If you are looking for a mess, look elsewhere.
 
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your Post1> Wait a sec, am a bit confused
your post2 > I know what IRC is and I am an old timer.
I was responding to what you said "confused"

this is how old an 'old timer' I am on IRC: I request that you convince me with a similar screen-capture. Additionally I've spent a large fraction of that time logged into IRC/idling. Ordinary racist dumb guys cannot track your family members on Facebook

Regarding ''If you are looking for a mess, look elsewhere.' you are about my age a 'disciple' on Techenclave, so you are essentially nobody/not-an-OP to tell me how I should be posting on Techenclave SO LONG AS I don't break the rules and I didn't start a "seeking advice on howto chill thread" Cite the rule I broke - you are offtopic in my thread.
 

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What software even is that? I'm sorry but if you see a bunch of people saying stupid shit, why get yourself in trouble?
" Ordinary racist dumb guys cannot track your family members on Facebook " They won't even bother you if you had just ignored them instead of trying to be a hero.
 

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That's literally what the Jewish people said when the Nazi's took over - lol! I've been on irc for 7 years (using the same nick) - I haven't asked for 'help' in all those 7 years - this time it's different! You have this guy maj0r giving me advice - I've never seen him on IRC - wth! I live in that place! What channels does he frequent? Does he even post on freenode? I seldom see any Indians in there.. Electronics has a few .. like 1-2 is all I've encountered.
Which is why we need more people in #india
(or it'll wind up like Reddit r/*india* some political party will make speeches online in the name of ordinary indians and incite hate)
 
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i don't think most of the people on r/india will even remember/know what an irc is (aka they're not very old)
 

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That's literally what the Jewish people said when the Nazi's took over - lol! I've been on irc for 7 years (using the same nick) - I haven't asked for 'help' in all those 7 years - this time it's different! You have this guy maj0r giving me advice - I've never seen him on IRC - wth! I live in that place! What channels does he frequent? Does he even post on freenode? I seldom see any Indians in there.. Electronics has a few .. like 1-2 is all I've encountered.
Which is why we need more people in #india
(or it'll wind up like Reddit r/*india* some political party will make speeches online in the name of ordinary indians and incite hate)
How did that POS get to know the name of your family member? Do you live in India?
 

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i don't think most of the people on r/india will even remember/know what an irc is (aka they're not very old)
which is why I find the whole thing very mystifying: what do they do.. like how do they study and such? I use Freenode like a useful tool to learn things.. there are so many tips people share - I'd have thought the resource was indispensable.
Feb 29 17:24:58 <[Tritium]> {**d1, **d2} will still work, this is just adding an operator to dicts
 

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@Veek M I dont have to prove anything to you. I dont even know you. If you constantly are in the need to prove something, then its the first sign of insecurity.
If you want chase down some internet racists and drag other members with you, suit your self.

*Most people have better things to do.

Good luck!
 
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Couple of clarifications.
- Thread starter does not get to decide who should reply in the thread or how the reply should be. When you post in general talk forum, you should be ready to accept all sorts of responses, as long as they are civil.
- This thread does not serve a purpose here in TE. @Veek M If you are having an issue at freenode, bring it to the notice of the authorities/channel moderators/whoever over there. You will not find a solution for the same over here.

We don't usually close or be very strict with threads in GT, so this thread will stay open for now.
 

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1. It's not civil to suggest that someone is creating a 'mess' and leave. (civility means cOURTeOUS and polite) (courteous means: polite, respectful, or considerate in manner.)
Chill here if you like to talk tech. If you are looking for a mess, look elsewhere.

2. Are you suggesting my old aunt would understand what IRc was and how it's important to defend net neutrality?
Freenode is a public server offering eVRYONe free access to IRc. We have a duty to protect it.. and the best way is to use it!
If we don't racists will take over "india" on the net, and we'll be left speechless.. srsly, if this isn't a tech conversation I don't know what is! (it's just tech with a social issue) (it's happened in reddit)

3. (I have informed Freenode and mailed the ISP - they did nothing)
Freenode has a policy of taking no action where the OP/founder is concerned - in this case the lack of an OP. "india" is usually empty - 2-3 ppl so.. really the only way is to get more users and try to manage it better. As I keep saying this was NOT a TROLL - he knew my sisters name.

(what you MAY be actually hinting at is: you don't want controversy because it might drive your fan/regular-user-base away?) (if so, it would be easier if you just told me)
 
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