So what's the changelog for Lockdown 4.0, wrt Mumbai ?

[red dragon]

No, doctors are not normal employees. We don't get salaries like engineers.
We are free to decide our OPD timings at some point of our lives and some have profit sharing too.
We are not answerable to HR people or management. Our only commitment is our patients.
A guy who literally did 50 bronchoscopy in suspected covid patients, yet getting 40 percent cut in professional fees. If you think it's fair, fine!
I don't.
Capitalism doesn't make specialists in India, we paid nothing for our speciality or superspeciality and PhDs. In fact we get paid for that.
I'm not talking about the shitty private medical colleges like Manipal etc. Proper medical schools.
Of course if this thing continues, they will join elsewhere, the good ones will leave India. Be happy with the bottom of the barrel docs like Dr. Trehan/ Devi Shetty etc. ( with zero international rep).

 

[nRiTeCh]

the good ones will leave India. Be happy with the bottom of the barrel docs like Dr. Trehan ( with zero international rep).

This is whats happening since decades. And today as well aspiring students, professionals and job seekers prefer to seek everything abroad for these very reasons as India is still is still favoring history old casteism and the hefty tax system which is loading every year.
Modi era might bring it all except an end to biased casteism and shit which will go long as far as India is on the global map or we aren't ruled by another Englishmen once again.

@ssslayer Everyone has a reason to earn be it goon or ambani and you plan your years and future based on current and future forecast financial situation else even ambani would have lived in 1bhk or a slum owing to irregular profits and etc.
You cannot say that a doctor is a laborer, have some dignity towards different levels of people though I'm not at all saying that a labor doesn't deserve a respect but compare on some levels.
Capitalisms other side is your own state looitng your hard earned money while giving minimal or zero outputs. Then shouldn't the CM, Mla and ministers be penalised or punished, but then who has those guts to stand upfront and blame them? None as you fear for yourself an your dependent family right?

 

[red dragon]

I don't mind being called a labourer at all. But like every labour, we doctors also have certain rights ( along with million responsibilities)
Indian government already pays the lowest (a superspeciality doc earns less than 50L/year at the peak of his/ her career under central government, which in a poorer central European country's hardworking good doctor earns in 3 months!! 99 percent people working in corporate hospitals works for even less)
Now after literally risking their lives they are getting 30-40 percent cut in professional fees. How does one justify that?
I was offered 4L for 28 days of work for ICMR, when I refused straightaway, they thought I am being unreasonable!!
I had to show my IT returns to them....
Personally I spent close to 10 years after MBBS on post grad, PhD etc. Of course I'm more educated and far more experienced than some IAS secretary or similar POS...and you have to pay me more than double than those secretary types...which they did ( as it was perfectly logical)

 

[PoBoy]

Dont worry they deal only into IT and not mixed stuff like jack of all trades masters on none nonsense so they know for sure how well to pack IT stuff. Be worry free!

Prime delivery charges bit steep. Rs 350 + 35 for a PSU to Mumbai. I really needed it, so ordered. Also I won't be surprised if items slowly start going OOS.

How PrimeABGB doing packing of the product?
Please see below photos for correct and right packing, please do not accept package, if package don’t meets below criteria.

 

[ssslayer]

This is whats happening since decades. And today as well aspiring students, professionals and job seekers prefer to seek everything abroad for these very reasons

Brain drain is also a manifestation of capitalism. Do you want these people who have built up their skills to be locked to archiac rules and bureaucracy?
I think brain drain is great example of globalization at work - people moving to where they are valued.

@ssslayer Everyone has a reason to earn be it goon or ambani and you plan your years and future based on current and future forecast financial situation else even ambani would have lived in 1bhk or a slum owing to irregular profits and etc.
You cannot say that a doctor is a laborer, have some dignity towards different levels of people though I'm not at all saying that a labor doesn't deserve a respect but compare on some levels.
Capitalisms other side is your own state looitng your hard earned money while giving minimal or zero outputs. Then shouldn't the CM, Mla and ministers be penalised or punished, but then who has those guts to stand upfront and blame them? None as you fear for yourself an your dependent family right?

Did I question anyone's motive to earn? All I said is that in capitalism it is the forces of supply demand that are balanced by prices.
Manual laborer are available in plenty compared to the work available to them - hence their low price. They are free to move to cities where their labor rates are higher than villages. And many do move to abroad where the rate is still higher.

Same for the docs or any other skilled laborer. All I am saying is that laborers have a freedom to choose and move on if they are unsatisfied with the value of their work.

All this is facilitated by capitalism (free movement of goods and services to balance the forces of supply and demand). Imagine doing all this in a communist country or a fascist country or our medieval kingdoms (imperialism)?
Your definition of capitalism is invalid since it is defined with respect to the Govt.

I don't mind being called a labourer at all. But like every labour, we doctors also have certain rights ( along with million responsibilities)
Indian government already pays the lowest (a superspeciality doc earns less than 50L/year at the peak of his/ her career under central government, which in a poorer central European country's hardworking good doctor earns in 3 months!! 99 percent people working in corporate hospitals works for even less)
Now after literally risking their lives they are getting 30-40 percent cut in professional fees. How does one justify that?

Is anyone forcing these graduate docs at gunpoint to join govt hospital and received substandard pay?
Regarding the point about pay-cut, if most docs decide to quit such hospitals - will the hospitals survive?

I was offered 4L for 28 days of work for ICMR, when I refused straightaway, they thought I am being unreasonable!!
I had to show my IT returns to them....
Personally I spent close to 10 years after MBBS on post grad, PhD etc. Of course I'm more educated and far more experienced than some IAS secretary or similar POS...and you have to pay me more than double than those secretary types...which they did ( as it was perfectly logical)

The pay that you receive is not for the skill, but for the rarity of the skill compared to its demand.

 

[red dragon]

No sir, there are more than 10000 MDs in community medicine. But none of them has a single successful containment plan which has worked in the past and/ or published anywhere.
I have 5 major and 18 micro plans which were successful in viral epidemics and was reported in indexed journals.
I don't know, if that's not an acquired skill, what is.
Every CM post grad knows how to plan ( it was the major part of 3rd paper in MD finals) but they have never used in practical life.
Yes, docs working in those setups have no other options. As Indian public still think grey haired doctors are more efficient and knowledgeable than the young ones and most of those 70 plus docs are suffering from dementia themselves, they are treating dementia patients.
For example Dr.Sukumar Mukherjee in Kolkata, doesn't remember the difference between donepezil and memantine, yet he will remain the authority till he dies ( which will save hundreds of lives)
We left the country because of this absolutely ridiculous mentality of common man, stinky corporate culture, piss poor pay scale and general lack of knowledge of the patients ( who still think MD is bigger degree than DM/ PhD )
The biggest problem of India is people's strange obsession with MRCP/ MRCS (FRCS is fake now)
Most MRCPs working in India are UK rejects ( imagine how bad the doc is to get kicked out of NHS) these were the registrars in NHS charity hospitals, and absolutely garbage quality students.
Trust your locally produced MBBS doctors for minor ailments, until they refer you to some specialist.
MRCP is not a speciality, it's just a membership with very poor screening tests. Our MD exams are far more difficult. MBBS is the most difficult thing to pass in single attempt.
MCI knows it very well, but they won't do anything, as MRCP guys pay the highest to update their registration. MDs, MBBS don't care.
Please understand MBBS+ 1 Year of house staffship = MD in developed countries
Trust your local humble MBBS doctors and avoid those MRCP " specialists"..they are the worst of both worlds.
Few insider tips:
1. Avoid doctors who doesn't disclose the college fro where MBBS was done ( probably a private college)
2. Only MRCP, no CCST ( meaning kicked out of NHS)
3. Illegible handwriting ( meaning doesn't know the spelling of the medicines)
4.No history or d/ds in prescription- has no idea what's going on ( only treating symptomatically)
5. Blaming gas/ dyspepsia for everything
6. Not looking at CT/ USG/ MR films/ EKG tracings, only reading the last part of the reports ( doesn't know how to read a test which was prescribed by himself/ herself)
7. Not treating the human, just his various systems ( CVS/ CNS etc.) Meaning doesn't know the physiology properly.
8. Not checking your nails, not asking about family history, dug allergies
9.Spending more time on writing not thinking or checking computer/ phone ( nothing is wrong in checking textbooks)

 

[PoBoy]

Prime delivery charges bit steep. Rs 350 + 35 for a PSU to Mumbai. I really needed it, so ordered. Also I won't be surprised if items slowly start going OOS.

Just received the PSU. Taking into account the lockdown and staff shortage, commendable. Packing was good.