You may get 3 yrs in jail, Rs 3 lakhs fine for downloading copyrighted content

Probably the guy who put up this blockage scheme and specially the blocking page with the warning doesn't know what it means! They are actually trying to threaten probably 50% of the internet users! And so it seems, nearly all the jails will get filled in quickly! :tearsofjoy: Jail Bharo Andolan!


haha correct we can call it the second independence fight. Hope they improved the food at jails now :D
 
Saw this in section 63:
Provided that 3[where the infringement has not been made for gain in the course of trade or business] the court may, for adequate and special reasons to be mentioned in the judgment, impose a sentence of imprisonment for a term of less than six months or a fine of less than fifty thousand rupees.]
 
If this Act is Strictly enforced both Downloaders and Most Hindi Movie Producers (due to plagiarism charges) will be behind the bars.

We saw this coming isn't it? When HD copy of Udta Punjab was available for download even before release & Sultan 2016 (Bhai has a very good connection with lawyers and Judges in General [emoji12] ) within 2 days of release it was evident that some strict measures will be adopted. Crackdown of popular Torrent Sites, was just beginning (RIP p2p sharing).

Or is it possibly related to introduction of Netflix in India??
 
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Thanks for this link. This is something sane about this whole issue, and clears a lot of the doubts.

Blame it on media to screw things up, by writing things up without proper details.:mad:

I always thought that there was something not right with the article. It was really ridiculous to suggest that just by viewing a blocked URL, you would get punishment.

BTW, what's this new stupidity of news site to block content if you are using an ad-blocker? This is ridiculous too. :mad:
 
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I realised that, and skipped the site. NDTV - you were on my craplist anyways, with that iDiot who hosts Cell Guru or whatever tech show.

I turned off my adblocker temporarily to read the article.

I find NDTV to be a lot better than other news channels, which rely mostly on sensationalism of news, such as in this thread. But, NDTV's article clears it up quite well. It's definitely worth a read to clear things up caused by the stupid journalism of India Today.
 
how are they going to implement it?
how would they prove that the content being downloaded by a user is hosted in blocked website?
since the websites are blocked. so users can't access it directly. so how are they going to monitor how users are accessing those websites?
 
So, there's more to this than what the messaging would have us believe.

Read as is, it would imply we'll be punished for just viewing the website hosting the torrent.
 
Recent reports in the media - there were dozens in the last 24 hours - have suggested that visiting a blocked website could leave you facing a fine of Rs. 3 lakh, or even land you in jail. Before you start worrying that you're going to jail for that time you used a proxy site or a VPN to open a torrent site, here's what you need to know.

"Visiting any website, even if it is a blocked site is not illegal either under the provisions of the Copyright Act,1957 or the Information Technology Act, 2000," says Prasanth Sugathan, Counsel at the Software Freedom Law Centre India, a registered society that works on the intersections of law and technology. "The only exception could be if a person views child pornography."

So what prompted the reports? Certain websites are being blocked under the John Doe orders from a court to prevent copyright infringement. That is a law just about every Indian film studio leans on around the time of major releases is well known so we won't rehash the details, but an order from the Bombay High Court, reported four days ago by IP law publication SpicyIP, deals with an application on behalf of the film Dishoom.

The court ruled in the case that instead of the standard message that simply says the website is being blocked, ISPs should deliver a special message with information about the provisions of the copyright act, and the order in question, with the suit number.

This would have the effect of allowing people to look up why a page was being blocked - if pages are being indiscriminately blocked because a movie studio wants to do so, shouldn't the people be aware of the reason for the block?

However, Tata responded to the court that this individual messaging would not be technologically feasible. The court notes that it did not see why the order was technologically unfeasible, and that Tata was the only ISP to say so. As a result of this pushback, in point 4 of the order, the court agreed to a compromise with Tata, with the message that was seen and led to the media reports. Point 5 of the order gives us the text of the warning Tata is displaying - which the court ordered only for Tata. This also explains why none of the other ISPs are displaying this message.

This URL has been blocked under the instructions of the Competent Government Authority or in compliance with the orders of a Court of competent jurisdiction. Viewing, downloading, exhibiting or duplicating an illicit copy of the contents under this URL is punishable as an offence under the laws of India, including but not limited to under Sections 63, 63-A, 65 and 65-A of the Copyright Act, 1957 which prescribe imprisonment for 3 years and also fine of upto Rs. 3,00,000/-. Any person aggrieved by any such blocking of this URL may contact at urlblock@tatacommunications.com who will, within 48 hours, provide you the details of relevant proceedings under which you can approach the relevant High Court or Authority for redressal of your grievance.

With the context in mind, if we look at the message again, you can see that the warning is about illegal viewing of the copyrighted materials - simply viewing the URL where the pirated content is hosted will not send you to jail. With that said, could you go to jail for downloading a movie? Yes, possibly. It's worth noting that there's no new law or ruling that's at play here - it's a standard warning about piracy, under rules that have been around for a long time now.

"Torrent sites are often used to share free and open source software and literary and artistic work licensed under Creative Commons licenses," Sugathan adds.

You won't go to jail simply for visiting Palika Bazaar, and you won't go to jail just for finding a way to view extratorrent. Actually downloading/ streaming something is a different matter - but that's been illegal in India for a long time now, though it's a law that's rarely, if ever, enforced.

Attached the entire news for the purposes of debating.

I think I stand corrected. I still dont see anything cleared up except why the case was filed in the first place. Each person can have their interpretation of the law. Does this mean that my IP address and details will not be captured, as the earlier messages have claimed?

Secondly, the tactic is used similar to the bigger companies - they do not act against smaller fish, they have bigger fish to fry. But they want to try to scare and intimidate all.

And NDTV, thanks for the link to SpicyIP, got a link to the Tata Sky case, which I feel is worth reading. http://spicyip.com/2016/08/tatasky-v-youtube-fuzzy-signals-on-the-protection-of-tpms.html
 
Here is another article on Rediff similar to the one on NDTV, clearing it up that merely visiting the blocked URL won't get you into trouble, which India Today has somehow interpreted incorrectly.

http://www.rediff.com/business/repo...d-to-prison-term--rs-3-lakh-fine/20160823.htm

Also, the message is being shown on Tata's network, and some media reports claim that this is being done in order to prevent the piracy of movie Dishoom.

As Rediff article says, there have been no instances of individuals being prosecuted for piracy... but yes, this may change, if the government decides to act, and makes examples out of some people.

The law against piracy and copyright infringement is already there, but this recent message on websites, and misinterpretation of that message by some news reports is causing the furore.

The message is supposed to scare, and it seems to be doing its job well it seems.
 
A big full page article about this was in Dainik Bhaskar hindi version today too. In one of the headlines, they too misinterpret it, that if you visit the blocked URL, then you are in trouble.

But, in another column of the article, they say that if you somehow access the blocked URL, by some means, even after reading the warning, then you will be in trouble.

So, essentially, I think what they mean is, visiting the blocked URL, and reading the message won't get you into trouble... but, if you read the message, and even then accessed the site somehow by any means, then you might be in trouble, since you are accessing a blocked site.

But, this can be done by proxy, or VPN... so how are they going to determine the real IP?
 
I think not sure of the exact term but when you counter something there are more people that will want to check out what is there when you tell them don't do it, and with the plethora of proxies I think this would fail, just my 2 cents
 
^ There have been 1-2 cases of people getting caught for movie piracy. But these have contributed to both online and offline piracy, with the latter being much more.
 
Mostly in European countries they have strict laws on uploading to P2P and downloading especially in Germany. Even if you download for 2 mins you get a notice to pay a fine of 800 to 1000 euros. Maybe here in India they are trying to emulate the same but with the population and the stress that would bring upon the court is unimaginable and would definitely not work out.
 
Adding to this when we were kids all my brothers, sisters and my parents used to visit the theatres and spend Rs.400 for the whole family with snacks and enjoy the movie. Now with multiplex just imagine the parking charges in weekends. I once paid Rs.400 as parking charges for 3 and half hours in a mall and add to that the ticket charges and refreshments charged is simply daylight robbery. So definitely someone would download a good quality movie through torrent and watch it in HT with big LED screen or projector. The government does not step in to regulate the ticket price, parking charges and refreshment charges in the malls but instead they want punish the common man for downloading from the torrent.
 
Adding to this when we were kids all my brothers, sisters and my parents used to visit the theatres and spend Rs.400 for the whole family with snacks and enjoy the movie. Now with multiplex just imagine the parking charges in weekends. I once paid Rs.400 as parking charges for 3 and half hours in a mall and add to that the ticket charges and refreshments charged is simply daylight robbery. So definitely someone would download a good quality movie through torrent and watch it in HT with big LED screen or projector. The government does not step in to regulate the ticket price, parking charges and refreshment charges in the malls but instead they want punish the common man for downloading from the torrent.

I would not subscribe to the idea of downloading the torrent, but rather, the movie studios are not releasing the movie on Google Play/iTunes/Netflix or other sources, leading to the common man downloading via torrents, and since thats a loss to the movie studios, they are screwing us by taking the govt/courts to screw us over.

The studios should understand that piracy never really goes away - since students mainly would not want to spend so much. Rather, plug the holes by giving us alternative sources and make them as low as 100-150 rentals with 3 days watch or something similar. This would allow a family or a group of friends to join to watch a movie, in the comfort of their home or residence.

With Jio coming out with high speed internet to the masses, we should be able to stream vs download!
 
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