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I am posting this jus cuz @ab502ab insisted tht I do since we exchanged numbers when the plan to visit the dealer was made... I really didnt wanna be a part of this whole thing before... after looking at the way daredvil has been insulting everyone...
Anyway.. ya i did go with ab502ab to chk out the stuff since i had bought a lot of bottles from rivunited.. i can confirm everythin tht ab502ab said
 
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Don't want to start a new issue, but My Bleu de Chanel was delivered a few minutes back and here's the same declaration from the mysterious Atul Gupta again :yawn:
Courier service was Overnite. The package is still not opened, will do so at leisure and update here.

 

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Not commenting on the authenticity of the perfumes here, but showstopper is a close friend of mine. I can vouch that his account is legit.

Thanks mate . Just recovered my account :)

@ Rivunited ...i dont need to create fake accounts to make posts here . I was a very active member here and on many other forums with same nick and people who have traded with me know me , you can check my iTrader to confirm the same .

And i'm a pretty active member on base notes forums and having a personal collection of over 60 designer colognes and few niches , so i know what i am speaking of when i make the statements .

I am requesting only one thing , if people are saying the dealer is genuine , its authentic etc...why are you people so reluctant to add a description " All are 100 % original , genuine colognes ( some being tester bottles doesnt mean the colognes arent genuine ). The so called dealers still do not have the guts to do so , because they are sure its not authentic .


Most of the people who may have given positive reviews are starters or first timers . To all the people here new to colognes , I advice you, DONT ever buy from ebay india dealers . You will find colognes like Giorgio Armani Aqua di gio 100ml selling for 1400, Hugo boss dark blue selling for 1200 or 1500 rs etc , Ralph Lauren polo explorer selling for 1400 rs etc . Why most of the people get deceived is , those dealers on ebay will be having 99.5 or 100 % trading rating , and people assume its original . I can tell you that ALLLL the perfume deals you find on ebay India ( some dealers even having 100 % ratings ) ....they are all fake . They are diluted versions . A first timer will be satisfied with the buy , he will be happy with 2-3 hours longevity and average sillage . Most of them just think "oh it smells good ...the function is just 2 hours long, this is more than enough !!" . Well it would be crap VFM in the future.

I have bought bvlgari Aqua Pour homme for 1400 rs from ebay dealer having more than 400 deals and 100 % rating , and an Aqua di gio for 1300rs from the same dealer . They will smell the same , with lesser sillage ( project) and POOOR longevity . Later i bought a 50Ml Aqua di gio from US and i could understand the difference . I am someone who has bought Boucheron Jaipur EDP 10ML(an awesome niche) for 800rs , at the same time an Aqua di gio 100mL was selling on ebay india for 1300 rs . Since i had an experience already with ebay deal I went with the boucheron and i dont regret it lol.

LoL and for starters , funny but one easy way to understand fake bottles is ...keep it on a table and just push it down to the ground . Original BOTTLES are sooo sturdy that they WILL NEVER EVER break easily ....while a fake one easily goes apart into pieces..Imitations are still imitations:) its more like similar to you go to a local mens dress shop to buy tshirts and jeans..and they have armani exchange and calvin klein shirts for below 300 rs , and Versace jeans for under 100rs when Authentic versions will cost you above 3k the least


Instead of buying fake bottles from Indian online dealers , what i did was , i started buying colognes from basenotes forum sellers .

For example if a CD Dior homme 50ML actually costs 3000rs , you use 20ML out of it , and 30Ml remains . You sell the 30ML remaining version for say around 1800 or something like that . Its still value for money and you get to discover a lot of fragrances . Many people do not know to use EDTS and just spray all over their body like deodorant . For a 125ML bottle if you use 4 sprays a day , the 125ML would last more than 300 days ( almost an year ) ..

Not related to the topic , but simply sharing a few snaps of my personal collection ( cologne addict:] ) http://postimage.org/gallery/hachuy2/446dbc41/
 
I am posting this jus cuz @ab502ab insisted tht I do since we exchanged numbers when the plan to visit the dealer was made... I really didnt wanna be a part of this whole thing before... after looking at the way daredvil has been insulting everyone...
Anyway.. ya i did go with ab502ab to chk out the stuff since i had bought a lot of bottles from rivunited.. i can confirm everythin tht ab502ab said

Hi,

Welcome to TE.when did i insult your mates :angel: .Btw i did a google search of your ID-go_charlie88 - Google Search:23:
 
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This is for all the user who really want to know the truth If you have any question please ask me but DONT SPAM MY POST because i drove bloody 2 hrs (oneway) to get to the dealer's godown and also have wasted my time in doing some research.

We all appreciate your effort.

1. My first point to all the member RIVUNITED DOESNT BUY PERFUMES FROM MR. ATUL GUPTA OR MR. AJIT GUPTA and i dont know how the hell the packages had their name (may be they are magician) but i dont care because rivunited doesnt even buy perfumes from the dealer he works on commission basis where he get some amount per bottle.

Two things which are out of any sort of speculation and are cold hard facts as of now -
1. A lot of members have received packages which have the name and phone number of Atul Gupta. Where they come from, who puts them there, is till unclear, but it is a fact that they are coming with this mans name written on them and he is suposed to be some sort of perfume dealer.
2. Rivunited had earlier claimed that he was doing all this for no profit of his own. Your discovery proves that he has lied to all of us at least on this point. This leaves doubt for future references and maybe he is still lying to us all.

2. The dealer is a WHOLE SELLER and is not interested in opening his own shop.

This is what happened when we went to his godown we were shocked to see that he's not a dealer only for perfumes but he deals in lot of imported stuff like Branded jeans, shoes, shirts, T-shirts, designer expensive pens, wallets,ladies bags, zippos etc. etc. the dealer is verywell aware that riv united is selling his products on T.E and also on some other site ( rivunited did'nt wanted me to mention because of the mess here, rivunited told me that he started selling on that other site few days before he started selling here and its going well.

we tested around 10 different bottles and found it to be okay( may be i dont know to test orignal perfumes) but they were pretty okay.

When you yourself say that you dont know how to test originals(Perfumes), then what is the whole point of you going and testing perfumes? A big godown with all sorts of imported stuff doesnt mean squat! If you visit Gaffar Market in New Delhi, you will come across scores of shops which sell fake goods, which are very close to the originals in look and feel. Here you can take your pick out of Nike Shox, Adidas Barricade and Cat Steeltoes etc for 1500 bux. All are made in nepal but are labeled as made in china,vietnam or wherever the original product comes from. Same is the case with clothes. Excellent copies of branded clothes made in thailand, all at a fraction of the cost of the originals. Not to mention Fake watches too. based on our experience with his fake perfumes, It is possible that Rivunited's dealer is also into the same business as the shopkeepers from gaffar market.


1.Rivunited is 100 PERCENT HONEST AND INNOCENT. rivunited himself didnt had so much information about the dealer unitl we met the dealer together. He is just a college kid trying to make some pocket money in a FAIR WAY. we all had options of buying sealed boxed perfume but everyone wanted to take a chance with the tester and check it.

He is not at all honest, in fact quite the opposite. He had written many times on the forum that he has been buying from this dealer for ages and now and wanted the members at TE to take some benefit of his dealers excellent prices. Acting all holier than thou, faking an act of charity all along. As a matter of fact, your findings have taken the mask of his little charade! For all we know, he has duped us all, sold us fake goods and is laughing all the way to the bank.


May be they have some personal grudges against him or they cant see him doing so good here at T.E or whatever.

hmmmmm...why would anybody have any grudges against him....lets see he only - lied to us, took our money and gave us a fake product!

Or reactions are not grudges, its a basic reaction which a person gives, when he or she is duped. At least we dont want other people to loose thier hard earned money like we did.

The best thing Rivunited could do was to offer us the FULL REFUND if we were not satisfied with the product. So i dont understand why blame him for evrything.

Firstly since he is getting commission on the goods he sells, he should refund all those who wish first and then ask back for his fake perfumes. Secondly not all of us have the time to pack and ship the goods back to him and thirdly it is a tad difficult now to trust him again after all he has lied and duped us.


This dealer is something and he also wanted to sell branded shoes, jeans thru rivunited on T.E. And i can bet my life on it that they were orignal, packed in orignal company plactic with proper tags. All the member on T.E across India would have benifited from this deals. ( even though he only sell bulk pieces i managed to get 2 jeans for myself). But thanks to some oversmart members who kept on speculating informations and were determine to prove rivunited wrong.

Sure a lot of members would love to wear fake clothes and smell of fake perfumes. My my, we oversmart members just saved them their hard earned money!!!!


More than 100 members have purcased perfume bottles from Rivunited but only few of them have problems and rivunited is willingly giving them their refund. But still they have a problem i dont understand the reason.
IS THERE ANY MEMBER ON T.E WHO HAS HAD BAD EXPRIENCE DEALING WITH RIVUNITED IN TERMS OF REFUND OR EXCHANGE PLEASE SHARE.
I think MODS should step in now stop members from posting who has got nothing to do with this thread or who has already recieved their refund. Every one knows that there are only few members who instigated this and daredevil man ITS TOO OBVISOUS NOW STOP ADVERSTISING FOR MR. ATUL GUPTA.

daredvil is not advertising for Atul Gupta, he is trying to open your eyes to this guy selling fakes! The point he and others like him are making is that, dont buy these perfumes if are looking for originals, in case you dont mind fakes, you can get it cheaper elsewhere.


Rivunited has manage to find a dealer who directly get his goods from the docks. Otherwise from the docks it goes to the distributor, then to retailer, so the final product when it reaches us is obvisoulsy more expensive. In near future GO could have been the best thread on T.E where members across the India could have managed to get not only perfumes and many other stuff at a rate impossible to get at a retailer.
Ahem, FAKE STUFF!!!


TESTERS DO NOT COME WITH CAP generally nozzle is covered with a round plastic or paper. So i always knew these are not the proper tester and that is the reason i dint participate in GO1. but looking at everyone comment i was forced to try few perfumes in 2nd GO and i was satisfied and happy. I dont care instead of 12 hrs it only last 6 hrs ( my 2 bottles was absoutely fine but some member had prob with longivety) but these are not FAKE and for the price am paying it saved me some money, am very happy and will continue to buy from Rivunited.
MODS there in no way Rivunited should be ban. its pretty clear now some members dont have a problem with the product but with rivunited and thts why even after hey got their refund they still choose to spam the thread.
Please continue Rivunited This is GR8!!!

No offence, but, you have contradicted yourself. You had some doubts on the tester bottles and agree that some members have had problems with longevity. maybe you have not used original perfumes long enough to know that the smell differs by a lot too. Maybe you are fine by buying these fakes at cheap rates but for many like me, this perfume is as good as catpiss.

Also if a member goes through a bad experience with another member selling goods on the forum, its always better for the forum if he shares his experience, even if he has gotten his refund. At least a lot of people will be prevented from getting duped and have their share of anxiety.
 
It is possible that Rivunited's dealer is also into the same business as the shopkeepers from gaffar market

Hahaa this is exactly what i am speaking of . AND who the hell cares if he has lots of jeans and shirts at his warehouse or not , none really cares . People are only bothered about the colognes and the trust they put in for the deal.

He claims that "he is a wholesaler" and doesnt need to do retail business .

LoL...dude i am telling you , authentic designer colognes at this price.....if you start your store in malls like Forum ( bangalore)...you will get 10 x times more than your wholesale business . Customers will be all around you . You can become the next Ambani . But mate when you run shop in such big shopping malls with stores like shoppersstop and sephoras around you , they come to know you are selling fake versions , its not just like online refunds ( you paid 1k , i refund you 1k ) ..it will be like you invested 10 Lakhs , you get sued for 1 crore for mistrust and malpractice.
I totally agree with you Zero Cool this kind of reminds me like...you get Dolce Gabbana T shirts for 150 rupees in local stalls while original sells for more than 2000rs lol.


And Please i do not mean to offend anyone..i follow this principle of criticism " Attack the Point , and not the Person"
 
Hahaa this is exactly what i am speaking of . AND who the hell cares if he has lots of jeans and shirts at his warehouse or not , none really cares . People are only bothered about the colognes and the trust they put in for the deal.

He claims that "he is a wholesaler" and doesnt need to do retail business .

LoL...dude i am telling you , authentic designer colognes at this price.....if you start your store in malls like Forum ( bangalore)...you will get 10 x times more than your wholesale business . Customers will be all around you . You can become the next Ambani . But mate when you run shop in such big shopping malls with stores like shoppersstop and sephoras around you , they come to know you are selling fake versions , its not just like online refunds ( you paid 1k , i refund you 1k ) ..it will be like you invested 10 Lakhs , you get sued for 1 crore for mistrust and malpractice.
I totally agree with you Zero Cool this kind of reminds me like...you get Dolce Gabbana T shirts for 150 rupees in local stalls while original sells for more than 2000rs lol.


And Please i do not mean to offend anyone..i follow this principle of criticism " Attack the Point , and not the Person"

But rivunited says dealer is official dealer at shoppers stop mumbai.So now he has become wholeseller :23:

Thank you for your concern, That is completely safe buddy.. As the dealer we all order perfumes from has the required license since he is also the official dealer for ShoppersStop in mumbai. :)
Nothing to worry about for consumers since this is a Group Order. We are Group Ordering the perfumes so that we all can get a very good price from the dealer. Even I have purchased many bottles during the GO period for my personal use.
Nice to see forum members care for the safety reason. But its no issue at all in this case. ;)

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Sent you PM.
 
Not commenting on the authenticity of the perfumes here, but showstopper is a close friend of mine. I can vouch that his account is legit.

Isnt showstopper/xtr pwnor adarsh from tvm??? If so yes... I guess I sold my first X360 to him like 4 years back. So yea I can also vouch for him.

That perfume pic of his made me thinking, think he posted similar pic sometime somewhere..here or in E. forgot.
 
But rivunited says dealer is official dealer at shoppers stop mumbai.So now he has become wholeseller :23:

@ Daredevil...bro..afaik shoppersstop is a retail chain and they have franchisees too , which means that regardless of who runs the franchisee , the products / supply follows a uniform standard /quality throughout all of its retail outlets . So the shoppersstop "mumbai" has no relevance here .

And now that you brought forward that statement made by him , doesnt it become even more easier now:)...if you know the name of the dealer and his location , just drop in a mail to shoppersstop enquiring about whether they are doing business with such a dealer .They surely will give you a reply within a days time :)


@mJeRi ...yes bro the same Adarsh who bought your xbox360 and shitload of games :D...pretty longtime huh:) ..left gaming man...sold the x360 to a cafe guy:)
 
Yup... been very very long time.. :(..

I guess there was some thread in some forum u mentioned the perfume bottle things... like XX ml used and get the rest... So thght it had to be u.. :D
 
@ Daredevil...bro..afaik shoppersstop is a retail chain and they have franchisees too , which means that regardless of who runs the franchisee , the products / supply follows a uniform standard /quality throughout all of its retail outlets . So the shoppersstop "mumbai" has no relevance here .

And now that you brought forward that statement made by him , doesnt it become even more easier now:)...if you know the name of the dealer and his location , just drop in a mail to shoppersstop enquiring about whether they are doing business with such a dealer .They surely will give you a reply within a days time :)


@mJeRi ...yes bro the same Adarsh who bought your xbox360 and shitload of games :D...pretty longtime huh:) ..left gaming man...sold the x360 to a cafe guy:)

Thanks bro for the pm,Actually we do not know the name or add of the dealer .if you read the thread then you will know Our packages have one name sent from atul gupta and his phone no ,This guy atulgupta turned out to be an ebay dealer of perfumes and also sells on future bazar and sells fakes as noted by other memebers.But rivunited is denying he sent the packages.Also i am not from mumbai.
 
Seems that there is no amicable solution in sight. What we understand (we mods have been following this thread closely ever since issues started to crop up) is this:

1. OP is conducting a GO from a dealer he knows. However, there is no way to verify the authenticity of the products on sale.

2. OP claims he has no contacts or communications with the ebay sellers who have been brought to light by certain members.
3. It is still a mystery as to how the ebay sellers names are seen in sent address on the packages.
4. Some members feel the OP has cheated others by selling fakes, claiming them to be original testers.
5. The OP has not created problems in refunding, if someone wants to return his stuff. However, OP has been making some amount as commission through the deals
6. A couple of members have taken the pains to verify the dealer details, and have posted a detailed response here. However, the authenticity of the perfumes is still doubtful.

Based on these, we have decided to do the following:
1. There will be no further GOs from the OP.
2. Members who feel they have been cheated can contact the OP, and request for refunds. I believe the OP will not have any issue with this, since he has already posted quite a few times that there will be a money-back guarantee. Please contact the market section mods if there is any issue in processing refunds.


Ideally, GOs were not meant for personal profit, and there have been several instances in TE where GOs only meant the best deals for members without any personal benefit for the initiator. However, we do understand that it is impossible to organize GOs expecting nothing in return. We would appreciate if members who initiate GOs, also put in a small note whether they are taking a small fee as "convenience charges" or whatever you may call it. If not for anything else, at least to show that you are honest in your intentions.

Note:
- Points 2 & 3 are still being verified.
- Barring the OP and members who want a refund, no one else will be allowed to make posts in this thread any more, unless they are very keen on accumulating some infractions. You have been warned.
 
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Don't want to start a new issue, but My Bleu de Chanel was delivered a few minutes back and here's the same declaration from the mysterious Atul Gupta again :yawn:
Courier service was Overnite. The package is still not opened, will do so at leisure and update here.

Here's the update on the Bleu de Chanel, opened it a couple of hours back and checked it against the video which was posted a few pages back, I'm afraid it matches the fake one more.
Sprayed it on the wrist and it shot a strong surgical spirit smell at me inducing a mild headache, left it for an hour or so and checked again, I can smell mild fragrance but still the spirit smell is dominating.
Sent a mail to @Rivunited since he is not active here for the past couple of days, I'll be shipping it back tomorrow and hopefully get the refund soon.
I'll double check the other Chanel Allure I gifted, though asking it back would be embarrassing.
Bottom-line is.. I should blame myself :|

Sorry mods for posting this. But I had to. This would be my last post here unless the events turn otherwise.
 
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Even I've sent a PM to rivunited regarding the refund. I'll be returning 3 bottles as listed below:- (Unfortunately the cap of the 4th bottles is broken because of a fall and I've decided to keep it. Serves me as a lesson for my blind faith that i showed in this deal)

Armani Acqua Di Gio -100 ml - 1800 rs
Hugo Boss Deep Red (W) (90ml) – 1700rs
Terre d'Hermes by [FONT=Segoe UI, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]HERMES (100ml) - 2300rs[/FONT]

[FONT=Segoe UI, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Total comes to - Rs. 5800[/FONT]

[FONT=Segoe UI, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rivunited should be transferring amount [/FONT][FONT=Segoe UI, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]totaling[/FONT][FONT=Segoe UI, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] to 5800 back to my account. I'll ship the bottles this weekend and provide tracking number to rivunited.[/FONT]
 
Please refrain from any further OT discussions. Infractions will be doled out instantly!

Perfume related discussions can happen in a separate thread.
 
OMG!!!, after a long time i am seeing this whole new twist to this great thread. i thought i am a happy customer of GO.
even my package has Mr.Atul Gupta with 098........ , Mumbai tag at the sender address written on it.
i didnt know these different notes & longevity , penetrance of an original perfumes....
my fellow mates ave researched so much about it in the last 10 pages.
now i feel very much disheartened & cheated. i was innocent & totally believed on rivunited. My friend who has some knowledge has given me back ADG for me only not for returning, but he gifted it to me which i bought it for him... that time i didnt realise why, but, now i feel like he must have realised that it is a FAKE. hence instead of telling it to me, he gifted it without teling me a single word. that is what worrying me a lot. i did the cheapest thing by forcing him to buy just because he is so fond of perfumes....

i would like to know the address where the perfume bottles are to be returned & how soon we get the refund once we return the goods...
pls rivunited, update us on these details, atleast make this process as smooth as possible, so that we wont feel much bitterness about the very first thought of getting cheated so nicely... i feel ashamed about myself that i believed so innocently.... you exploited my ignorance in this field.
waiting for your reply.... as soon as u reply to my msg, i will send you my bank details.... pls refund , i will return your perfume bottles....
thanks daredevil for opening my eyes....
 
Rivunited don't just go awol now. Forget tracking no, has my perfume even been shipped ?

On 1st Oct you pm'ed me this :
I am still extremely sorry for the delay, Next time I will make sure things go smoothly.
Tomorrow is Gandhi Jayanti I think so it is a public holiday. Day after tomorrow first thing in the morning the J'adore will be shipped to you. You will receive it approximately after 2days of shipping. Once again I highly regret the hold up.

Regards,

Riv

Its 9th Oct now and I'm still waiting....
 
where is the OP ? is ur exams over buddy ? r u ready to respond to all these allegations here ?we are all worried. pls reply
 
where is the OP ? is ur exams over buddy ? r u ready to respond to all these allegations here ?we are all worried. pls reply

Are you personally waiting for a response from the OP? As in a refund or regarding the shipment of a package? If not, please refrain from posting here.

I had sent him a PM sometime last week and he did respond back on the 6th which was unfortunately the last time he was active on the forums. It appears he has some exams going on right now and may be busy. But being an old member of the forums, he wouldn't cheat any one. Those who aren't content with the bottles, shall get a refund as promised by the OP - please give him some more time.
 
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