Adobe Cancelation Fee Sees Twitter Users Backing Pirated Software
The creative software firm is facing sharp criticism after a post about its steep cancelation fees went viral.
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AINDRASIS_GUPTA
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For a long time now, Adobe has strong-holded the creative space for professionals. Adobe is a pure shady company not only because of the practices they perform (such as this) but also their bogus, bloated software line-up. It's for the same reason Steve Jobs boycotted the pathetic Adobe Flash to implement on Apple devices.
That's why smart professionals move to Mac OS for better creative software which you only pay for once and you own it for your lifetime. And that's how creative softwares should be (even Adobe used to follow a similar model in the past).
It's time people boycott using subscription services for creative software.
That's why smart professionals move to Mac OS for better creative software which you only pay for once and you own it for your lifetime. And that's how creative softwares should be (even Adobe used to follow a similar model in the past).
It's time people boycott using subscription services for creative software.
I am not in favour of subscription based services for softwares but I don't understand the outrage here. The user opted for an annual subscription plan (paid monthly) which has lesser price than a monthly subscription so it is obvious that a user cannot cancel it after a few months while enjoying a discounted price. He should have gone for a monthly plan if he wanted to use it for a few months only. Moreover it is clearly written in the subscription and cancellation terms on the payment page that a cancellation fee will be charged if you cancel after 14 days. Adobe cc also waived off his cancellation charges. What else this guy wants?
Adobe's mistake seems to be to allow monthly payments for an annual subscription. They should charge the amount upfront. These users are trying to act smart by opting for the lower monthly payments in an annual subscription compared to a monthly subscription and then trying to wriggle out of it.
However, at the end of the day, subscription has become a huge bane. Affinity and Resolve can handle most use cases if you are not looking for familiarity and can do with lesser plugins.
It's very easy to say that there are alternatives ( Affinity / Resolve etc. as mentioned) but extremely difficult to master them very rapidly ( specially DaVinci Resolve)
A professional photographer/ videographer is almost always under tremendous time constraints.
It's not the PS that's problematic to replace, but rather the LR. I know of 2 professional photographers ( one strictly wildlife, another in wedding and portrait photography) who moved to Capture One, the migration experience was difficult to say the least.
LR's library management is very different from Capture One ( where you can have both catalogue/ library and sessions)
Though Capture One supports PSD files, and exporting LR library seems very easy on papers, it can get really messy and there's a high chance of DB getting corrupted ( not a big deal for photography enthusiast, as you're not loosing any of your files, but for a professional who has TBs of photographs for clients, it's devastating)
And honestly for professional photographers there are not many options beside Adobe/ Phase One.
But what about photography? Why did they Kill Aperture is beyond me. The Photos software is getting better but it's not comparable with LR, and Apple has no alternative to PS.
A professional photographer/ videographer is almost always under tremendous time constraints.
It's not the PS that's problematic to replace, but rather the LR. I know of 2 professional photographers ( one strictly wildlife, another in wedding and portrait photography) who moved to Capture One, the migration experience was difficult to say the least.
LR's library management is very different from Capture One ( where you can have both catalogue/ library and sessions)
Though Capture One supports PSD files, and exporting LR library seems very easy on papers, it can get really messy and there's a high chance of DB getting corrupted ( not a big deal for photography enthusiast, as you're not loosing any of your files, but for a professional who has TBs of photographs for clients, it's devastating)
And honestly for professional photographers there are not many options beside Adobe/ Phase One.
True, very true. Apple has the most inexpensive and possibly the best video and audio production software in the industry.
But what about photography? Why did they Kill Aperture is beyond me. The Photos software is getting better but it's not comparable with LR, and Apple has no alternative to PS.
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AINDRASIS_GUPTA
Disciple
You can check out Pixelmator Pro on the Mac. It's a great alternative to Photoshop and has a brilliant interface (almost better than Photoshop).
xkcd0137
Adept
Where should I make a post if I feel someone is trying to scam people here? I have messaged to the mods already though. Is that enough?
I could never reconcile with this subscription model when it comes to normal consumers like us. I can understand it makes sense for corporates if they bundle support. Unfortunately Adobe is not alone. M$ and others are gradually adopting it like a damn rent-a-furniture.
I use Capture One which came free with my Sony camera. Its crippled but works well for simple edits. For something more extensive, I use Luminar.
I use Capture One which came free with my Sony camera. Its crippled but works well for simple edits. For something more extensive, I use Luminar.
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AINDRASIS_GUPTA
Disciple
You can make a post under the Social Lounge segment under General Talk, if you want to spread your word.
Like it or not, subscription is here to stay. And frankly, with Adobe, its not like they have no choice for consumers, they do offer the crippled versions (Elements) for a one time fee.
And then there is the cost. If I bought Photoshop upfront, it would have been nearly 50K? That would be a huge price premium.
And then there is the cost. If I bought Photoshop upfront, it would have been nearly 50K? That would be a huge price premium.
Yes, it's ( Pixelomator) a very good software, but used it years ago. Had some issues with RAW processing from Canon CRW files.
Some companies have very good subscription based services, like Slate Digital's everything bundle pack or what Cakewalk did with Sonar Platinum. With cakewalk you could stop paying after few months, everything you have will work, but you won't get any updates.
AFAIK, Avid still has the worst subscription model fro ProTools.
Buying it outright is super expensive.
Some companies have very good subscription based services, like Slate Digital's everything bundle pack or what Cakewalk did with Sonar Platinum. With cakewalk you could stop paying after few months, everything you have will work, but you won't get any updates.
AFAIK, Avid still has the worst subscription model fro ProTools.
Buying it outright is super expensive.
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About the subscription argument, subscription is a good option for professional users who use it on a regular daily basis.
I used the *ahem* version of Sony Vegas Pro. It kept on crashing lol. I looked at the price of the original ones and said oh no. And haven't used any since. I'm a beginner btw. I want to learn Da Vinci Resolve. It's being recommended everywhere.
I used the *ahem* version of Sony Vegas Pro. It kept on crashing lol. I looked at the price of the original ones and said oh no. And haven't used any since. I'm a beginner btw. I want to learn Da Vinci Resolve. It's being recommended everywhere.
If you are just beginning don't go to Resolve straight away. It's a completely professional grade software with a pretty steep learning curve. Unless you are doing colour gading, don't use it right now.
Stronk
Adept
I'd actually recommend diving straight to Resolve. Just watch a few youtube tutorials which should get you the basics of Resolve in 30mins or so, and there are tutorials for basically everything in resolve, including by Nvidia themselves for some special AI powered denoising feature I think. Provided you have the patience, you will learn Resolve without much problem. Do dedicate some time on it, and remember that patience is key with editing
This is the same tactics that pharma companies use to sell cheap drugs for a premium since there are no alternatives. But in case of software, people will obviously pirate.
Linus explains how the alternative ecosystem is just not as good for complex professional workflows as Adobe suite:
Linus explains how the alternative ecosystem is just not as good for complex professional workflows as Adobe suite:
Actually there are many subscription services which does that. It makes payment easier for subscribers. I think the real outrage is
(a) Because people love Adobe products especially photoshop but hate its pricing.
(b) The condition of charging 50% of the contract obligation fee as cancellation fee which is outrageous.
I disagree. Premiere pro and Resolve both are very intuitive to use. Only one big beginner friendly feature missing from Premiere pro is Kens burns effect. Unlike image editing, basic Video editing IMO is such an easy task that if a software is advanced then everything falls into place. It is so called easy software such as Windows movie maker and filmora which are sometimes big hassle because of lack of basic features or sometimes too many clicks needed to perform basic tasks.
Affordable option is Filmora. You can buy individual license for $70 but if you install a trial version and then uninstall it then filmora will give you a discount of about $15. Free option is Da Vinci Resolve.
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I have been with sony eco system with a7iii and i found sony’s software is excellent for color correction and managing photos. other than that i use dxo optics pro. but for artistic work nothing comes close to ps. i still have an old cracked version. i even tried corel suite but it sucks.
for video i just stick to resolve.
for video i just stick to resolve.
Isn't gimp a good alternative to photoshop? When you first install resolve, on start up you get an option to have key binds according to final cut Pro, premier pro or avid media composer. The basic things like importing and cutting footage is easy. Fusion and colour correction are a bit intimidating. Also adding transitions and titles is not easy as final cut but nothing that can't be learnt using tutorials. If one is just starting out, davinci is a great alternative. For image editing, I have not found any software which has granular control like Light room. If one is looking for just basic editing, the bundled software which comes with the camera should be good enough
on paper it looks good. but not really. once you start adding something like 50 layers.