Market section - scams with compromised accounts

mk76 said:
Since this is related to marketplace, can someone clarify that in order to move to Disciple does one need to satisfy any one or both conditions as mentioned below.
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Man, I so want to get this requirement over with so I can actually post instantly and not wait for it to be approved. I was on Erodov too, albeit not that active. But that's not a criteria ofc, this is a different forum.
Edit: I mean normal posts, not an FS thread.
 
https://techenclave.com/threads/olx...ust-please-help-if-u-can.193891/#post-2215401 my story 1st hand experience, and many more happened like buyer going to his home to show the product to his parents later I found out that that house was lodge and it had a backdoor rest you can imagine..... Unfortunately in our country the laws enforcement is extremely poor, I ran to police station so many times nothing happened only waste of time and effort, it makes my blood boil recalling the incident and its aftermath, so I would again tell everyone to verify everything and be very cautious because one gets a chance if u miss it u will be trapped , in my case if I would have just checked my balance this would have not happened but I was in hurry and I trusted that payment screenshot (that was my biggest mistake)
 
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ryanrulez4ever said:
If you see me vouching for any seller that isn't me, never did that in the past and never will in the future as well
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Also even if a mod vouches for someone in a sale thread, then ask them for proof about why they chose to do so (basically the reason why they approved it, such as receiving a pic or a video etc.). If they claim that they have said proof but refuse to share it on the FS thread then that is another red flag

On a related note, one additional rule I can think of for adding to FS threads is to have a video of the person writing their name next to the product (in working condition if it is listed as such) on video as proof, instead of just a photo with the product. I understand this may take a little bit more effort, but this will help ensure that people don't fall for photoshops. Also by video I don't mean the face etc should be visible: just the hand of the person writing the username and date (as is required rn) in the same shot as the product. @puns @vyral_143 and other mods and admins what do you guys think?
 
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rdst_1 said:
I think we should go the XDA way and just close the marketplace. Even there, so many issues of resellers and bulk buyers had popped up and it became too much of a hassle for mods and admins.
Either the people participating in the marketplace should learn how to regulate and work out the issues, because trust me no admins or mods will be up for what some of the guys are suggesting.
If those guys want a eBay/Swappa, then maybe go ahead and setup one. TE admins and mods have made it clear plenty of times already, but still people don't stop asking.

Edit - I am not talking about the current 'hacking' case. I am talking about the members asking for TE to setup eBay like services.
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Marketplace should never be removed make the server secure thats safe and future proof
 
We will still have mods and long term accounts without 2FA and there is very good possibility of compromised accounts.

Why not make 2FA mandatory? With 30 day trust setting available, 2FA will not be a hassle. This will help those who join in the future (and not aware of these scams) better protected.
 
subham said:
Fullfiling these child like criteria are like walk in a park for fraudsters who nowadays are so much experts in technical and psychological stuff hypnotising buyers with their msg and talks oviously , and out of 10 people 3 people gets trapped in their talks , it's like those army fraud who edit everything and many many more these types of people don't have shame and go to any level even using indian army name for these heinous crimes
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Thats true it's not very hard to fulfill those criteria and starting posting FS threads.
But the scam only occured because the hacker used an old, trusted account. If the sale post was from a new account, even for a normal deal the buyer would take some sort of precautions to make sure first that's it legit.
I think the only fix is to secure the servers to prevent compromise of accounts and again, and for buyers to take all precautions before making payment.

mk76 said:
Since this is related to marketplace, can someone clarify that in order to move to Disciple does one need to satisfy any one or both conditions as mentioned below.
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Both conditions have to be fulfilled
 
Honestly I feel we should go the xda way and close the market place .
This may sound unpopular but this is mainly a tech forum and that's what most of us came here for initially .
TE mods can open a separate forum completely separate from TE to handle the marketplace .
I don't think resellers and scalpers should be entertained here .
I am aware there are quite a few genuine sellers here who are absolutely honest , hence atleast to safeguard their interests... the marketplace should be immediately halted for a finite amount of time first, then cleaned up of resellers and then reopened .
If thats not possible , then shift to a new forum made by TE exclusively for market place .
As the mods are busy with their own lives , and their job being voluntary, the new forum must state " buyers buy at own risk " with the mods trying to mod that forum the best they can with the above stated disclaimer.
Just my two cents .
Mods feel free to delete my post if not relevant to this topic .
Also I must state most sellers here are honest and I sincerely believe that .
Thank you for reading .
 
ankushv said:
Honestly I feel we should go the xda way and close the market place .
This may sound unpopular but this is mainly a tech forum and that's what most of us came here for initially .
TE mods can open a separate forum completely separate from TE to handle the marketplace .
I don't think resellers and scalpers should be entertained here .
I am aware there are quite a few genuine sellers here who are absolutely honest , hence atleast to safeguard their interests... the marketplace should be immediately halted for a finite amount of time first, then cleaned up of resellers and then reopened .
If thats not possible , then shift to a new forum made by TE exclusively for market place .
As the mods are busy with their own lives , and their job being voluntary, the new forum must state " buyers buy at own risk " with the mods trying to mod that forum the best they can with the above stated disclaimer.
Just my two cents .
Mods feel free to delete my post if not relevant to this topic .
Also I must state most sellers here are honest and I sincerely believe that .
Thank you for reading .
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Honestly speaking, I joined here for the marketplace. But later found that it's a really active tech forum, something which I didn't know I needed.
For example, just within a month of joining I revived a very scratchy mechanical keyboard using a guide someone posted here.
 
Hope the buy/sell forum continues to exist as it is. I personally see the buy/sell section as more of a friendly backyard sale than a competitive marketplace, with both buyers and sellers allowed a fairly free rein. Rather than blaming the section itself (or how it functions), members need to realise and come to accept that they are pretty much on their own here. There are of course occassional issues with scalpers, low-ballers, etc., but it is what it is, and I don't think there's a fair/easy solution to any of these.

The recent incidents and even the remotest possiblity of the DB being compromised had me more worried about data privacy than anything else. The mods have assured that the passwords are encrypted, which is a good thing. IMHO, we don't worry as much about data privacy as we ought to. Still concerned about the data in private conversations here, and would love to nudge the admins to form a data-retention policy (if they don't have one already). Is there a good reason why PMs older than a certain date need to exist?
 
ankushv said:
Honestly I feel we should go the xda way and close the market place .
This may sound unpopular but this is mainly a tech forum and that's what most of us came here for initially .
TE mods can open a separate forum completely separate from TE to handle the marketplace .
I don't think resellers and scalpers should be entertained here .
I am aware there are quite a few genuine sellers here who are absolutely honest , hence atleast to safeguard their interests... the marketplace should be immediately halted for a finite amount of time first, then cleaned up of resellers and then reopened .
If thats not possible , then shift to a new forum made by TE exclusively for market place .
As the mods are busy with their own lives , and their job being voluntary, the new forum must state " buyers buy at own risk " with the mods trying to mod that forum the best they can with the above stated disclaimer.
Just my two cents .
Mods feel free to delete my post if not relevant to this topic .
Also I must state most sellers here are honest and I sincerely believe that .
Thank you for reading .
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That's exactly what happened. Since the buyers and sellers were interested in continuing, we formed a new forum called Celltraderonline. Of course, not everyone from XDA made it there but people who bought and sold frequently found their way there until Swappa came along.
The funny thing is, in that scenario, I was someone who was against the closing of XDA MP, because I was making money from buying there and selling in India.
In TE's case, I actually have no problem with letting the MP continue functioning as it always has. Just that the buyers and sellers should not expect any responsibility from the mods or admins. These new members who only come for buying/selling need to realize that the trust based system these trades work on come from participating in the forum. If they don't do that, then the MP is never gonna work.
 
I'm guessing TE will soon become the go-to for buying/selling with all the recommendations being thrown around on reddit. It is good as well as bad. Just that the mods and admin need to be prepared. But the forum regulars here do a good job of unofficially screening possible scams and scalping.
End of the day, I'd prefer if this was a tech forum first (it still is) and the marketplace offering users a means to offload and upgrade. Personally not in favor of resellers (would prefer a distinction between them and regular users), but the influx of sellers also works to the benefit of users who get more purchase options than they would otherwise. It's a double-edged sword.
 
rdst_1 said:
These new members who only come for buying/selling need to realize that the trust based system these trades work on come from participating in the forum. If they don't do that, then the MP is never gonna work.
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It shouldn't be too difficult to switch to min "100 days + 100 msgs" before someone can join MP. That will filter out a lot of newbies who just want to sell and dash and will eventually ease mods work .
 
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