Apple announces lossless Apple Music is coming in June at no added cost

Not really...try his playlist with APM!! I don't really like Beatles ( mostly because of those weak ass vocal harmonies...but that's not the point here...) And what Jonathan liked is pretty crazy!!
Listen to some Audioslave with all those rubbish virtual things on!! Never knew Chris Cornell can sound so strange!!
 
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Not really...try his playlist with APM!! I don't really like Beatles ( mostly because of those weak ass vocal harmonies...but that's not the point here...) And what Jonathan liked is pretty crazy!!
Listen to some Audioslave with all those rubbish virtual things on!! Never know Chris Cornell can sound so strange!!
Man don't be so judgmental, I see it's the problem with many desi folks where they judge on what people wear, what company's phones they use and list goes on. Beatles are cool and sounds wonderful in Hi-Res and yeah I don't like Dolby stuff too but will reserve my judgement until I hear it.
 
Not really...try his playlist with APM!! I don't really like Beatles ( mostly because of those weak ass vocal harmonies...but that's not the point here...) And what Jonathan liked is pretty crazy!!
Listen to some Audioslave with all those rubbish virtual things on!! Never know Chris Cornell can sound so strange!!
He clearly mentioned that DA and SA is not for every song, only for songs mastered with that tech in mind.
 
Not being judgemental mate...I've heard each and every song he mentioned in that video with airpod Max last night ( my wife received the update)
Not a single Beatles song was mastered with Dolby and Spatial audio.
Even Steely Dan's phenomcenally mastered albums sound crazy with those.
Waves has plugins for Dolby Atmos and Sequoia can do it natively. Try it yourselves.
In fact wrote an email to Warren Huart asking about the guitar placement shown in the video with the Waves plugin.
He replied immediately..."it's not for you or me mate. It's for general population. Music will remain 2 mono outputs from master out for us" he meant stereo output from master out ( I once asked him a stupid question about splitting master out into 2 mono and work on them seperately years ago in one of his YT videos)
Now you people will attack me for bringing up production in audio consumption. But it's impossible to have a meaningful conversation about audio quality without production techniques.
What Apple is doing is nothing new or remotely revolutionary. It's been tried multiple times with disappointing results.
Music is not movies.
 
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My guess is that they need more time to work on label contracts. India had certain labels which are mainly only for the Hindi catalog. Thats the same reason why it took time for spotify to increase their Hindi song catalog.
Spotify ignored India for too long, maybe they thought who would pay for a streaming service but I don't think contracting labels is the reason for delay. I was a fan since 2009 when I started using it, was way ahead of others until 2016 when I switched to other options. They just went downhill ever since and even Amazon launched it's HD tier ahead of them.
 
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Rob sent me this few days back...it's a pretty long mail. Independent musicians ( some are amazing) are literally starving...we never think about the other side of these streaming services.
I made 265 EUR last month..it's okay for me as it's just a hobby. But many people I collaborate with are full time musicians..just think about it...streaming is booming..even our music ( with 6 online collaborations) was liked by more than 20 thousand people in a month, yet some amongst us is having difficulties to put food on table.
 
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Rob sent me this few days back...it's a pretty long mail. Independent musicians ( some are amazing) are literally starving...we never think about the other side of these streaming services.
I made 265 EUR last month..it's okay for me as it's just a hobby. But many people I collaborate with are full time musicians..just think about it...streaming is booming..even our music ( with 6 online collaborations) was liked by more than 20 thousand people in a month, yet some amongst us is having difficulties to put food on table.
Isn't it true that most musicians/singers make most of their money doing tours instead of music sales. Doesn't making sales by selling music online open more doors than earlier when there were only a few music publishers, whereas now anyone can become viral via Youtube and then start selling their music.
 
Tours in 2020/21? Yes the mammoth studios are mostly gone. Almost all tours are cancelled. Even most pubs are not allowing live bands.
The people you see in YouTube are just good musician youtubers, most of them are not even in bands anymore.
How do you start selling music? Whom do you sell to except Spotify and other streaming platforms?
It's really tough out there man, really tough. Some people got extremely lucky....I'm not talking about rap music here. Music with real instruments ( that you practice for decades).
Yes, I have zero talent, but there are truly talented musicians literally starving. Even street performance is not allowed in major cities in Europe.
 
whereas now anyone can become viral via Youtube and then start selling their music.
It's not as easy as people think, at least not today. YouTube pushes a very specific type of content nowadays thanks to their algorithm, and if your content does not appeal to their neural network then it won't get pushed. Plus yt itself is not a livelihood anymore, hence why most youtubers have at least some alternative channel of income such as Patreon, merch etc.
Plus there's survivorship bias as well - we hear about the one or two or few people who've made it big. Willing to bet there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands for each successful video, who tried just as hard and were maybe even better, but didn't make it due to n number of reasons.
 
Tours in 2020/21? Yes the mammoth studios are mostly gone. Almost all tours are cancelled. Even most pubs are not allowing live bands.
The people you see in YouTube are just good musician youtubers, most of them are not even in bands anymore.
How do you start selling music? Whom do you sell to except Spotify and other streaming platforms?
It's really tough out there man, really tough. Some people got extremely lucky....I'm not talking about rap music here. Music with real instruments ( that you practice for decades).
Yes, I have zero talent, but there are truly talented musicians literally starving. Even street performance is not allowed in major cities in Europe.
2020/21 is different for everyone. The point I am trying to make is that even before this pandemic, even the most popular artists made most of their money via live tours. So of course they are going to face hardships during the pandemic when everything is shutdown. The same is true for every industry affected by the pandemic and nothing is more affected than tourism industry. In fact so many people pivoted. I have watched so many comedy shows on zoom during the lockdown. Just like musicians, even comedy artists were affected but they found a way to start making money doing shows online. Similarly, I even saw some music performances online.

As for my point about ease in getting published or releasing music online, I am sure you agree that there are a lot more options these days and people have a lot more avenues to share their talent and make money. There is a reason why so many content creators release their content on free platforms like Youtube because they can make good money just by the ad revenue.
 
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It's not as easy as people think, at least not today. YouTube pushes a very specific type of content nowadays thanks to their algorithm, and if your content does not appeal to their neural network then it won't get pushed. Plus yt itself is not a livelihood anymore, hence why most youtubers have at least some alternative channel of income such as Patreon, merch etc.
Plus there's survivorship bias as well - we hear about the one or two or few people who've made it big. Willing to bet there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands for each successful video, who tried just as hard and were maybe even better, but didn't make it due to n number of reasons.
You are missing the point. When there was no Youtube or other online avenues to share their content, even those who made big on Youtube today would probably never make it. So just having the opportunity increases everyone's chances. Whether one makes it or not, or whether they are able to sustain still depends on one's hard work and luck.

TLDR : Having more avenues/sources of opportunity is still better.
 
Of course a 40 year old session guitarist is not going to start a youtube channel doing comedy and music 50:50. He's a damn good guitarist not a comedian.
He will crush any popular youtube guitar hero by his music but youtube is not about that. Only Rick could do it...and he's very highly talented.
I sent a slap bass challenge video to Davie. He very politely wrote an email explaining why he can't feature that video but sent a very nice bass amp and cab.
 
In fact wrote an email to Warren Huart asking about the guitar placement shown in the video with the Waves plugin.
He replied immediately..."it's not for you or me mate. It's for general population. Music will remain 2 mono outputs from master out for us"
That dude radiates chill vibes. He seems a very down to earth guy. And music production / audio tech is a huuge part of what makes songs... songs! They are not just recorded willynillly, all audio is crafted and mixed with specialized equipment with a sonic profile in mind.

It's as if we are seeing a painting of, say Mona Lisa, but everyone looking at the painting can only see it through their tinted, distorted glass. If crappy, distorted glass is what they have always been wearing, it ain't gonna bother them. No use popping a vein convincing them otherwise. Only after they have seen the painting with clear lens will they appreciate the true nature of painting.

One of the main reason I gave up on learning color grading was due to the sheer difficulty of procuring a decent reference display which doesn't cost what I was making in a year lol. While I did learn a bit on using waveforms and scopes the outputs were just not representative of what I wanted to portray. I tried color grading a short. I graded it on a borrowed Dell monitor where it looked decent. Saw it on the director's laptop and I could literally see how many of the colors seemed off, while some other things popped more than I intended.

Then again, play shit game and win shit prizes lol.
 
Of course a 40 year old session guitarist is not going to start a youtube channel doing comedy and music 50:50. He's a damn good guitarist not a comedian.
He will crush any popular youtube guitar hero by his music but youtube is not about that. Only Rick could do it...and he's very highly talented.
I sent a slap bass challenge video to Davie. He very politely wrote an email explaining why he can't feature that video but sent a very nice bass amp and cab.
I think you are either missing the point or trying not to understand. Every industry out there which has been hit by the pandemic have people suffering. My whole state survives mostly on Tourism so most of the people are affected. In another thread on TE, someone told of how his pilot friends have been out of job for months and probably won't have a job anytime soon.
So either one makes changes to survive or they might perish. The example about comedians was to try and tell you that other people who make money by performing to crowds pivoted to digital platforms and started making money. I wasn't asking musicians to turn into comics. In fact, I myself watched a few Zoom performances of a few musicians on talk shows this year. In fact some famous artist even released an album doing all the recording at a makeshift studio at their home and learned a lot about music production doing the same.
 
I'm totally getting your point. Indie musicians are somewhat different, most of them know some production work.
The main problem is the revenue sharing policies of the streaming companies.
 
I'm totally getting your point. Indie musicians are somewhat different, most of them know some production work.
The main problem is the revenue sharing policies of the streaming companies.
You need to see the issues between Indian artists and Indian publishing houses like T-series. The Indian artists have been pretty vocal about them in the recent past as well. Since most music in India is centred around movies, most artists have to pay royalties just to use songs sung by themselves when performing live.

The thing is that the issues you are trying to highlight have been there for decades. Earlier it was publishing houses and now it seems to be streaming services. The artists have always been making most of their money through sponsorships and live tours and because of the pandemic, that major revenue stream has dried up and hence these issues which they were living with, are now pinching even more. Maybe it will help in changing the scene for the better, but I seriously doubt it.
Many artists are now rich enough to do the right thing but no one has till now, which means that everyone just wants to make as much money they can for themselves. If they were really serious about this issue, they could very easily fund a project which would ensure fair revenue sharing for the artists.
 
I don't have much clue about present Indian scenario. We used to do advertisement stuff back in the days.
My last ad was with Mountain Dew...
 
I can see Apple Digital Master logo on some albums. But still no change in Apple Music Settings, so no idea if that makes any difference.
 
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