How do you search for a HDR tv if websites and apps mention only incomplete specifications?

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I was searching for a 43 or 50 inch HDR led tv to replace my aging old fhd led tv. Thing is on FK or Amazon I've seen there is no mention of the brightness in nits. Just some marketing bs like very high brightness or some meaningless 50000:1 contrast ratio (under what conditions and for how much time no one knows). Now they are even hiding the power consumption. Seeing only idle power consumption being mentioned instead of full power consumption. It's like asking someone how much food he eats and getting an answer like one apple at night. I don't like how everything is being hidden from people to hide the quality of the electronic items. Don't companies have enough confidence to even mention the shitty quality of their generic Chinese imports now? Or do they think that no one is interested in such information? Maybe in future we'll see listing for TVs like yes/no type answers instead of anything meaningful.
 
Check reviews. Rtings is a good site. HDTVTest on Youtube is another good reviewer. Even if the companies do mention nits and all, it is still highly exaggerated and often misleading. Do not believe anything the manufacturer prints out. You have to check other people's personal testing /user reviews.
 
Thing is, we won't find most TVs listed on Indian ecom websites reviewed on a trusted platform (rtings etc). Only a few notable good options are there.

I could name few HDR TVs in the increasing order of price which were taken well by reputed reviewers, hisense U6G, VU Gloled, hisense U7h(not as value as U6G), Sony x80k, x90k, then comes OLEDs from LG followed by Samsung mini LED TVs. Not to forget the best and top of the line Sony OLEDs.

The best value for money here is the Hisense U6G.

The above information was collected by me over a period of 2-3 months when I was in search of a TV, since specifications listed on ecom websites is not dependable I had to dig everywhere(YouTube, rtings, reddit etc).
 
Check reviews. Rtings is a good site. HDTVTest on Youtube is another good reviewer. Even if the companies do mention nits and all, it is still highly exaggerated and often misleading. Do not believe anything the manufacturer prints out. You have to check other people's personal testing /user reviews.
Indian Youtubers just waste time saying the same thing that the manufacturer published on their website. Reviews in Amazon or Flipkart is mostly by people who are buying a TV for first time and don't have that much experience to give detailed reviews. Most of them just say awesome picture quality etc or just rant about non existent support from the company which is justified i guess.
Yes, nits will be exaggerated like everything else.

How do we even check the nits at home without spending money on some lab equipment?
 
On a sidenote, is there any HDR streaming OTT available in India? Most HDR content that I have played look worse than SDR with extremely washed out colors :-(
 
You can check HDR10+ certified devices from this official site.

Some device support HDR10 only (not HDR10+) so HDR will only work on YouTube not on Netflix etc.
HDR certification doesn't mean it is an actual HDR TV. You need high brightness (600nit+) & FALD to even be an entry-level HDR TV like Hisense U6G with its 32 zones for FALD. Still, for a good HDR experience, it is said that you need approx. 1000 zones, which is present in TVs above 1 lakh or need an OLED (ok with low brightness because of infinite contrast ratio + each pixel being self-lit). I think Samsung QN85B/QN90B are the cheapest non-OLED alternatives, OLEDs are still not great for a very bright room which some people might have.
 
I don't like how everything is being hidden from people to hide the quality of the electronic items. Don't companies have enough confidence to even mention the shitty quality of their generic Chinese imports now? Or do they think that no one is interested in such information? Maybe in future we'll see listing for TVs like yes/no type answers instead of anything meaningful.
Believe it or not but there's no demand for accurate specification to be listed. It's a waste of time for sellers.

You don't have to look for generic Chinese stuff for discrepancies as even big brands like Samsung LG lie on their listings.

Either way one should always visit manufacturer's website for accurate information.
 
Believe it or not but there's no demand for accurate specification to be listed. It's a waste of time for sellers.

You don't have to look for generic Chinese stuff for discrepancies as even big brands like Samsung LG lie on their listings.

Either way one should always visit manufacturer's website for accurate information.
Even the manufacturer's website don't have accurate information. (⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠)
I'm guessing they just blindly import parts without much qc and don't bother to even check anything. Just assemble everything and sell to customer. Any problem and replace it at cost. No wonder there are so many brands here. They can't do this in western countries where there is higher quality control by manufacturers. Here just buy BIS licence and print it on everything to sell.
 
Even the manufacturer's website don't have accurate information. (⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠)
I'm guessing they just blindly import parts without much qc and don't bother to even check anything. Just assemble everything and sell to customer. Any problem and replace it at cost. No wonder there are so many brands here. They can't do this in western countries where there is higher quality control by manufacturers. Here just buy BIS licence and print it on everything to sell.
Pretty much yeah.

Coin has other side too. Customers don't demand it. Take example of washing machine. Here we are sticking our measurements tapes inside to measure the actual capacity of the drums. Because even big brands couldn't be bothered to mention it anywhere. Customers are gullible. So brands just tell them it's 7kg or 8kg or some other random number.
 
On a sidenote, is there any HDR streaming OTT available in India? Most HDR content that I have played look worse than SDR with extremely washed out colors :-(
Most new content on Netflix and Hotstar (disney section) is HDR/DV
Almost all content on ATV+ is DV.
Most new content 2020 onwards in in HDR or DV.

Washed out colors issue happens when the tonemapping is incorrect - Typically when you are trying to play HDR content on a screen that is either not HDR capable or not configured correctly for HDR.

If the HDR capability of screen is poor (e.g. low peaks which is the case in most low end screens that claim HDR support but only in name), while you wont get washed out colors but SDR will still look better than HDR.

However HDR on a good panel is a huge upgrade - I would go to the extent of saying that SDR-> HDR is a much bigger improvement than what we saw with 1080p-> 4K
 
Most new content on Netflix and Hotstar (disney section) is HDR/DV
Almost all content on ATV+ is DV.
Most new content 2020 onwards in in HDR or DV.

Washed out colors issue happens when the tonemapping is incorrect - Typically when you are trying to play HDR content on a screen that is either not HDR capable or not configured correctly for HDR.

If the HDR capability of screen is poor (e.g. low peaks which is the case in most low end screens that claim HDR support but only in name), while you wont get washed out colors but SDR will still look better than HDR.

However HDR on a good panel is a huge upgrade - I would go to the extent of saying that SDR-> HDR is a much bigger improvement than what we saw with 1080p-> 4K
I am currently playing HDR on an Asus Vivobook Pro 15 OLED laptop and the colours still seem washed out. A little digging on Asus forums hints that it might be a driver issue so there seems to be hope. Let's see!
 
I am currently playing HDR on an Asus Vivobook Pro 15 OLED laptop and the colours still seem washed out. A little digging on Asus forums hints that it might be a driver issue so there seems to be hope. Let's see!
Windows and HDR don't get along too well.
It's still very hit & miss.

One way to test would be to enable HDR across the board (which will make the windows UI look terrible ) and then play back what you want
 
I am currently playing HDR on an Asus Vivobook Pro 15 OLED laptop and the colours still seem washed out. A little digging on Asus forums hints that it might be a driver issue so there seems to be hope. Let's see!
Have you enable full range of colours? Windows by default doesn't show bottom and top 10% of colours.
I don't like that channel. His reviews don't seem authentic. I can't explain well in words.
That guy is a total crook. He doesn't do any reviews. All he does is turn spec sheet into sentences.
 
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