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n1r0 said:
You offered to do some illegal stuff as well. Moreover your claimed warranty is not matching with what MSI site is saying.

If I may go out on a limb here, I would say the board is older than you claimed, you posted a fake invoice here. When buyer asked for the unblurred one, you panicked thinking if the invoice is cross checked anywhere, your scam will come to light, hence all this drama over providing something as simple as an invoice.

Or MSI automatically starts warranty a few months after import, I don't know...
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No actually msi thing i was showing him that previously i had msi board and you need it's invoice to register warranty. Same goes for asus tbh but heres the catch the product warranty was already registered on August 2023 which raised red flags for me if I'm dealing with same product as invoice
 
n1r0 said:
You offered to do some illegal stuff as well. Moreover your claimed warranty is not matching with what MSI site is saying.

If I may go out on a limb here, I would say the board is older than you claimed, you posted a fake invoice here. When buyer asked for the unblurred one, you panicked thinking if the invoice is cross checked anywhere, your scam will come to light, hence all this drama over providing something as simple as an invoice.

Or MSI automatically starts warranty a few months after import, I don't know...
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My invoice is real I am not faking anything here. I can prove it too. But this guy has lied endless and as damaged my reputation on the forum. There was a reason why I did not sent him the invoice. Without proper apology from him. I am not going to do anything for him now. Mods can feel free to ban me, if they want to.
ILLusionOwO said:
No actually msi thing i was showing him that previously i had msi board and you need it's invoice to register warranty. Same goes for asus tbh but heres the catch the product warranty was already registered on August 2023 which raised red flags for me if I'm dealing with same product as invoice
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He himself told me he will come legally to me. That's why I said come on.
 
ILLusionOwO said:
No actually msi thing i was showing him that previously i had msi board and you need it's invoice to register warranty. Same goes for asus tbh but heres the catch the product warranty was already registered on August 2023 which raised red flags for me if I'm dealing with same product as invoice
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Ah my mistake. I didn't realize we were discussing on the wrong thread

bloomfield295 said:
Mods can feel free to ban me, if they want to.
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I think everyone's tempers are high right now. I'd request you both to sleep on it, get on a call tomorrow, and clear the miusunderstanding.
 
bloomfield295 said:
My invoice is real I am not faking anything here. I can prove it too. But this guy has lied endless and as damaged my reputation on the forum. There was a reason why I did not sent him the invoice. Without proper apology from him. I am not going to do anything for him now. Mods can feel free to ban me, if they want to.
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I find this funny. I'm talking with facts and all the screenshot of all the convos what about you? You claim I'm lying I'm doing this n that with nothing to back you up. You have refused to sent me cabinet and you're using it to negotiate with me to reduce the price of psu by taking cabinet as hostage? You claimed Cabinet was badly damaged but you couldn't provide images even in 10 days. You're a joke tbh
 
You will not get the invoice before you accept all the lies you have said against me. A proper apology else I am doing nothing for you.
 
napstersquest said:
Dude just give the invoice or refund him. His concerns over disparity between invoice date and warranty status are genuine. Whatever he does to the invoice is none of youe business, you have to give it up if you want to sell used stuff claiming to be in warranty. I have sold lots of stuff with my detailed personal address and number on the invoice. If you can't share it, then don't deal!

Still the mods are giving you a choice. Take one and be done with it.
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I agree. To be fair and neutral, if you list the invoice as available, you HAVE to hand it over. What the buyer does, is his business. If you do not want to give up the invoice, mark it as none and sell the product(s) at a lower price. @bloomfield295 you're in the wrong here, brother. End this amicably. You have three options:
  1. Refund If you don't want to share the invoice
  2. Share the invoice if you don't want to refund
  3. Risk getting banned if none of the above
 
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From here on I don't care whether I get banned or not.
Let me prove that I am not doing any sort of cheating. Here is a screenshot of my Amazon account orders page.
So I ordered the b550 Strix on 26-12-2022, got it delivered on 1st of January 2023.
People here think that I have tempered the invoice because of the sort of things this guy has done. But I did no such thing. This guy has affected my reputation here by posting a lot of false things about me As I mentioned he lies endlessly. Sometimes things are not the way they look. As for the warranty of the motherboard is concerned I have nothing to do with that too. I never checked the import date sticker, if he was that I was myself not aware of the fact that the manufacturing date of the motherboard is January 21.
 

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bloomfield295 said:
From here on I don't care whether I get banned or not.
Let me prove that I am not doing any sort of cheating. Here is a screenshot of my Amazon account orders page.
So I ordered the b550 Strix on 26-12-2022, got it delivered on 1st of January 2023.
People here think that I have tempered the invoice because of the sort of things this guy has done. But I did no such thing. This guy has affected my reputation here by posting a lot of false things about me As I mentioned he lies endlessly. Sometimes things are not the way they look. As for the warranty of the motherboard is concerned I have nothing to do with that too. I never checked the import date sticker, if he was that I was myself not aware of the fact that the manufacturing date of the motherboard is January 21.
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You keep talking about reputation this n that when all could have been avoided by 1. just putting motherboard on sale without warranty and invoice or you could have just provided the invoice.
2. By just sending the cabinet rather than asking me to reduce price of psu and refund you after the deal has been finalized and product have been shipped to you (you had psu for about 10 days ) you can't just change terms just like that. If you thought the psu was expensive you shouldn't have bought it. All of my item's were for individual sale. None of the product were to sold as combo. You said to me that I should reduce price of Cabinet which i did out of good will.You never paid me for cabinet and you said you'll send it without any issues(after pick up failed twice - reason product not ready with merchant) and then went on vacation. After coming from vacation you wanted refund on psu cause according to you psu cost should be 2500 rather than 3600 and said to me unless i offer you refund you will not ship Cabinet back to me.
I took full responsibility damage due to shipping for a little dent on Cabinet but later you told me there is more damage. I asked you instantly send me video and pics while we were in call your reply -i dont have time? I gave you ample amount of time (10days to provide pics) but no you didn't send me anything that's when i had obvious concerns which are - are you lying?

You said you'll tamper invoice which is shady af. Then you ask me to trust you. Damaging your reputation? Is it me damaging it or your actions? Everyone here is free to think but you're assuming you're always right. I informed mods 1 week 2 days before from today that the seller has yet to provide me invoice then i asked them to wait until i talk to you and solve this out of good will but you broke that trust leading to today
 
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After all this drama from him do you think I will trust him. As I cleared mentioned I am not going to take the motherboard back.
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you're equally to blame plus editing invoice or suggesting to edit invoice stinks to high heavens
n1r0 said:
You offered to do some illegal stuff as well. Moreover your claimed warranty is not matching with what MSI site is saying.

If I may go out on a limb here, I would say the board is older than you claimed, you posted a fake invoice here. When buyer asked for the unblurred one, you panicked thinking if the invoice is cross checked anywhere, your scam will come to light, hence all this drama over providing something as simple as an invoice.

Or MSI automatically starts warranty a few months after import, I don't know...
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that's exactly what happened here , this guy is a scammer plain and simple WILL HAVE TO ASK MY CA GIVE ME ****ING BREAK , DO YOU ASK FOR CA TO TAKE PISS AS WELL?
if invoice is part of the deal you have to hand it over as you cannot claim warranty in may cases without and thus most often than not price is lowered because of lack of invoice and YES warranty is not transferable in most of the cases but RMA guys dont do KYC and just provide replacement on seeing the invoice that's it.

don't sell the products if you are that sensitive about details on invoice or otherwise let it be known invoice is not available before hand.

People like him just want to extract maximum profit out of everything typical greedy scammer mindset @bloomfield295 @ILLusionOwO
 
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bloomfield295 said:
From here on I don't care whether I get banned or not.
Let me prove that I am not doing any sort of cheating. Here is a screenshot of my Amazon account orders page.
So I ordered the b550 Strix on 26-12-2022, got it delivered on 1st of January 2023.
People here think that I have tempered the invoice because of the sort of things this guy has done. But I did no such thing. This guy has affected my reputation here by posting a lot of false things about me As I mentioned he lies endlessly. Sometimes things are not the way they look. As for the warranty of the motherboard is concerned I have nothing to do with that too. I never checked the import date sticker, if he was that I was myself not aware of the fact that the manufacturing date of the motherboard is January 21.
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What you have done wrong:

  1. Holding the cabinet hostage until the price of the PSU is reduced further, 10 days after the PSU was bought. Essentially, not honoring an agreed-upon price AFTER receiving the product. Highly unethical in these forums.
  2. Stating warranty and invoice are available and selling at a higher price. When asked for the invoice, refusing to hand it over due to childish reasons. What triggered you was the fear that he would claim GST using your invoice, which is nonsensical. Do you think he has time to do that?
  3. Not paying for the cabinet initially
  4. Disparity between the invoice and manufacturing date of the motherboard
  5. Offering to edit the invoice
  6. Refusing to take back the motherboard stating that it's already been 10 days. But it's okay for you to demand a refund on the PSU which you have been happily using for 10 days? Hypocrisy.
What @ILLusionOwO has done wrong:

  1. Been too patient

Draw your own conclusions. @bloomfield295 you're damaging your own reputation. Just share the invoice and be done with it.
 
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1. Cabinet as hostage, really. I contacted him once I saw there was damage in the cabinet. He agreed and ultimately it was decided that I get to keep the broken cabinet without any cost. Then after an hour he call me saying he can get 1800₹ back if I send him the cabinet back from the courier company by telling them that because of them the cabinet got damaged in the transit.
I am not using that cabinet at the moment and I have no plans of doing so.
As I already mentioned I am ready to send him the cabinet if he pays for shipping.
2. The motherboard was bought on 26-12-2023 and then got delivered on 1st of January. Already shared a screenshot of my Amazon account. I am not playing with any warranty terms or anything. I was myself not aware that the motherboard was imported in 2021.
3. As for the cabinet and psu deal, it was a combined deal, 4600₹ for the psu + case, out of which 3600₹ was transferred to him after two days of delivery of the product.
5. Got the motherboard delivered on 1st of January 2023. It got imported back in January 2021 that's not my fault.
6. Psu is also still not used. As it was the part of the combined deal and he wanted the cabinet back, I told him to take the psu back as well because without cabinet buying the psu at 3600₹ used when the same new psu is selling for 4500₹.
Those courier guys never came to pick the product up, and he blamed all that again on me, that I am the one not handing over the package to them. This has happened with me previously also sometimes those guys mark it as a user error. But what he did, he used that again me as If I am the one who is not handing over the cabinet. Last Sunday I told him I am ready to ship the package but he never agreed because he always wants to create issues on something or the other.
He himself mentioned 3800₹ for the psu + 1800₹ for the cabinet but once the cabinet got damaged he only reduced 1000₹ for it (now again its my fault I guess)
 

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Have you claimed GST on this motherboard, is that why you are so reluctant to share the invoice. I can see that you are using an Amazon Business account from the screenshot. I believe you need a business registered with a GSTin to create a business account.
bloomfield295 said:
6. Psu is also still not used. As it was the part of the combined deal and he wanted the cabinet back, I told him to take the psu back as well because without cabinet buying the psu at 3600₹ used when the same new psu is selling for 4500₹.
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The PSU is selling online for 4.8k brand new. You bought it from him for 3.6k, which is a 25% discount on MRP for a less than a year used product. I would say that is a good deal, and you probably wouldn't get it better than that unless you are looking at products used more than 3+yrs.
bloomfield295 said:
He himself mentioned 3800₹ for the psu + 1800₹ for the cabinet but once the cabinet got damaged he only reduced 1000₹ for it (now again its my fault I guess)
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You have only paid him Rs 3600 which is just for the PSU. You haven't paid him for the cabinet. He's not asking you to pay any extra money for the cabinet, and just requesting you to send it back to him. So since the cabinet is slightly damaged, you want him to reduce the price for the PSU as well. What kind of a logic is that. If you had paid for the cabinet, then reducing the overall price would have made sense.
 
Why is it so hard to understand for you. 3800₹ + 1800₹ was the price he mentioned, then we ended up dealing at 4600₹, how come that means he negotiated the entire amaount for the cabinet only and just reduced 200₹ for the psu.
 
bloomfield295 said:
1. Cabinet as hostage, really. I contacted him once I saw there was damage in the cabinet. He agreed and ultimately it was decided that I get to keep the broken cabinet without any cost. Then after an hour he call me saying he can get 1800₹ back if I send him the cabinet back from the courier company by telling them that because of them the cabinet got damaged in the transit.
I am not using that cabinet at the moment and I have no plans of doing so.
As I already mentioned I am ready to send him the cabinet if he pays for shipping.
2. The motherboard was bought on 26-12-2023 and then got delivered on 1st of January. Already shared a screenshot of my Amazon account. I am not playing with any warranty terms or anything. I was myself not aware that the motherboard was imported in 2021.
3. As for the cabinet and psu deal, it was a combined deal, 4600₹ for the psu + case, out of which 3600₹ was transferred to him after two days of delivery of the product.
5. Got the motherboard delivered on 1st of January 2023. It got imported back in January 2021 that's not my fault.
6. Psu is also still not used. As it was the part of the combined deal and he wanted the cabinet back, I told him to take the psu back as well because without cabinet buying the psu at 3600₹ used when the same new psu is selling for 4500₹.
Those courier guys never came to pick the product up, and he blamed all that again on me, that I am the one not handing over the package to them. This has happened with me previously also sometimes those guys mark it as a user error. But what he did, he used that again me as If I am the one who is not handing over the cabinet. Last Sunday I told him I am ready to ship the package but he never agreed because he always wants to create issues on something or the other.
He himself mentioned 3800₹ for the psu + 1800₹ for the cabinet but once the cabinet got damaged he only reduced 1000₹ for it (now again its my fault I guess)
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Your arguments are pretty weak, and don't have much to stand on. Also, you are not directly addressing two main things and beating about the bush:

  1. Why ask for the PSU price to be lowered to 2500 after 10 days of using it? Did your CA suddenly tell you that it wasn't worth the price you paid for it?
  2. Why aren't you still sharing the invoice? Because he hurt your feelings? You're an adult.
 
bloomfield295 said:
Why is it so hard to understand for you. 3800₹ + 1800₹ was the price he mentioned, then we ended up dealing at 4600₹, how come that means he negotiated the entire amaount for the cabinet only and just reduced 200₹ for the psu.
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Did you clarify earlier how much he reduced the price for both items? Or you are just assuming?
If you are assuming because it suits your narrative, you are in the wrong mate.
 
bloomfield295 said:
1. Cabinet as hostage, really. I contacted him once I saw there was damage in the cabinet. He agreed and ultimately it was decided that I get to keep the broken cabinet without any cost. Then after an hour he call me saying he can get 1800₹ back if I send him the cabinet back from the courier company by telling them that because of them the cabinet got damaged in the transit.
I am not using that cabinet at the moment and I have no plans of doing so.
As I already mentioned I am ready to send him the cabinet if he pays for shipping.
2. The motherboard was bought on 26-12-2023 and then got delivered on 1st of January. Already shared a screenshot of my Amazon account. I am not playing with any warranty terms or anything. I was myself not aware that the motherboard was imported in 2021.
3. As for the cabinet and psu deal, it was a combined deal, 4600₹ for the psu + case, out of which 3600₹ was transferred to him after two days of delivery of the product.
5. Got the motherboard delivered on 1st of January 2023. It got imported back in January 2021 that's not my fault.
6. Psu is also still not used. As it was the part of the combined deal and he wanted the cabinet back, I told him to take the psu back as well because without cabinet buying the psu at 3600₹ used when the same new psu is selling for 4500₹.
Those courier guys never came to pick the product up, and he blamed all that again on me, that I am the one not handing over the package to them. This has happened with me previously also sometimes those guys mark it as a user error. But what he did, he used that again me as If I am the one who is not handing over the cabinet. Last Sunday I told him I am ready to ship the package but he never agreed because he always wants to create issues on something or the other.
He himself mentioned 3800₹ for the psu + 1800₹ for the cabinet but once the cabinet got damaged he only reduced 1000₹ for it (now again its my fault I guess)
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Reply to all your points
1. The delivery was insured they asked me to provide proof of damage by sending pics and videos which ultimately you didn't provide at that time ie 28 april You had time to pack the product and you sent a pic to me that cabinet is ready for return shipping. you had time to message me and talk all your things but you never reported me with any of pics but i still talked with the delhivery based on the one pic you provided they arranged on field inspection at their hq but I was out of time as the product was not with me at the decided date. I still compromised you went on vacation for a week and when you returned you decided to propose that i take psu back too that too at lower price than agreed(8 th may ) which is just unacceptable. You could have told same on 28th april i would have agreed but the amount of shady stuff you suggested in between and the trust i lost regarding invoice played vital role for me not to accept your conditions and yes i turned down 4 buyers for the psu cause you approached me first. None of the items in my thread of sale have anything related to combined discount I even refused to sell it to @Willer as combo. You asked for discount further i reduced price of Cabinet to 1000 that's what we agreed on call cause value of cabinet can vary but not working electronic products.
2. Motherboard was bought on 26 December thats fine and god i hope the serial number of motherboard is on the invoice (that you have not provided) but I have all the reasonable concerns like why warranty of product started on August 2022(product was manufactured on January 2022) you as a seller failed to clarify let's assume you had no idea thats fine but if you're still not providing after all this then yes you're suspicious and the motherboard isnt worth 17.2k that i paid(i can get new one by paying 2k or 2.5k more). But even till this point I have not complained about price yet you always say I'm one of the worst buyer. Never I have demanded anything unreasonable to you. You had audacity to lie about missing key chain from the box but when asked upon this made me worry alot that the product you received might not be sealed and it's one of those open seal scam where people open seal with heat gun or something then apply new sticker n stuff. The keychain doesn't matter but you should be honest (screen shot attached below)
3.My thread does not have any info regarding selling of items as combo. Yes indeed 3600 were transferred of psu and 1000 was not because the cabinet had to be returned.
5.since you forgot counting so coming to point 5. Lemme tell you since you care so much about reputation that as a seller if you don't know things like warranty and if you sell the product after which you think it's okay to say it's not my fault then you're a very bad seller.Busniess works on promises that are kept.thid is very unethical
6. You told me to take take psu back after 10 days breaking my trust tried to lower it's price. why did you buy it? As i said none of the items were sold as combo.you yourself told me you paid me for psu and processor ie 3600 + 9000 on 28 th april so that means you agreed the price of psu was 3600 on 28th april and 1000 rs weren't paid by you cause cabinet had to be shipped back so you agreed the price of Cabinet was 1000. 10 days later you're telling everyone the product were sold as combo. And you want to pay 2500 rs for psu and unless i pay you 1000 you'll not shi cabinet back You're making everything up to suit yourself you're such a liar dude
You tell everyone I'm lying
You think I'm gonna become millionaire after lying? I'm gonna become best seller in te? Mod of te? I'll be so successful in life? All I'm asking for is invoice (if I'll not get it I'll lose warranty) and the cabinet to be shipped back that is within my rights and is by no means unreasonable request
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Did you clarify earlier how much he reduced the price for both items? Or you are just assuming?
If you are assuming because it suits your narrative, you are in the wrong mate.
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I have mentioned this dude paid me 9000+ 3600 ( processor+ psu) originally it was 9000+ 3600+1000 as he mentioned Why would someone pay me without agreeing to the price? But 10 days later he wants to change prices you already know who is lying
 

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Reply to all your points
1. The delivery was insured they asked me to provide proof of damage by sending pics and videos which ultimately you didn't provide at that time ie 28 april You had time to pack the product and you sent a pic to me that cabinet is ready for return shipping. you had time to message me and talk all your things but you never reported me with any of pics but i still talked with the delhivery based on the one pic you provided they arranged on field inspection at their hq but I was out of time as the product was not with me at the decided date. I still compromised you went on vacation for a week and when you returned you decided to propose that i take psu back too that too at lower price than agreed(8 th may ) which is just unacceptable. You could have told same on 28th april i would have agreed but the amount of shady stuff you suggested in between and the trust i lost regarding invoice played vital role for me not to accept your conditions and yes i turned down 4 buyers for the psu cause you approached me first. None of the items in my thread of sale have anything related to combined discount I even refused to sell it to @Willer as combo. You asked for discount further i reduced price of Cabinet to 1000 that's what we agreed on call cause value of cabinet can vary but not working electronic products.
2. Motherboard was bought on 26 December thats fine and god i hope the serial number of motherboard is on the invoice (that you have not provided) but I have all the reasonable concerns like why warranty of product started on August 2022(product was manufactured on January 2022) you as a seller failed to clarify let's assume you had no idea thats fine but if you're still not providing after all this then yes you're suspicious and the motherboard isnt worth 17.2k that i paid(i can get new one by paying 2k or 2.5k more). But even till this point I have not complained about price yet you always say I'm one of the worst buyer. Never I have demanded anything unreasonable to you. You had audacity to lie about missing key chain from the box but when asked upon this made me worry alot that the product you received might not be sealed and it's one of those open seal scam where people open seal with heat gun or something then apply new sticker n stuff. The keychain doesn't matter but you should be honest (screen shot attached below)
3.My thread does not have any info regarding selling of items as combo. Yes indeed 3600 were transferred of psu and 1000 was not because the cabinet had to be returned.
5.since you forgot counting so coming to point 5. Lemme tell you since you care so much about reputation that as a seller if you don't know things like warranty and if you sell the product after which you think it's okay to say it's not my fault then you're a very bad seller.Busniess works on promises that are kept.thid is very unethical
6. You told me to take take psu back after 10 days breaking my trust tried to lower it's price. why did you buy it? As i said none of the items were sold as combo.you yourself told me you paid me for psu and processor ie 3600 + 9000 on 28 th april so that means you agreed the price of psu was 3600 on 28th april and 1000 rs weren't paid by you cause cabinet had to be shipped back so you agreed the price of Cabinet was 1000. 10 days later you're telling everyone the product were sold as combo. And you want to pay 2500 rs for psu and unless i pay you 1000 you'll not shi cabinet back You're making everything up to suit yourself you're such a liar dude
You tell everyone I'm lying
You think I'm gonna become millionaire after lying? I'm gonna become best seller in te? Mod of te? I'll be so successful in life? All I'm asking for is invoice (if I'll not get it I'll lose warranty) and the cabinet to be shipped back that is within my rights and is by no means unreasonable request

I have mentioned this dude paid me 9000+ 3600 ( processor+ psu) originally it was 9000+ 3600+1000 as he mentioned Why would someone pay me without agreeing to the price? But 10 days later he wants to change prices you already know who is lying
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Yup I agree I paid higher initially and realised it later
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@bloomfield295 Things aren't looking to be in your favor. The only thing I can agree wasn't your fault was the missed courier pickup. Just share the un-tampered invoice, and be done with it.
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His father can produce any invoice for GST claim, really??
 

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