ACT Fibernet silently cuts FUP from 3300GB to 1500GB

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ACT encourages responsible use of unlimited data by each of its subscribers. ACT believes that even when a subscriber chooses to use the Unlimited plans extensively he or she may not be able to consume the maximum data limit of 1500 GB per month or above as per the tariff plan subscribed (hereinafter referred as "Maximum Data Limit"). Any such usage over and above said Maximum Data Limit will be treated as abuse of Unlimited Data plans by the said subscriber.
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This is ridiculous and ACT will only lose market
 
guest_999 said:
Fyi, it is the international bandwidth (traffic that crosses a country's borders) that cost much more, domestic bandwidth is dirt cheap.
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This is correct.
I'm not sure why you would bring this up. We're talking about an ISP that reduces FUP limits and restricts its consumers.
Some time ago, ISPs were debating raising prices; it appears that they have agreed to cut FUP and save money.
I believe they raised the cost of my plan by 5% some time ago.
 
ACT used to cap their FUP at 1.5TB back in 2017/2018 AFAIK. They eventually increased it to 3.3TB. This move is point-blank regression.
 
swatkats said:
This is correct.
I'm not sure why you would bring this up. We're talking about an ISP that reduces FUP limits and restricts its consumers.
Some time ago, ISPs were debating raising prices; it appears that they have agreed to cut FUP and save money.
I believe they raised the cost of my plan by 5% some time ago.
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I meant to say that most bandwidth used by majority of any ISP in India is on typical CDN using websites/platforms like youtube/FB/OTTs etc which is basically domestic bandwidth so unless ACT customers are unique & majority of their bandwidth usage is international this FUP limit doesn't make any sense.
 
rahuljawale said:
WTF! They send out useless alerts and promo messages all the time, but they don't have the sincerity to declare changes in terms and conditions? Sounds like a shoddy business practice to me.
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Customer care says no change. Asking me to check on ACT Fibernet app which shows 3300GB.

Looks like this is for new users or these changes will be applicable from 1st.
 
they will not loose market, as Hathway (aka Jio) did same in 2020-2021 and still Hathway Broadband is there, India is vast market (populations), someone somewhere is there to get cheat by ..... and when all service providers (though different in name/brand/owners) start Cartels than sooner or latter situation will going to worst
swatkats said:
Customer care says no change. Asking me to check on ACT Fibernet app which shows 3300GB.

Looks like this is for new users or these changes will be applicable from 1st.
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Hathway too assured me that there is no changes from their side and ask to check and when I check they do showing same package which I paid for and again after 6-12 hrs. they start showing 50% reduced FUP, they keep repeating same thing, some time even 2 times in 24 hrs and for 6 month without any shame and after that I left them.
 
Its been going on since June. Mine was reduced to 500GB from 750GB previously. The 24/7 uptime at my apartment is the only thing holding me back from a disconnection.
 
Well I hope this isn't true. If it is and if other providers follow suit then I'll have to stop sharing beyond 1:1 for my torrents. Usually I do 1:5 but yeah sharing is not caring anymore. Lol.
 
altair21 said:
90% of the bandwidth you consume is international at a very conservative estimate, so its a moot point
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It isn't, look up CDN.
en.wikipedia.org

Content delivery network - Wikipedia

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www.tubefilter.com

In 2022, 65% of all internet traffic came from video sites - Tubefilter

Sandvine's latest Global Internet Phenoma Report reveals that video -- after a 24% YOY increase -- now accounts for 65% of internet traffic.
www.tubefilter.com www.tubefilter.com

All of them uses CDN & India has a lot of CDN servers nowadays.
 
guest_999 said:
It isn't, look up CDN.
en.wikipedia.org

Content delivery network - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

www.tubefilter.com

In 2022, 65% of all internet traffic came from video sites - Tubefilter

Sandvine's latest Global Internet Phenoma Report reveals that video -- after a 24% YOY increase -- now accounts for 65% of internet traffic.
www.tubefilter.com www.tubefilter.com

All of them uses CDN & India has a lot of CDN servers nowadays.
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I know what a CDN is and net usage exists out of just OTT and streaming, you do any kind of piracy and you bet your ass most of the time its not gonna be some CDN/indian Ip you are gonna connect to, infact aside from any major site which can afford a proper CDN setup, 99% of the time you are not gonna connect to an India based IP
 
altair21 said:
I know what a CDN is and net usage exists out of just OTT and streaming, you do any kind of piracy and you bet your ass most of the time its not gonna be some CDN/indian Ip you are gonna connect to, infact aside from any major site which can afford a proper CDN setup, 99% of the time you are not gonna connect to an India based IP
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Piracy is not as much popular nowadays especially in India where ppl get used to Rs.50-100 per month ott plans when cheapest unlimited 4/5g plan cost 250 per month. This might come as surprise to users here but general public left piracy scene long ago in India. Nowadays even many pirate sites have started using cdn services. Most ppl in India nowadays get their content from ultra compressed files on TG channels to watch on their mobile.
 
guest_999 said:
Piracy is not as much popular nowadays especially in India where ppl get used to Rs.50-100 per month ott plans when cheapest unlimited 4/5g plan cost 250 per month. This might come as surprise to users here but general public left piracy scene long ago in India. Nowadays even many pirate sites have started using cdn services.
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let me put it this way, what do you think is a typical usage pattern for a normal family who at best streams from Netflix, Prime Video, Hotstar etc and browses facebook and whatsapp? I doubt it'll even go beyond 500 gigs/month, compare to a normal "heavy" user who downloads movies, games and in general is into piracy? can easily be double that or even triple. I am not even one of the heaviest internet users in my circle and my usage easily peaks above 2.5tb every month. Bandwidth is just a first-time investment, maintaining it is very cheap. internet is nothing but just a bunch of servers across continents connected with deep sea cables.
 
altair21 said:
let me put it this way, what do you think is a typical usage pattern for a normal family who at best streams from Netflix, Prime Video, Hotstar etc and browses facebook and whatsapp? I doubt it'll even go beyond 500 gigs/month, compare to a normal "heavy" user who downloads movies, games and in general is into piracy? can easily be double that or even triple. I am not even one of the heaviest internet users in my circle and my usage easily peaks above 2.5tb every month. Bandwidth is just a first-time investment, maintaining it is very cheap. internet is nothing but just a bunch of servers across continents connected with deep sea cables.
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I am not sure what you mean to say because I am saying that majority of bandwidth usage comes via domestic bandwidth which is much cheaper compared to international bandwidth & a typical user will always mostly use domestic bandwidth as piracy contribution to bandwidth usage in India is much lower. So if an ISP reduces fup to 1500GB per month then economically it doesn't make much sense though practically most users wouldn't mind it as much.

Those who use more than 1-2TB per month in India are already a niche category of users. Bandwidth is also not just one time investment because ISPs need to pay the companies who lay down & maintain those deep sea cables on a regular basis.
 
A typical user of present day India means the following:
Jio daily data (to them 2 gb/day is sky high lmao)
Some ott sub to watch some local garbage like Indian loldol and similar
A smartphone (where a 6.5 inch display is entertaining enough for them).

I'm sorry but the above are the niche users. As this thread is about wired broadband and associated FUP capping, I don't think the above usage applies here. So yeah there are MANY who would mind. I personally never bothered due to my low-ish usage, but whatever.
 
sauravghosh said:
A typical user of present day India means the following:
Jio daily data (to them 2 gb/day is sky high lmao)
Some ott sub to watch some local garbage like Indian loldol and similar
A smartphone (where a 6.5 inch display is entertaining enough for them).

I'm sorry but the above are the niche users. As this thread is about wired broadband and associated FUP capping, I don't think the above usage applies here. So yeah there are MANY who would mind. I personally never bothered due to my low-ish usage, but whatever.
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Yes but I am only saying that economically it doesn't make sense unless majority of ACT users are niche users using more than 2TB per month.
 
Sad (in context of Digital India & with new DCs coming up in every Gully and Mohalla off late), but not surprising. Also, IMO, it won't bother a vast majority either.
Consumers that exceed 1.5-2TB/mo usually are into piracy, file-sharing or some such and would easily fall under the 95+ percentile bracket in terms of data consumption. They certainly do not define the market and Telcos basically treat them as outliers while define policies that maximize ARPU - factoring in for the churn, should it even come to that.

Also, the guys talking about CDNs only being used by TOP streaming platforms etc may want to look at the number of common websites using cloudflare. It DOES act as a CDN as well by acting as a reverse proxy and caching a vast majority of static resources like CSS, JS or Image files and serving them directly to reduce LCP/FCP/TTI. Even OS updates have gone local / P2P based.

The trans-oceanic traffic consumption by average household / content consumers has reduced considerably compared to what it was, say 7-10y ago.
 
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