Linux Endeavour OS: switching from Debian 12 Bookworm

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I am given to understand Arch-based systems are ineherently unstable ( last year outage included ) but I want to be on something more than Debian ( which was very good ). Additionally, I want to user BTRFS snapshots in case of trouble- couldn't do so on Debian.

Question is: are there any long terms users of EndeavourOS? I really want to stop distrohopping.
PS- have used almost all distros in the past, and Endeavour is pretty snappy.
 
vishalrao said:
Have you tried OpenSUSE Tumbleweed? Pretty solid and polished. I like it a lot even though I run ubuntu-lts-based distros as daily drivers.

You can download one of the ISOs from https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/
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Probably back in 2012. Don't remember well enough. Have been hearing good things about Suse of late. But don't know how to manage and whether it is snappy enough. For instance, tried Fedora- and it somehow felt heavy! What has been experience so far?
 
vishalrao said:
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
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Tumbleweed is one great choice, but my time with it hasn't been that great. I normally update during weekends and TW being rolling release that'd be updates piling up to be around1-3gb, this combined with zypper being very slow and no dedicated server were there from India at that time (I think there aren't any even today) and lack of parallel downloads, and you'd be waiting for quite some time for updates to complete.
(Another nitpick was those patterns)

If you want Debian with snapper and grub-btrfs, there's Spiral Linux from the creator of Gecko Linux (Opensuse derivative).

You could also setup fedora with snapper and get a more bleeding edge distro.

Also an interesting project for devs is the ublue-os bluefin/aurora (Fedora atomic distros), great pick for containerized workflow. I've been using it for few months ( works great even with the cursed mixture of Nvidia+Wayland+multi monitors+ secure boot)

These two choice are very different and they give a way to rollback if an update fails (one through snapper and the other uses ostree).
 
I ran the same install of debian testing for over 2 years, and got kinda bored of the stability. I hopped to (vanilla) arch and was very pleased with it until I upgraded to the latest major release of gnome way faster than my extensions updated for it - and gnome is unusable to me without the extensions.

I went to fedora next, and stayed with it. I think it might be what you're looking for.
I currently use a universalblue distro named Bazzite since I have an nvidia card, but I'd highly recommend trying anything based on silverblue. They're really well done imo.
 
I noticed Debian repo CDN (fastly) is, well, quite aptly, very fast... I get full 1gbit (my internet plan) downloads when updating.

For the openSUSE tumbleweed slowness issue, what I did was run a cron rsync script to pre-download everything tumbleweed at regular intervals to my miniPC with a 2TB SATA SSD (the tumbleweed repos take about 100gb space) and I serve it via nginx, plus using Technitium DNS server to point the domain download.opensuse.org to my miniPC local repo mirror LOL so it automatically pulls from the local network.

So I get full 1gbit local LAN speeds whenever I update :cool:

PS: I also do this local mirroring for ubuntu jammy and noble, plus KDE neon repos and some other launchpad PPAs (which are very slow for me) like elementary OS and Firefox PPA.
fakemishra said:
Probably back in 2012. Don't remember well enough. Have been hearing good things about Suse of late. But don't know how to manage and whether it is snappy enough. For instance, tried Fedora- and it somehow felt heavy! What has been experience so far?
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Currently running on a Ryzen 6800U laptop and its quite smooth, gets 8 hours of moderate usage battery life (68 Wh capacity).
 
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vishalrao said:
I noticed Debian repo CDN (fastly) is, well, quite aptly, very fast... I get full 1gbit (my internet plan) downloads when updating.

For the openSUSE tumbleweed slowness issue, what I did was run a cron rsync script to pre-download everything tumbleweed at regular intervals to my miniPC with a 2TB SATA SSD (the tumbleweed repos take about 100gb space) and I serve it via nginx, plus using Technitium DNS server to point the domain download.opensuse.org to my miniPC local repo mirror LOL so it automatically pulls from the local network.

So I get full 1gbit local LAN speeds whenever I update :cool:

PS: I also do this local mirroring for ubuntu jammy and noble, plus KDE neon repos and some other launchpad PPAs (which are very slow for me) like elementary OS and Firefox PPA.


Currently running on a Ryzen 6800U laptop and its quite smooth, gets 8 hours of moderate usage battery life (68 Wh capacity).
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That is impressive. I usually do lot of academic and very little gaming ( Counter strike ) . Nvidia 2050 card. I am actually inclined to give this a go. Really want to stop distrohopping. Will need to see some videos for pointers
 
Trivia: SUSE was first to default to btrfs for their enterprise customers. I have used tumbleweed and it's ok. I used vanilla arch for some time until it hampered my work, went to endeavour and manjaro thinking the upgrades would be spaced out. Used Tumbleweed before that but had the same issue. Eventually Fedora turned out to a good balance. Though I never liked Fedora for unexplained reasons. I use it for my work (laptop) and btrfs is great too I mean it's in-kernel filesystem so nothing special about btrfs in fedora. I run MX Linux on my desktop

In short I use alma/rocky for my servers (Cloud and local) if the image is not available then Debian

Fedora (for laptop) and MX Linux (desktop) for workstations.
 
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rootyme said:
The OOB UI is terrible. How have you customised it? Any SS?
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Nope. I know aesthetics are personal but it's xfce by default (so looks ugly to a lot of people). You can get the KDE one if you want some zing. I hopped through more than 50-60 distros to settle on MX. Life is quieter now. It was between Void and MX and I went with MX.

Edit: My work keeps me in terminal, so all my customisation go there.
 
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