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ninoregen

ninoregen

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Whipped up this build after extensive research. Any recommendations or changes?

Major considerations/reasonings:
- Case: have shortlisted either the king 95 pro or the mentioned lian li o11 vision; planning to use this current config for 5+ years and the looks are a major consideration; can be changed if a better looking rec comes along :)
- CPU: was planning to go for the 7800x3d, but it was blowing my budget; 7600x seemed like the next sensible choice; please guide with better deals, if any
- GPU: want to go really high-end; want to stay in team red; RDNA5 might come around by the time I'll complete the build so the 7800 XT is a placeholder; prepared to go into the used market
- AIO: it gets pretty hot in summers where I live, even with air conditioning, and i live on the 3rd floor; seems like a reasonable area to invest in; guide if unnecessary
- Motherboard: the one thing I really REALLY want advice regarding; practically scanned all of youtube because I want to get it right; have delved even into the VRM performance/thermals; selected this one via a Hardware Unboxed recommendation; advise regarding better value; baked in wi-fi support is a must
- Peripherals: still have a pretty neat Acer Nitro panel from like 5 years ago; KB/M isn't a priority as of now

This would be my first ever build so I want to do it mostly right. Main purpose of posting this here instead of just going forward with it is to get advice from experienced members regarding compatibility/upgradability oversights (if any), and further optimizations/better value parts
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Speaking of the motherboard, I think you could get away with this. It'll help you save 3k.

Buy ASRock B650M HDV/M.2 Motherboard

ASRock B650M HDV/M.2 Motherboard provides the users AMD Socket AM5 Ryzen 7000 Series Processors with supporting PCI Express 4.0 standard. Supports DDR5 7200+ MHz (OC)
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It's also something that HUB recommends in his video, or at least his website does.
www.techspot.com

AMD B650 Motherboard Roundup: 35 Motherboards Tested

We can finally present to you the results of our extensive AMD B650 motherboard roundup. It's been a massive undertaking that took several months to test 35...
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Btw, I'm also about to build a PC for the first time. If you want, you can have a look at the build I whipped up a while ago.
https://pcpricetracker.in/b/s/b2f5846d-329f-4883-8a0d-e2a849b697b4 (I have to upgrade the monitor). The 7700xt is still a placeholder as my build would happen when RDNA4 comes out.
 
ninoregen said:
Whipped up this build after extensive research. Any recommendations or changes?

Major considerations/reasonings:
- Case: have shortlisted either the king 95 pro or the mentioned lian li o11 vision; planning to use this current config for 5+ years and the looks are a major consideration; can be changed if a better looking rec comes along :)
- CPU: was planning to go for the 7800x3d, but it was blowing my budget; 7600x seemed like the next sensible choice; please guide with better deals, if any
- GPU: want to go really high-end; want to stay in team red; RDNA5 might come around by the time I'll complete the build so the 7800 XT is a placeholder; prepared to go into the used market
- AIO: it gets pretty hot in summers where I live, even with air conditioning, and i live on the 3rd floor; seems like a reasonable area to invest in; guide if unnecessary
- Motherboard: the one thing I really REALLY want advice regarding; practically scanned all of youtube because I want to get it right; have delved even into the VRM performance/thermals; selected this one via a Hardware Unboxed recommendation; advise regarding better value; baked in wi-fi support is a must
- Peripherals: still have a pretty neat Acer Nitro panel from like 5 years ago; KB/M isn't a priority as of now

This would be my first ever build so I want to do it mostly right. Main purpose of posting this here instead of just going forward with it is to get advice from experienced members regarding compatibility/upgradability oversights (if any), and further optimizations/better value parts
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Some needful additions.

- forgot to add fans to the build as the aforementioned Lian Li case doesn't come with any, but the total price will more or less even out due to the placeholder GPU
- *RDNA 4 not 5, the excitement got to me
 

gtx10606gig said:
Speaking of the motherboard, I think you could get away with this. It'll help you save 3k.

Buy ASRock B650M HDV/M.2 Motherboard

ASRock B650M HDV/M.2 Motherboard provides the users AMD Socket AM5 Ryzen 7000 Series Processors with supporting PCI Express 4.0 standard. Supports DDR5 7200+ MHz (OC)
mdcomputers.in mdcomputers.in

It's also something that HUB recommends in his video, or at least his website does.
www.techspot.com

AMD B650 Motherboard Roundup: 35 Motherboards Tested

We can finally present to you the results of our extensive AMD B650 motherboard roundup. It's been a massive undertaking that took several months to test 35...
www.techspot.com www.techspot.com

Btw, I'm also about to build a PC for the first time. If you want, you can have a look at the build I whipped up a while ago.
https://pcpricetracker.in/b/s/b2f5846d-329f-4883-8a0d-e2a849b697b4 (I have to upgrade the monitor). The 7700xt is still a placeholder as my build would happen when RDNA4 comes out.
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great board but as I mentioned, baked in wi-fi is a non negotiable; struggled to find anything cheaper with wifi, good VRM performance and above average IO hence went with my pick; if I were less picky about the wi-fi then I'd probably get the hdv/m.2

thanks for replying nonetheless; best of luck for your build!
 

Tweaked the parts, is now R5 7600 + 7900GRE. It is easy to OC 7900GRE by 10%, I own the same Pulse model. Also, the selected mobo has 3x M.2 slots vs 2x M.2 in most mobos. A dual tower dual fan air cooler is more than enough for even 7800X3D. I'm assuming your rig is for gaming.

For used GPUs, drop to 3060Ti for 16-17k or 6700XT for 19-20k. Beyond that price doesn't make sense IMO. Like people are selling used 3080 12GB or 3080Ti for close to 40k. A new 7800XT is 48k for similar raster performance but with more VRAM.

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DeepCool AG620 Air Cooler Review: Great Performance, Reasonable Value

With a reasonable price of only $55 USD, DeepCool’s AG620 offers a good air cooling value. But you may be bothered by its fan pitch at top speed.
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Just for reference how close good air coolers are to AIO. So with a 200W CPU like 7950X, you will run at 90C but with minimal performance loss because of the 200W cap.

You can add the 14k expensive case or something cheaper, your call. Even with the 14k case it is cheaper than your initial rig while being better overall.
 
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- the 7900 gre is probably the one I'll get, waiting for discounts/something to hit the used market; for reference, there's this 6900xt currently on gamenation for 39k and there was also a 7800xt going for 41k; don't really know about the reliability/trustworthiness of these sites; don't really want a team green gpu, don't care much for dlss/rt; I'd rather have the better raw rasterization of an AMD GPU

https://gamenation.in/Products/PCCo...0XT-16GB-Nitro+-OC?Age=PreOwned&a=2862&b=3354

- two M.2 slots are probably more than enough for me personally, so I'd prefer the better VRM performance and the IO of the previous mobo

- the cooler though, that's something I'll definitely look into; just went with the best AIO because of the aforementioned reasons; will probably get a very good air cooler for half the price

thanks for replying!
 
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OMEGA44-XT said:

Tweaked the parts, is now R5 7600 + 7900GRE. It is easy to OC 7900GRE by 10%, I own the same Pulse model. Also, the selected mobo has 3x M.2 slots vs 2x M.2 in most mobos. A dual tower dual fan air cooler is more than enough for even 7800X3D. I'm assuming your rig is for gaming.

For used GPUs, drop to 3060Ti for 16-17k or 6700XT for 19-20k. Beyond that price doesn't make sense IMO. Like people are selling used 3080 12GB or 3080Ti for close to 40k. A new 7800XT is 48k for similar raster performance but with more VRAM.

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www.tomshardware.com

DeepCool AG620 Air Cooler Review: Great Performance, Reasonable Value

With a reasonable price of only $55 USD, DeepCool’s AG620 offers a good air cooling value. But you may be bothered by its fan pitch at top speed.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
Just for reference how close good air coolers are to AIO. So with a 200W CPU like 7950X, you will run at 90C but with minimal performance loss because of the 200W cap.

You can add the 14k expensive case or something cheaper, your call. Even with the 14k case it is cheaper than your initial rig while being better overall.
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Just FYI - Cooler Master Hyper 620S has lower clearance for RAM vs AG620. That's why i went with AG620 as it was not enough for my ram. So check ram clearance.
Verify, but cooler clearance is 38mm.
ofc, we can always move the fan up a bit and for 7600 it shouldn't matter much.

15k AIO for 20k cpu makes no sense to me unless you want to buy it for some other reasons. Instead can get better cpu/something else + undervolt + set temp or power limits and you wont lose much.
Last bit of performance for cpu/gpu is generally very inefficient for both power usage and thermals. Eco mode will probably work well too.
And AIOs i think have limited lifespan + has small risk of leaking ( Never used one though ).
 
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Tracer_Bullet said:
Just FYI - Cooler Master Hyper 620S has lower clearance for RAM vs AG620. That's why i went with AG620 as it was not enough for my ram. So check ram clearance.
Verify, but cooler clearance is 38mm.
ofc, we can always move the fan up a bit and for 7600 it shouldn't matter much.

15k AIO for 20k cpu makes no sense to me unless you want to buy it for some other reasons. Instead can get better cpu/something else + undervolt + set temp or power limits and you wont lose much.
Last bit of performance for cpu/gpu is generally very inefficient for both power usage and thermals. Eco mode will probably work well too.
And AIOs i think have limited lifespan + has small risk of leaking ( Never used one though ).
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was just looking for the best delta t performance due to the climate and all that, plus not really planning on upgrading basic parts like the CPUC hence went with the best AIO on the market (faintly remember TH recommending this particular Lian Li AIO, not sure though)

agree with all of your points, it is definitely an overspend right now but something that I plan to use later on with a much more capable processor

afa undervolting goes, not really planning to unless my power bill goes out of hand
 
ninoregen said:
was just looking for the best delta t performance due to the climate and all that, plus not really planning on upgrading basic parts like the CPUC hence went with the best AIO on the market (faintly remember TH recommending this particular Lian Li AIO, not sure though)

agree with all of your points, it is definitely an overspend right now but something that I plan to use later on with a much more capable processor

afa undervolting goes, not really planning to unless my power bill goes out of hand
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Tone down on the GPU & get 7800X3D or you're gonna regret later. 9800X3D is gonna be costly and will be a long time before the prices come down and Intel will roll out Arrow Lake by then.

You won't need to upgrade 7800X3D for the next 5 years and its TDP & perf-per-watt is literally unbeatable. Its like the 1080Ti of CPUs.
 
ninoregen said:
afa undervolting goes, not really planning to unless my power bill goes out of hand
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undervolting reduces temperature too, with no performance loss. Can even lead to performance gains if you increase clocks / or by higher boost clocks. You dont need to reduce power usage if you dont want and go for overclock + undervolt.

If temperature is a concern, then undervolting and power limits/temperature limits can easily manage it with small or no perf loss ( depending on what you want).
That is what i meant, do that + get better cpu instead, but if you are aiming for 7950x and the likes later, then i guess cooler becomes more important ( even those probably can work well in eco mode - dunno)

ninoregen said:
agree with all of your points, it is definitely an overspend right now but something that I plan to use later on with a much more capable processor
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Makes sense if you are going for a very power hungry processor for work stuff i guess. Or if you just feel like it, i understand. I did same by going for 7800x3d instead of 7600.

But If this is for gaming only and you are spending anyway then even better go for 7800x3d and air cooler. I use that + AG620 - its overkill for my gpu but will save me hassles in future. It hardly uses any power so doesnt need high end coolers. I undervolted it and set temp limit on it and it runs slightly better than stock.

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Tracer_Bullet said:
But If this is for gaming only and you are spending anyway then even better go for 7800x3d and air cooler. I use that + AG620 - its overkill for my gpu but will save me hassles in future. It hardly uses any power so doesnt need high end coolers. I undervolted it and set temp limit on it and it runs slightly better than stock.
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what kind of temps do you have in your case and have you tried to stress the cpu outside your case/open air kinda situation if you have tried that?
just curious btw wanted to know what kinda temps ag620 can get on a 7800x3d
 
ThatsSe7en said:
what kind of temps do you have in your case and have you tried to stress the cpu outside your case/open air kinda situation if you have tried that?
just curious btw wanted to know what kinda temps ag620 can get on a 7800x3d
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7800x3d does not transfer heat easily to IHS, so any decent cooler should probably be more than enough, It produces very little heat.
But core temps do rise to 89 on some types of multi threaded workload pretty easily. Gaming temps would generally be lower.

I use a temp limit of 79C + some undervolting and its slightly faster than stock in cinebench. There is very little reason to use default 89C limit as there is very little performance gain.
see my thread above for more details, i had also written about what temps i had in stock settings. Have not tested on open bench.

This is a very crazy efficient chip for gaming. Or another way of saying is that AMD could not send too much power to it so its efficient + extra cache is great for gaming.

Case temps are largely due to gpu load ( 3080 ) and temps also depend on ambient + case airflow + amount of heat getting pushed out etc.
I generally go for lower heat / mid fanspeed / lower power and try to be optimal in performance vs power/heat. I have Lian li 216.

Was just playing Doom eternal with 225w gpu power limit. cpu max 76C. Case and VRM max is around 56C. Ambient around 31C.
 
Yes, i have tried AIO twice and always came back to Air coolers....heck this time i tried a 4 heat pipe air cooler and to my surprise my 5900x didn't heatup beyond 90c and here i was expecting it to cross 95 easily and throttle down.
 
Panda said:
Tone down on the GPU & get 7800X3D or you're gonna regret later. 9800X3D is gonna be costly and will be a long time before the prices come down and Intel will roll out Arrow Lake by then.

You won't need to upgrade 7800X3D for the next 5 years and its TDP & perf-per-watt is literally unbeatable. Its like the 1080Ti of CPUs.
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Initially planned a build with the 7800x3d but got too expensive, researched a bit and the 7600x seemed plenty powerful for moderate gaming here and there

9800x3d will probably be better and more expensive, so I guess ultimately I'll upgrade to that sometime in the morning future

Tracer_Bullet said:
Makes sense if you are going for a very power hungry processor for work stuff i guess. Or if you just feel like it, i understand. I did same by going for 7800x3d instead of 7600.
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The timeframe for this build is probably sometime early next year, both the GPU and CPU are placeholders but for different reasons; the GPU is just there for the price but I selected the 7600x because I knew I could get away with it but would it be ideal with this current setup. The 7800x3d was always my first choice, however as with multiple other components, it blew my budget
 
ninoregen said:
Initially planned a build with the 7800x3d but got too expensive, researched a bit and the 7600x seemed plenty powerful for moderate gaming here and there

9800x3d will probably be better and more expensive, so I guess ultimately I'll upgrade to that sometime in the morning future


The timeframe for this build is probably sometime early next year, both the GPU and CPU are placeholders but for different reasons; the GPU is just there for the price but I selected the 7600x because I knew I could get away with it but would it be ideal with this current setup. The 7800x3d was always my first choice, however as with multiple other components, it blew my budget
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7600 is the logical choice at less than half the price. 7800x3d seems to be getting more expensive ( i bought for 36k) and 7600 is getting cheaper ( was ~20k when i was looking, now i think it went below 15k).
Even when i was buying 7600 was more logical, but i had some use for it in work too where more cores will help, and i wanted to avoid upgrade for longer. Gpus around performance of 7800xt/3080/gre etc wont be cpu bottle necked by 7600 most of the time.

Upto you, but in same way i don't think liquid coolers are worth it for either 7600 or 7800x3d. Much better to put that money into gpu, so something like what OMEGA44-XT listed.
But in the end, its ok if you 'want' it.
 
Tracer_Bullet said:
Upto you, but in same way i don't think liquid coolers are worth it for either 7600 or 7800x3d. Much better to put that money into gpu, so something like what OMEGA44-XT listed.
But in the end, its ok if you 'want' it.
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Yes I'm definitely more inclined to use an air cooler now, at the very least I'll try a cheaper AIO instead of the galahad and then bump either of my cpu or gpu up a tier. I'll probably settle on a upper mid range RDNA 4 card and the 9800x3d maybe because the 7800x3d as you mentioned is stupid expensive rn. Was seeing it at 41k a few days back but can't even find a singular listing now. Guess the 9800 is coming this month
 
I recently bought
7600x CPU - 19550
Msi B650s wifi - 14500
G skills 600hz 16gb - 4900
Master liquid 240l nonrgb - 4970

All from Computec, hope this helps
 
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