Budget 90k+ Performance limited by the Apple M1 — more cores, faster cores, or back to x86?

rsaeon

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A few quick questions — I seem to be hitting the performance limits of the Apple M1 in my mac mini a lot more often these days and I'm considering something faster/better.

Has anyone else managed to max out their Apple silicon based computer? Do you live with it or upgrade?

Do I get more cores with the M1/M2 that are maybe 10% faster in single thread performance?

Or do I stay with the same or a little more number of cores with M3 that is about 25% faster?

Or do I set up a separate x86 linux compute box for the more cpu intensive tasks I have?

x86 would have to be Ryzen 7000/Intel 13th or better because the 5900X was slower.

I don't know if it's impressive or horrific but this is what a few hours of my days is like:

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(encoding/optimizing videos/photos)



  1. What is your budget?
    • Around 100K to 150K, the lower the better, have too many emi's already
  2. What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)
    • M1 mac mini
  3. Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)
    • Everything
  4. Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.
    • Another Apple computer (desktop or laptop) or CPU + Motherboard + Memory
  5. Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component
    • Not looking to upgrade anything after this purchase for at least 2 years
  6. Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)
    • Amazon India
  7. What is your intended use for this PC/hardware
    • Editing Photos/Videos
  8. Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.
    • None
  9. If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?
    • None
  10. What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage
    1. Not relevant
  11. Are you looking to overclock?
    • Absolutely not
  12. Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
    • macOS or Debian
 
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Looks like Apple ecosystem is limited by the number of cores. (At least at the relevant price points)

If your workload is lightly threaded, fast M3/M4 maybe the way. If well multi threaded, a 16 core 7950X running at 150W PPT would wipe the floor, with potential used deals on HW too!!
 
In case you want to just upgrade your Mac mini, there are rumours of new mac mini with M4 and minimum 16 gb ram which is rumored to launch within this month itself.

That sounds promising, I think I'll wait until then.

Looks like Apple ecosystem is limited by the number of cores. (At least at the relevant price points)

I really would want something with the M3 (or better) because the single-threaded performance of anything else just doesn't seem any better and a lot of my image optimizing scripts rely heavily on single-threaded performance. Also, it's not a fun club to be in (cost conscious apple user).

If well multi threaded, a 16 core 7950X running at 150W PPT would wipe the floor, with potential used deals on HW too!!

Ha, yeah, I was pleasantly surprised with how affordable (what?!) the 16 core processors were — when compared to this upgraded mac mini. A 9950X, board, and memory should fit in whatever credit limit I have left.

You should be using gpu for video encoding ? Utilise NVENC? Or maybe intel gfx card no?

Ideally, yes, but with videos I'm generating captions and translating them (so it's more like audio work).
 
Where were you five years ago? Ha, thanks for the reminder. This animated infographic haunts me:

It really makes a difference. In my case it (+ family support ) allowed me to exit IT ( burned out of it, got very boring) and have an extended period ( 5 + years) of no income until i finally could make my current profession work.

So, it could mean an early retirement, or less stress against uncertainty etc etc.
Anyway, two sides to it always. I could be dead tomorrow and all money made and not spent was for nothing.
So some kind of balance and/or very high income should allow both spending and saving.
Good luck.
 
I think I have had the same predicament as you on the windows side though. Have mostly used many laptops with U series processors(Intel 6th gen, 10th gen, ryzen 4800u-8c/16t) and have been starved of performance or battery or both. Eventually was fed up and just decided to retire both my many laptops and my gaming desktop.
  • For CPU, I jumped like most to MiniPC - Minisforum UM780XTX - Ryzen 7840HS (8C/16T 5.1GHz)- dead silent on full load. Even my gaming laptops used to cry in front of android studio and IDEs, this doesn't. I get 8C/16T, twin Gen 4 m.2 slots, upto 92 gb ram and oculink port and the ability to take it to work when I need. Cost - 50k
  • For gaming (1440p), i just DIY'ed an oculink eGPU with RX 6800 and I connect it to the above mini PC for gaming when I have to game. Cost - 32k
  • For laptop, now that my compute needs are met, I realised I can get a thin-and-light laptop with other fun stuff (touch, pen, lightweight) as long as I am willing to go with a crappy processor. Got a used Thinkpad X1 Yoga Gen5. Only 1.3 kg, its build like a tank. Love the 2 in1 feature for reading books,youtubing on bed and drawing architecture during teams meeting and just taking it anywhere. Cost - 35k
Enjoying the monolithic-to-microservices shift to personal computing. May not be applicable to you as you are on Apple side, but sharing my two cents.
 

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