Android v/s iOS - 2021

I haven’t used iOs in a very long time, so don’t know what has changed or become better.
When I choose to attach a file in gmail, even in Android, it goes to the metadata option at first only. I am guessing hierarchical method is preferred by people like me whose storage is completely cluttered. For example, all my files are in the download folder and nothing in other folders. Apart from my music collection which is properly categorized and synced with my laptop over wifi by using an old app (not supported supposedly by latest android, but works flawlessly), everything is haphazard. One would think, metadata based browsing would be perfect for someone like me, but I still prefer searching through and arranging my files when I want to. I am guessing, the main problem people have is not about whether iOs metadata based browsing works or not. People like me just want to have the choice to choose. Why should Apple or any other company decide that for us. Again, I don’t really know what changes have happened over the years, so I’ll let others chime in.
This reason about choice is why I had to sell off my first iPad within 3 days of buying it and after spending 2k on softwares trying to get something specific to work. I wanted to play a video file stored on my laptop, on the iPad. At that time (I think it was the 4th gen iPad), Apple wouldn’t allow local playback of video files and one had to have a server side app installed which would do the actual playback using the laptop’s resources. I think I even had a thread here on TE about that and the conclusion was that nothing could be done, because Apple had decided that it would somehow make their experience less polished. So this lack of choice and freedom is the most irritating thing that can make one despise iOS despite the other good factors about it.

P. S. - I’ve had this happen with me that people fail to see the point I’ve made and start responding by saying how one can play a video now etc. That is not my point. The point, again, for people who might miss it, is that the same feature was available on Android even 2 years prior to when I bought the iPad. And the main point being that Apple chose not to give the freedom of choice to their buyers just because they had this notion that it would diminish the user experience. This methodology of theirs of not providing even basic functionality just because they felt that it wouldn’t be needed or whatever reason they felt, is why it makes it very difficult for someone like me who is a long time android user to switch to an Apple device.

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My only argument would be that the android phones /crome books /windows laptops vs apple are much more expensive for similar feature sets .
Comparing displays , software experience and proprietary vs open source one can wonder why apple phones are much more value .
I am not an apple user since i prefer a low end android as i keep slipping my phone and replacing every 6 months . so no I am not a fan boy .

ios file browser is getting better as others mentioned… but still it is not easy as android. For example, handling of compressed files or files from NAS is painful in iPhone. In Android i can simply select external utility like solid explorer to get the files from NAS.

Another thing, being in India, Microsoft SMS app and truecaller is god send. As long as it’s not supported, iPhone will be a secondary device for people like me(mainly used as remote for Apple TV ;))

Regarding missing T9 dialer, i think Apple users are fine/happy with spotlight search which is almost easy as T9 option. Of course i do not know why ios dialer has alphabets :roll_eyes:

Another thing i hate is, how long they will go on without usb-c… This is a company which supposed to make more user friendly!

Many things that you have mentioned are specific to you and does not apply to an average mobile user. ex. syncing mobile with pc, side loading, automation, etc. But there are alternatives to some of these use cases in iOS.

1) Limited File Management Capabilities -** You need to save files to find it later. **what’s this?. obviously in any OS, one has to save files to find it later. if you don’t save it, it won’t be there to find it later.

  1. Easy Sharing of Files between Devices - one case use Airdrop with Mac or use iCloud Drive with windows.

  2. Fingerprint Sensor - its nowhere proved that Face ID is not secure. moreover, Face ID is fare more convenient to use than fingerprint. its as if you don’t know its there.

  3. Lack of FOSS Apps - I haven’t bought any apps on IOS so far. I use free apps and apple provided apps. for KeepassDX, apple provides their own keychain password manager and it works with windows as well. Safari is quite good for a browser and with iOS 15 it supports extensions. I don’t feel the default keyboard as insufficient anyways that I have to download another keyboard app in Ios.

9) Poor Battery & Slow Charging - I used Samsung s9+ which is the flagship at that time. I used to charge my phone at least twice a day. moved to iPhone 11 and I charge it once a day or once in 2 days.

  1. Limited Automation Capabilities - the default shortcuts app is very powerful. I wouldn’t want any app to change systems settings or its access permissions. its the most dangerous thing to allow in an OS. From my personal experience, I know of many android apps which on installation won’t work when some of the permissions are denied. Some change their own permission temporarily or use workarounds to bypass the denied permissions and gather data like most dialled contact, sms dump, call log dump, information about other apps the user uses, etc.

There are quite a few flaws in this argument, don’t take it the wrong way but let me point them out.

1 **Limited File Management Capabilities- **This is common for those who have a NAS preferably, you may need to store data locally to search it instead of using the drive immediately, same thing for external pendrives. The indepth per folder search like android is definitely not available here, say the Whatsapp folder is not there so all documents related to whatsapp wont go there, you need to save it to something else that may create its own folder

  1. Easy Sharing of Files between Devices - Not convenient if there are large files or you’re on the move and travel, has happened to me too while I was travelling in Singapore and the internet there was expensive and horrible. (Was a family vacation so lots of photos, videos were on the device). Especially not convenient at all if you have Windows, what youre suggesting is a work around not a true solution. Instead of jumping through hoops connect a cable and transfer the data, thats always much more simple and faster.
  1. Fingerprint Sensor - We are now in Pandemic days and the no mask rule wont be coming in any time soon, so we are going to live with covid. With that in mind, while I am on the travel I find pulling my mask everytime really annoying. A fingerprint scanner would have solved all of those issues. You could have both options fingerprint and face scanner but its not there.

  2. Lack of FOSS Apps - Lots of organisations use their own inhouse authentication software’s nothing new some of them based on open source some not, the main point being a user shouldnt be subjected to use a particular app even if they dont like it if options are available you should be free to use it, keychain has been pretty buggy and doesnt register quite a few times but does work well if you are in the apple ecosystem.

**9) Poor Battery & Slow Charging - **I can attest to this, I don’t know about your use case but I have used a iPhone 6s, currently using the 8 Plus and for a really small time the 4s. The phone youre referring to the 11 even when it came out used a 720p screen (for reference the 8 plus is 1080p) and I dont know if you bought it in 2019 itself but even around me I have seen lots of people have horrible battery backup after a year or 2 of use. I have already given an example of something like the M31 which I think after years of use of an 8 Plus makes you think on what you are missing out on (have made an comment in this thread itself do let me know your feedback!)

Again I am not bashing you, but we need to keep an open mind while using a phone after all these companies at the end care about their margins first never the actual user first so lets treat it that way!

If a hardcore iPhone user asks he wants to try Android, which phone would people with more knowledge (about android) can recommend? I am not trying to switch but curious what would I switch to if I decide or plan or just want get my feet wet.

Obviously this means, don’t want to be bombarded with spurious ads and unnecessary bloatware and even if there is, I should be able to delete and please don’t go custom ROM route as I have no interest in doing all that.

Budget? If you don’t want to go the custom rom route, get any latest Samsung phone with non-Exynos SoC - M32 5G, M52 5G, S20 FE 5G etc.

Edit: how did I forget Pixel!! @@rdst_1 has better recommendation. Pixel is a better buy at ₹25k

Safest bet would be a Pixel device. Stock, zippy Android OS with regular and long update cycle, something which Apple users are usually fond of.

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A friend bought a used super mint condition pixel 3 for 16.5k I think, After using S21 ultra fold 2/3 I was like Dam this phone looks super sexy and sleek… Was in love with it. Thinking of buying one for myself just to play with it.

I wish Google didn’t give step motherly treatment to India when releasing Google phones.