Reviving a Dead MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II Motherboard

Continuing the discussion from Help, I cleaned my pc and now it's not turning on:

This got my hopes up and I was able to initiate a bios flashback which ended after ten minutes with three long beeps.

I’m not sure what means, usually three beeps means memory. So I installed memory and cpu.

I’m able to boot the system if I disconnect power and remove the bios battery but it powers off after a few seconds and doesn’t turn back on again unless if I cut power for another 5 mins and then the same thing repeats.

Sounds like something died?

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this behavior i have seen in power/reset short in old PC cases. Remove all cables from mobo and try.

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Yep, did that yesterday because I knew it wasn’t going to be easy.

I was able to initiate a second bios flash:

leds are pretty:

So far this is what I have to do to get any sign of life:

Turn off power at the wall
Wait at least 5 minutes
Turn on power at the wall

Then if there’s no ram, I get three long beeps and it stays on

If there’s ram, then there’s just silence and it turns off after a few seconds

Either way, I can’t power it on again without turning off power at the wall for 5 mins

I’ve never seen this behaviour before.

The board chipset seems to be dead. Did you try another cpu / ram stick?

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MSI India will repair out of warranty MSI boards on chargeable basis

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Yes, was going to suggestion this. The last I checked it was around 350 rupees for diagnosis for B450 mobo. You have to add shipping cost to that if the service center is not near you.

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Know Any one repairing ASROCK boards ?

It seems like tripping a hardware power fault when DRAM/SoC rails start up (very likely a bad VRM stage or its control/sensing circuitry). This is most probably not a BIOS problem.

Unplugged PSU then power drain MB. Measure resistance to ground on the DRAM VDD rail and the SoC rail. If you get single-digit ohms it’s likely a shorted MOSFET or shorted load. If you get tens of ohms or more it’s likely a VRM controller/power-good/current-sense failure.

Either way, it seems a hardware level fault and not fixable without rework. Better get it RMAed if you don’t want to buy new one.

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I’m seeing very strange behaviour.

With a Ryzen 1700, I finally got it to post with the graphics card in a chipset slot. It refused to post in the main x16 slot.

But I tried after this, and it posted just fine, with a graphics card in the main slot.

But then with a 5600G, there’s no POST. Not without a graphics card, not with one, doesn’t matter which slot I put it in.

The CPU debug led lights up with the 5600G.

Same 5600G boots fine in a different motherboard.

It feels like some vrm somewhere went kaput.

This should be under warranty, but I have multiple units — how do I know which one this is? I can’t find a serial number on the motherboard anywhere.

I am facing similar issue with an asus x570 board. Works with 3400g, won’t boot with R5 2600

MSi has some special test software to check if their motherboards are working correctly. I tried searching for it on the internet but had no luck.

These are pics they sent to me when I sent my mobo in because it was not keeping time even with a new battery. Turned out that the quartz crystal had to be replaced in my case.

If anyone knows what software this is or were to get it. Please let us / me know.

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That means you were effectively bypassing the CPU PCIe root complex path. That support my understanding of a failing SoC/CPU-side power or signalling path on the motherboard
(not chipset, GPU or CPU).

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AFAIK it’s MSI’s internal factory/production test tool, used for factory and refurb validation. You (most probably) won’t find any publicly available download.

Update, I read a post on reddit where someone had the same problem, cpu debug led with a 5600G with this exact motherboard. Changing the ram had solved the problem for them.

I tried four different sticks of ram.

No luck.

I lost an MSI B450M PRO-VDH a few years ago with the CPU debug LED popping up after I had cleaned the system (I think? Not sure.). I replaced my Ryzen 5 1600 with a 5600x, thinking it had gone kaput, but no luck, as the terrifying LED remained. Ended up replacing the board, which worked. I gave away the mobo to a fellow member who wanted to try and repair it, and we had the following convo.

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Did you try different processor with integrated graphics?