Which countries are better for tech professionals to relocate to, considering job opportunities, salaries, quality of life, and policies?
It’s the India who is faking the GDP data. It’s very well known. [1](’
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). When the current Govt came to power, they changed how the GDP was measured. It’s very much like how this govt faked that India became polio free.
Na. Your numbers don’t add up. You didn’t consider FDI outflow. I showed you. You should talk about net FDI and not just FDI inflow. And, it’s going down as per the Govt source I quoted.
I’m confused. Are you talking about India being powerless or China?
It was India who lost land around Galwan to China and chose to look meek. What’s happening with current confrontation with Trump? It’s the Indians who are being humiliated at every turn. I wonder what late Vajpayi did when the Pakistani army took Kargil? Did he give a clean chit to Pakistan? I was in India when that conflict took place. It was prideful moment for Indians when the leader of the country stood up for the country they are serving.
Nobody is taking shit from Trump and China except our guy. Weak af.
What good is the internal economy without our imports?
Will India function without Oil?
What will the Indian tech sector would do if they can’t get the hardware?
What will agriculture do if they can’t import fertilizers?
What will Indian pharma do if they can’t get raw material from China?
There is no domestic economy without our imports. And, you can’t pay for imports with INR.
No, my friend, it’s you who don’t understand this. We can’t sustain paying for imports by robbing our people or by depreciating the currency. It simply doesn’t work. No matter how much INR depreciates, you still have to pay for the imports with USD.
High taxes are driving people to leave this country. How much do you want to increase? FIIs are also fleeing with their USDs as they have to pay capital gains tax, which many countries don’t charge.
This Govt’s current jagged is to purchase Russian oil for cheap and flip it for profits. India was never known for oil exports. But that’s what’s going on right now. India is literally sponsoring Russia for its Ukraine invasion. It’s the blood money that’s sitting in RBI coffers.
Food is not a high-value commodity. Developed countries don’t focus on that, as it’s a waste of land and other resources. The ROI is super low. Developed countries let poorer countries farm for them.
Maybe, as you said, only 10% of land in China is arable. But did you know it’s also 3 times bigger than India? However, they put more technology, and research into it.
When it comes to farming, India is an outlier as it has the Gangetic plains which are rated to be the top most fertile lands in the world. But still, Indian farmers are poor. The food point is moot.
That sounds like Alex Jones. Who’s saying the Chinese economy is broken and Indian is doing better?
The share market, although not a direct marker, is still a good indicator of how an economy is doing. You should check the numbers.
Alright, enlighten me. What part of internal consumption can be fueled without USD paid imports?
Are we an isolated country like North Korea?
Avoid all imported products for a few days and see if you can live better than a North Korean.
Like I showed you, 25k in 2010 are worth 1.5L in 2025.
There is a thing called inflation. You have many relatives in Govt. Allow me to explain it to you more easily.
The Govt sets pay commission every decade. For 7th pay commission, which was about 10 years ago, the fitment factor was 2.5x. Meaning, salaries got multiplied by 2.5x. Now we are due with the 8th one. This one is around 2.8x. If you calculate, the Govt salaries got hiked by 5x in the past 15 years. This is close to my calculations.
I’m not suggesting how much the private sector should pay its freshers. Let the free market decide that. All I showed you was, today’s engineer freshers are making the same amount of money that society watchman made in 2010.
Neither do you, even the govt. admitted it indirectly that things are getting bad when they reduced taxes for everyone earning below 12 lpa with the hopes of boosting consumer spending. Nirmala aunty is also contemplating reducing GST rates and slabs atm.
Unfortunately it’s a little too late, most middle class people are overly cautious with unnecessary spending, as it is prices of everything have steadily increased while wages have largely remained stagnant.
This feels like similar to japan situation.
Believe it or not people come from outside to get their treatment in India. India is the best bang-for-buck country for healthcare right now. Govt. is also providing pension, free medicine through dispensary, free (to a limit) healthcare for its govt. employees.
What aliens are we talking about ? Those who come illegally can’t get proper job without identification. They take whatever job they can but those aren’t in high demand anyway. These are mostly unskilled construction works.
BSNL is trash (Although getting better, slowly slowly) but there are other network providers. I will agree on one thing here though, If govt. doesn’t do something and make BSNL as reliable as its competitors they are wasting resources while competitors are becoming grown too big to defeat. Anyone 'member those days when there were so many mobile network providers? Aircel, Vodafone, Idea, Tata DoCoMo, Videocon, Now there’s literally 4 left lol. Either they merged or got acquired and dismantled.
BTW govt. bought 1/4 portion of Vodafone Idea in 2023 so at least they are trying to do something it seems like.
Everything else I completely (and sadly) agree with you. The issues are so big that if govt. did managed to rectify them it will take years (or even decades) before we start to see the results. Things have gone too bad for too long.
We were aligning with existing global norm. China’s GDP figures are totally fake.
Trtworld? Is an anti-India bloody Turkish source. One notch better than al jazeera that should be considered as enemy media. Are you this desperate to make your point?
Since when did FDI become understood as net? And outflow. Lol.
Who is investing in this country and how much. That is what FDI means.
This government gets full marks for consistently attracting FDI since 2014. You opposition sources dare not mention it because it does not suit their narrative.
Read my comment again
No, India didn’t lose any land. What China did was block our patrols into land we claim. In other words disputed territory. They didn’t grab any of our land which is not disputed. The opposition has been called out numerous times here for intentionally misleading people.
In the end it was China that withdrew from the fingers area. They dismantled their settlements and retreated back to finger 8. When has the PLA ever been made to retreat? India forced them to do so. Big loss of morale for the PLA right there. So it was the so called army of little emperors PLA that looked meek.
When ever Modi says free hand to the forces. Watch out.
How so?
You are making a false comparison between two events.
China has never been given a clean chit here. China has either been forced to retreat or agreed to do so from numerous areas.
We’ve had numerous agreements which were blatantly violated by the Chinese side.
So we took the peaks around Kailash in Aug 2020. Meaning we had a clear view of the fingers area the PLA were occupying in violation of previous agreements. Implying they were vulnerable to artillery fire from our side. So of course the PLA withdrew in Feb '21 because they realised they were outplayed by us.
All of these actions took place over 18k feet. Only the fittest, most acclimated army can prevail. In the mountains tech does not do much. Only blood & grit matters.
This isn’t anything new btw. The Sumdurong Chu affair was settled in the same way. Grabbing key peaks that put the Chinese at a disadvantage and we’ve held them since.
They tried to capture those peaks in Yangtze in Dec '22. Only to be badly surprised. They thought they could overcome a strength of 50 guarding the peaks with 300 of their own only to discover 450 of our guys waiting. They got a good thrashing and were chased back to their barracks with our side threatening to kill them. Until they fired warning shots and that was the end.
India has the best mountain fighting force in the world. PERIOD. We bested the Paks who we have more respect for in that terrain than some loser PLA conscript kiddies.
Every one has had to negotiate with Trump. And China is going to get it the worst because they have the biggest deficit 
Why would we be in such a situation in the first place? Like the whole world has embargoed us and for WHAT reason again?
Ever since Reliance got into the refinery game, India has been an oil exporter. I’m amazed you don’t know this. How many decades back are we talking here.
Oh my god what is this guy saying. Literally parroting out Uki propaganda.
The foreign minister has rebutted these fake accusations numerous times abroad. He’s rightfully become a rock star in Indian social media as a result. How is it you aren’t aware of any of his replies.
The EU has sponsored the Russian invasion since day 1. If they continue to buy from us they are continuing to do so. We aren’t the only players in this game. And without resorting to such actions we would be paying for a war we had no part in starting.
If you don’t have enough of it your people will not live.
Food security is a big achievement for this country. A half century in the making. Nobody in this country will argue against that.
We have to do what is right for us. I don’t know if a comparison with developed countries is appropriate here.
Where do you see this? Agricultural subsidies are significant whether it be the EU or the US. The two are arguing about that presently since neither is buying from the other at the expense of their own production.
They can’t support their population they have (unlike us) since they have destroyed a good portion of it due to ignorant practices or polluting arable land.
I’m not talking about it from a prosperity pov but from a survival pov. You said if all imports to China were cut then China would still survive. Incorrect. Russia perhaps but China has no chance.
You are not in touch with developments there if you are insinuating CT. I’ve known people talking about thus for the last five years and it’s only in the last two that it’s getting more traction.
Forget share marjet. How about the real estate market in China? Bankrupt
30% of China’s GDP is tied to it
I’ve given you pointers to look for. It got us through the 70s when foreign exchange was hard to come by and everyone was demanding $ to import oil.
I think we have gone off track here. My contention is India isn’t has dependent on exports to support its economy as China.
China is an export driven economy. Any disruption to their exports will adversely affect them much more than us.
If China gets blocked their exports suffer. Ive also pointed out they are very import dependent when it comes to raw materials as that is what they transform into finished goods.
I have read the thread as an overview and i want to refine things. There is nothing wrong in defending the good thing but they are not doing anything for “BETTER”. The good will not last for too long. Time flies in the blink of an eye. I am a simple person, i assume we all are, atleast mostly. and we want things to be simple, quick and easy and in India, everything is complicated as hell.
This is the time, just stop everything. stop doing everything and starts from the basics. Because things that Gov is doing is not working at all.
It’s definitely okay to be behind the Tech and AI. But what about the basics of Life?
- Keeping society clean
- Follow rules, avoid fights or anything doing wrong in public or in private life.
- work as a team in the society
- Work in agriculture and sectors that not required huge funding. There are thousands of small projects can be started like manufacturing clothes and more.
- Disciple in schools and colleges with proper education and freedom to explore creative minds.
- Refine all 4 pillars of democracy.
**Four pillars of democracy is the most important part that will actually teach the people to live better life but the pillars of our home look strong from the outside they are rapidly decaying from within.
There is no future. We will continue to be a slave, To live like insects. This is the reality.**
i would like to add civic sense to this list (that is extend the first point with more civic sense),
and for the topic
if we get these kinds of parents i think gen z,x,y , alpha jo bhi hai, generation would get better or atleast chances would increase by a lot imo
If you look at the first reply on this topic, you will find most of the things i mentioned. this includes indians having -100% ultra pro civic sense.
Why politician are getting offended too much these days. Yes yes I’m talking about Maharashtra CM.
" Speaking in the State Assembly, CM Revanth Reddy suggested that only government-approved journalists should be recognised. He proposed compiling an official list of journalists, warning that those not on the list would be treated as criminals. "
Yes, latest event that I came across : BHU has more seats but denied a dalit student of rank 2.
Though I cannot verify the authenticity of this news item independently.
I genuinely feel we can become the next Singapore atleast the civic level
Progress in one single sector is not enough to call India “Atmanirbhar”. This needs to happen in other sectors as well.
Singapore gained insane wealth and progress because of their geographic location during the global trade boom period. Combine that with how small area-wise the country is and their strict laws we have long time before we can compare India with Singapore. India doesn’t have that kind of luxury nor the citizens are righteous.
Moving abroad when getting chance is very coward like behaviour. Why dont you stay and try helping the nation?
seems like you got triggered. do you think you will not move abroad if you ever get a chance to? I don’t have money or power to help people that are itself want to live like animals. even if i got money and power, i can’t try to help because majority of people of India are bad and will never appreciate anything good given to them.
btw what you are doing to help the nation?
if you think, working for a better life, better future is a coward thing, let’s be it. i am a coward trying to run away from heavy taxes, poor education, no job, reservation, threats.
I will see how you are contributing. maybe that might change my mind.