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mithun said:
For the i20 at sl.no.1 above :
Known owner, low ODO reading, decent pricing, filled to the neck with electronics and features, premium interiors, class leading fit and finish, decent space on offer, worry free (albeit expensive) H.A.S.S.

Against the i20 at sl.no.1 above :
Not the best driver's car out there. Below par handling, vague steering(though good for city puttering), tad underpowered, known niggles(steering rattles, poor A.C., etc.), sub-par fuel efficiency, expensive upkeep, still a hatch.


For the Linea :
A proper sedan, robust built, national diesel engine in an optimal state of tune, delight to drive, diesel economy, looks (subjective), still under warranty, quoted price.

Against the Linea :
Tata A.S.S.!!!
Then the others : below par interiors, poor fit and finish, not as new as the i20, unknown owner, needs a thorough service history check.
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Okay, so its between that
Hyundai i20 ( 2010, sportz petrol, 8K kms)
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Fiat Linea (jan 2011, active diesel, 38K kms)

Also, I just got off the phone with Fiat Customer care, they recently opened a FIAT only service center here in Kolkata ( no tie-ups with TATA), called the service center up, they said they have most of the parts in stock for linea, and if anything if needed, they can get it in a maximum of 7-14 days.

So, does that changes the picture here?
 
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mutant said:
So, does that changes the picture here?
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Yes, from a known horrendously poor A.S.S. to an unknown new A.S.S.

The particular advantage that comes to my mind would be that since FIAT cars did not manage numbers, the exclusive A.S.S. would be less crowded and thus more attention/time can be devoted to the cars that come for servicing. If FIAT is serious about selling anything other than diesel engines in India, you should have a good experience. I still feel that the reason why Tata A.S.S. falters is mainly because of excessive workload on service personnels (Tata QC be blamed) and the cab drivers/ operators who creates a ruckus at the earliest opportunity and forces the service centre staff to stoop down to their levels, ultimately, only managing to ruin the experience of private customers.

Also, do not fear unavailability of spares till atleast after 5-7 years of discontinuation of a particular model, and that Multijet diesel engine / FIAT drivetrain is here to stay for the next decade atleast, with or without FIAT cars, courtesy TAMO and MSIL.

Also, the Linea would fare much better for your weekend getaways.
 
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mithun said:
Yes, from a known horrendously poor A.S.S. to an unknown new A.S.S.

The particular advantage that comes to my mind would be that since FIAT cars did not manage numbers, the exclusive A.S.S. would be less crowded and thus more attention/time can be devoted to the cars that come for servicing. If FIAT is serious about selling anything other than diesel engines in India, you should have a good experience. I still feel that the reason why Tata A.S.S. falters is mainly because of excessive workload on service personnels (Tata QC be blamed) and the cab drivers/ operators who creates a ruckus at the earliest opportunity and forces the service centre staff to stoop down to their levels, ultimately, only managing to ruin the experience of private customers.

Also, do not fear unavailability of spares till atleast after 5-7 years of discontinuation of a particular model, and that Multijet diesel engine / FIAT drivetrain is here to stay for the next decade atleast, with or without FIAT cars, courtesy TAMO and MSIL.

Also, the Linea would fare much better for your weekend getaways.
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Alright, that takes care of ASS. Still there are these factors

i20 sports engine on 8k KMS vs linea active on 38k KMS
i20 sports model and its extras vs linea active 1.3 with almost nothing...

Then there is
sedan vs i20
diesel vs petrol n all
resale value after 2 years?

Still a little confusing....but thanks a lot guys...I am really close here :)
 
Dropped out Linea...its finally between these 2

2010 Hyundai i20 Sports 1.2P, 8K Kms, very very good condition
2011 VW Polo 1.2 Highline , 12k Kms, very good condition

I need to decide before evening today, What should it be? I drove both cars, and both of them feels good to drive.

Hyundai i20
+ Better condition of the two, 8K Kms vs 12K Kms , although both looks brand new
+ Better room in the rear, the occasional weekend getaway with friends would be like with 4 people at least, so not sure, how would that be managed.
+ More bells and whistles as compared to Polo, it has steering mounted controls as well, while Polo 2011 model does not have it.
+ More Engine power out of the two.
+ Cheaper to maintain vs polo

- Older model 2010, will look outdated on road and possibly effect the resale value say after 2 years? Biggest concern
- Fuel Efficiency, its like 11KM/L as reported by the previous owner with AC on.
- Heard issues about AC not good enough in 2010 models of i20.
- Handling not as good as the Polo

VW Polo 1.2
+ Looks better, newer version ( 2011), Won't feel outdated on road and even the refreshed versions looks the same.
+ Better Fuel Efficiency, 14KM/L as reported by the previous owner
+ Better AC
+ Better Handling
+ Possibly better resale value after 2 years?
+ VW brand more desirable than Hyundai

- Rear space :(
- No steering mounted controls and less features as compared to i20?
- Less powerful engine
- Expensive to maintain?


So, what do you think? Which one is better deal?
 
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used cars seems to be very cheap in Kolkata
In hyderabad they are sky high instead you can buy a new one here...

I would have definitely bought Polo given a chance at that price in hyderabad
 
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hareshr29 said:
used cars seems to be very cheap in Kolkata
In hyderabad they are sky high instead you can buy a new one here...

I would have definitely bought Polo given a chance at that price in hyderabad
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Actually a lot of research and time went into finding these deals, so I won't say kolkata is cheaper for used cars or anything...just that I put in some effort to find these.
 
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No way Polo has better resale than i20 after two years. People are a bit wary of buying VW cars (used) because of high service costs.
 
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manu1991 said:
No way Polo has better resale than i20 after two years. People are a bit wary of buying VW cars (used) because of high service costs.
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But what about the fact that i20 would be like the previous looking model and not the new one..more over Polo is 2011 as compared to 2010 of i20.
 
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But what about the fact that i20 would be like the previous looking model and now the new one..more over Polo is 2011 as compared to 2010 of i20.
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The polo is literally a tank. But the A.S.S is expensive if you get it done from vw itself.I personally feel its a little underpowered compared to competition but i would still choose a polo over a i20.
Saying that, how tall are you? I am just short of 6 and im not comfortable driving a polo. Its extremely cramped for me and the rear seating is a lot worst.

Buddy what i dont understand here is, how can 3-4 yr old cars only be driven 12k kms.I mean i would still accept the fact that the cars driven less if it were a sedan. But a 4yr old hatchback, only driven 12k kms, hmmm. Get it thoroughly checked and between the 2, polo. I personally feel, that unless a VW or Skoda has a accident record, you need not worry about the car till a good 40000kms. Thats how sturdy these german cars are.
 
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The polo is literally a tank. But the A.S.S is expensive if you get it done from vw itself.I personally feel its a little underpowered compared to competition but i would still choose a polo over a i20.
Saying that, how tall are you? I am just short of 6 and im not comfortable driving a polo. Its extremely cramped for me and the rear seating is a lot worst.

Buddy what i dont understand here is, how can 3-4 yr old cars only be driven 12k kms.I mean i would still accept the fact that the cars driven less if it were a sedan. But a 4yr old hatchback, only driven 12k kms, hmmm. Get it thoroughly checked and between the 2, polo. I personally feel, that unless a VW or Skoda has a accident record, you need not worry about the car till a good 40000kms. Thats how sturdy these german cars are.
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Well Hyundai service costs like 1.5k and you have to do it twice a year. VW service costs like 4k but only once a year. So I guess that's pretty much balanced. In terms of total power, yea it has less bhp, but its lighter than i20 and acceleration is also good.

Also, I am like 5"10.5 and well it does feel a little bit cramped, but not so much actually...i20 is definitely better here.

And yea, I checked records of both the cars, i20 is 3 years old and genuinely less driven...( the owner has 3 more cars at his place :P ) ....and Polo is 2 years old approximately and it is 12k KMS driven..again in very good condition and owner had one more car he used more frequently.

And yea, I am personally leaning towards polo as well... but still i20 also looks good... :( so confused.
 
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Well Hyundai service costs like 1.5k and you have to do it twice a year. VW service costs like 4k but only once a year. So I guess that's pretty much balanced. In terms of total power, yea it has less bhp, but its lighter than i20 and acceleration is also good.

Also, I am like 5"10.5 and well it does feel a little bit cramped, but not so much actually...i20 is definitely better here.

And yea, I checked records of both the cars, i20 is 3 years old and genuinely less driven...( the owner has 3 more cars at his place :p ) ....and Polo is 2 years old approximately and it is 12k KMS driven..again in very good condition and owner had one more car he used more frequently.

And yea, I am personally leaning towards polo as well... but still i20 also looks good... :( so confused.
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Ok no intention of breaking ur enthusiasm here, but you got the service costs all wrong here buddy. When you said a polo costs 4k a year, i almost jumped off my seat.
Incase A.S.S costs are a concern, i suggest you actually go to a service center and ask them how much a basic annual service costs, all inclusive. That 4k figure is way off the mark.
And i20 1.5k? hmmm.
 
edge111hussain said:
Ok no intention of breaking ur enthusiasm here, but you got the service costs all wrong here buddy. When you said a polo costs 4k a year, i almost jumped off my seat.
Incase A.S.S costs are a concern, i suggest you actually go to a service center and ask them how much a basic annual service costs, all inclusive. That 4k figure is way off the mark.
And i20 1.5k? hmmm.
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yea, I think its off :(
http://www.cardekho.com/volkswagen-polo/service-cost.htm

http://www.cardekho.com/hyundai-i20/service-cost.htm
 
I myself am looking to pick up a decent Honda Civic 1.8 SMT and then slap on a FFE with a piggyback chip and the K&N filter. Going by the way the Civic's resale value's dropped, there are a few sweet deals going in the market at the moment.
 
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The polo is literally a tank. But the A.S.S is expensive if you get it done from vw itself.I personally feel its a little underpowered compared to competition but i would still choose a polo over a i20.
Saying that, how tall are you? I am just short of 6 and im not comfortable driving a polo. Its extremely cramped for me and the rear seating is a lot worst.

Buddy what i dont understand here is, how can 3-4 yr old cars only be driven 12k kms.I mean i would still accept the fact that the cars driven less if it were a sedan. But a 4yr old hatchback, only driven 12k kms, hmmm. Get it thoroughly checked and between the 2, polo. I personally feel, that unless a VW or Skoda has a accident record, you need not worry about the car till a good 40000kms. Thats how sturdy these german cars are.
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My car is 4 years old. I completed only 13k on the odo. Thats because i hardly get to use it. I use it only on weekends. :)
I have seen such cases before, but the other possibility that you have said is also possible. Need to get it checked by a good mechanic.
 
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