Graphic Cards Asus/BFG 7950 GX2 (Single Card) vs Sapphire x1900xtx

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As the Title States, which one will be better @ 1280x1024/1440x960. I m in a process of building a Core2 Duo Powered PC this July, So i would get the best possible GPU i can get. I saw the benchies, n in every benchies i saw the 7950 GX2 shined vs ATI x1900xtx in almost every Benchies. So which one would be better.

PS. The noise, Power Consumption and Size dont really Bother me. I m getting any of these card from Singapore where the Asus 7950gx2 is for 30K n the X1900xtx is for 29K.

Also State. I will be buying a Dell 2407 in March 07. So then i will be gaming at 1920x1280.

For Benchies:

NVIDIA's GeForce 7950 GX2 graphics card - The Tech Report - Page 1

PC Perspective - BFG GeForce 7950 GX2 Review: Dual GPU Video Card

HEXUS.net : Review : NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 : Page - 1/8

GeForce 7950 GX2 reference and XFX

bit-tech.net | NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2

I know some of the benchies here Features BFG's version of 7950. But Clock speeds being the same for Asus n BFG, they will give the same exact performance.

So post ur suggestions n advises.

Thank You

Shado
 
The X1900 XTX is selling for $925 SGD, and the 7950 GX2 $1000. Hmmm, while the performance of the GX2 is potentially higher, i would still go by the features of the X1900 series. Not to mention the number of 7900 GPU's that have been dying. Since the 7950 has the same GPU you never know. And since your buying from singapore RMA will involve sending the card back and will be a big issue. You should probably find the XT at a lower price. The prices on VR-Zone havent been updated in a while.
 
I got a Radeon 1900XTX Gecube for 29.2 + tax. tell me if you are interested, something might work out.
You will easily get a radeon 1900xt under 31k.
 
hunt3r said:
The X1900 XTX is selling for $925 SGD, and the 7950 GX2 $1000. Hmmm, while the performance of the GX2 is potentially higher, i would still go by the features of the X1900 series. Not to mention the number of 7900 GPU's that have been dying. Since the 7950 has the same GPU you never know. And since your buying from singapore RMA will involve sending the card back and will be a big issue. You should probably find the XT at a lower price. The prices on VR-Zone havent been updated in a while.
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Nah Vr-Zone just updated the price list for Cybermind on 6th June, i m likly to get the latest prices.

Anyways, Though the 7950 uses the same G71 GPU, i have heard nV have increased the PCB quality of the 7950 over the 7900, Keeping Quad SLI in mind. The extra size of the board offers great thermal resistance. Am i Right ????

Or should i get a x1900xtx from there.

techboy said:
I got a Radeon 1900XTX Gecube for 29.2 + tax. tell me if you are interested, something might work out.

You will easily get a radeon 1900xt under 31k.
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I will let u know if i m intrested.
 
Afaik they just reduced the size of the PCB for 7950 GX2. Thermal resistance?? How is PCB size going to affect thermal resistance(more importantly thermal resitance of what??). Quad SLI was there even in 7900 GX2, so no difference there.

Yea i saw that, just cybermind,dat and a few others have been updated fairly recently. . And anyway the prices online are sometimes wrong. When i bought something, the price in concerned shop was in fact less than the price listed online(10% less). Im pretty sure you will get it for around $800 SGD. Check sg.hardwarezone.com as well for latest prices. Go for the X1900 XT in any case, its not worth the extra premium for the XTX.
 
Definitely the 7950 GX2 ... it'll outshine the X1900XTX in every damm game .... and how about the 1 GB of vram ??? thats lots of video mem. ... and combining those two G71 cores will ensure uber performance ... just make sure the CPU is upto the mark ....
 
hunt3r said:
Afaik they just reduced the size of the PCB for 7950 GX2. Thermal resistance?? How is PCB size going to affect thermal resistance(more importantly thermal resitance of what??). Quad SLI was there even in 7900 GX2, so no difference there.

Yea i saw that, just cybermind,dat and a few others have been updated fairly recently. . And anyway the prices online are sometimes wrong. When i bought something, the price in concerned shop was in fact less than the price listed online(10% less). Im pretty sure you will get it for around $800 SGD. Check sg.hardwarezone.com as well for latest prices. Go for the X1900 XT in any case, its not worth the extra premium for the XTX.
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Ok i agree that 7950gx2 will run no cooler then a x1900xtx or 7900gtx. But wht about he performance it gives. In some games its like 40-45% faster then x1900xtx in Avg FPS. In games like BF2, COD2 the diff is like 25-30%. I know there have been cases of 7900, but those are of factory OCed cards. I m yet to see a card that dies at reference speed (Apart if the card is defective). Also the card i will be buying is a Asus, Asus though are not much into graphics market but there PCB quality is somewhat better then the others.
 
deathvirus_me said:
Definitely the 7950 GX2 ... it'll outshine the X1900XTX in every damm game .... and how about the 1 GB of vram ??? thats lots of video mem. ... and combining those two G71 cores will ensure uber performance ... just make sure the CPU is upto the mark ....
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I really dont care about Vram above 512mb. 512Mb is already way too much to play latest games, adding another 512Mb only really shines when used at resolution of 2304x1600 (or whtever it is). The point here is that 7950gx2 is really a faster n better card then x1900xtx. But i m worried about the mileage of the card, becoz the fact is that it runs at the same temp as x1900xtx or sometimes higher.
 
X1900XTX for me.

Simply because of far better IQ, plus the dual GPU concept hasn't really picked up.

Dunno why, but I feel the 7 series architecture is really a bottleneck for dual GPU's.

Better still, wait and pick up a DX10 card straight...;)
 
First these card should not be marketed as 1GB cards.

In SLI the card memory is copies. So its basically 512MB per core and thats how it stays. Both set of memory will contain exact same information. So it really cant hold more than 512MB of data.

on 2nd note. 7950 still cant touch the IQ of X1k series, still cant do HDR + AA as its still same GPU to that of 7900GTX.

If you are spending 30K spend it locally on X1900XT. XT and XTX are not that different when it comes to performance and you get local warranty.

Get X1900XT from there only if its considerably cheaper than XTX. otherwise really no point getting card from abroad for say even 5k price difference.
 
shado_chazzer_killer said:
Ok i agree that 7950gx2 will run no cooler then a x1900xtx or 7900gtx. But wht about he performance it gives. In some games its like 40-45% faster then x1900xtx in Avg FPS. In games like BF2, COD2 the diff is like 25-30%. I know there have been cases of 7900, but those are of factory OCed cards. I m yet to see a card that dies at reference speed (Apart if the card is defective). Also the card i will be buying is a Asus, Asus though are not much into graphics market but there PCB quality is somewhat better then the others.
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Read that 10pg hardocp thread... there are quite a few dead asus 7900gt/gtx cards. Just turning a blind eye to a problem doesn't make you immune to it :P. ALL PCBs other than the gainwards and a few xfx vivo ones are made by flextronics in china and thats where asus gets its pcbs from as well. So go buy ur asus 7900 :no: .

EDIT: This response is not for sck but for others reading the thread who might be misguided by the 1GB bs. sck seems like another techboy who creates multiple threads for asking what to buy but never actually buys anything :P.
 
Chaos said:
EDIT: This response is not for sck but for others reading the thread who might be misguided by the 1GB bs. sck seems like another techboy who creates multiple threads for asking what to buy but never actually buys anything :P.
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And wht if i Buy these thing, will u become a Ch****n:@ :@ :@. Lets bet on this.
Actually i was previously going to buy a opty 165 as i really cant wait for evn a day for the new pc. But i finally decided a couple of days ago to buy a C2D becoz its really worth waiting. Thats the reason i had been making many threads. I currently have 90K cash money waiting to be spent . And i find it wise to ask for the most advises and suggestions before forking out my Money.
So how about a little bet. :D
 
Anish said:
X1900XTX for me.

Simply because of far better IQ, plus the dual GPU concept hasn't really picked up.

Dunno why, but I feel the 7 series architecture is really a bottleneck for dual GPU's.

Better still, wait and pick up a DX10 card straight...;)
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Nah i dont wanna wait any longer. I will just buy a DX9 card for now n then upgrade to a DX10 later on.
So another vote for a xtx.
 
Check out the recent article by DailyTech.com
ATI Responds to NVIDIA's GeForce 7950GX2

DailyTech reported earlier today that NVIDIA's board partners had announced GeForce 7950GX2 boards, which consists of two 7900GX2 GPUs slapped together onto two PCBs but using one 16x PCIe slot. The design was also made to address design issues with the original 7900GX2 boards. The new design is shorter and requires less power. Availability issues are also suppose to be fully addressed this time around.

ATI however, has come forward to say that new GeForce 7950GX2 boards provides almost no improvement over the previous generation, all while costing a hand and leg. In fact, ATI goes to show that in many performance benchmarks -- synthetic and real-world -- NVIDIA's GeForce 7950GX2 actually loses to a single Radeon X1900XTX in the majority of tests.

According to ATI's own tests, a GeForce 7950GX2:

* Does not function as a dual-GPU solution in every game.
* Is slower than a single GeForce 7900 GT in games without a Forceware AFR profile
* Is slower than a single Radeon X1900 XTX at XHD resolution
* Does not offer the best "bang for the buck"
* Is slower than a single Radeon X1900 XTX at comparable image quality settings
* Still trails the Radeon X1K series in video quality

Interestingly, independent tests results from around the web show that NVIDIA's GeForce 7950GX2 actually is indeed faster than the Radeon X1900XTX. According to ATI's tests however, GeForce 7950GX2 products "exhibit texture crawling and texture shimmering". ATI lists the following games as having problems with GeForce 7950GX2:

* Battlefield 2
* Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
* Tomb Raider: Legends

Furthermore, none of the reviews currently testing with the above games saw any abnormal game behavior like those noted in ATI's own tests.
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Source: Click here
I think i need to think hard upon this.
 
@ SCK,
You can have my very sparingly used Sapphire X1900XT card. it was bought here locally from Darky's dealer in March'06. hence it will come with bill and full 2 years warranty. all accessories are unopened and will come with the original box.

I had bought it for > 29K Rupees.

I can give it to you for 26K. (Slightly Negotiable)

if interested PM me.

Reason for sale: Upgrade.
 
@ SCK,

You can have my very sparingly used Sapphire X1900XT card. it was bought here locally from Darky's dealer in March'06. hence it will come with bill and full 2 years warranty. all accessories are unopened and will come with the original box.

I had bought it for > 29K Rupees.

I can give it to you for 26K. (Slightly Negotiable)

if interested PM me.

Reason for sale: Upgrade.
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Thats seems like a great buy considering i will get the warrentee while spending the same. Can u post some personal Pic of the xt (including the box n the bill), i m ready to buy it after some negoitations. Also is there any physical damage or anything that has prompted u to sell ur xt.

I will PM u tonite as i m currently busy.
 
deejay said:
@ SCK,
You can have my very sparingly used Sapphire X1900XT card. it was bought here locally from Darky's dealer in March'06. hence it will come with bill and full 2 years warranty. all accessories are unopened and will come with the original box.

I had bought it for > 29K Rupees.

I can give it to you for 26K. (Slightly Negotiable)

if interested PM me.

Reason for sale: Upgrade.
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LOL Deejay... upgrade to what? :D. There's nothing faster at the moment :P.

@sck: How about showing us a glimpse of that 90K that you have waiting to be spent lol.
 
Chaos said:
@sck: How about showing us a glimpse of that 90K that you have waiting to be spent lol.
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Now that doesnt meant that i keep that 90K in my wallet or something..lol. I mean i have some in Bank, some with my dad and remaining in my hand. But i can have them instantly, whenever i need them. Damn
 
Arre bhai... first decide what u want? If you want the "Best" right now then its 7950GX2... no matter what the reports of 7900GT/X are saying. As if reports of dead Chips [I beg to differ..its actually card's PCBs, as Chaos said, which are at fault] were so true then not only NV but Big names like DELL and VoodooPC will not come out with Cards and Machines supporting this design. Also if you want a High-performer with a decent future [as a super Physics cruncher, atleast as per ATI] to boot...then look no where else, as its X1900XTX.

Now I know that using the term "Best" will bring many on to table :) but it is what it is... I mean can ATI do that to even X1800?? I mean Single 16X slot used but a dual-GPU setup?? Nah... so applause where its due... Engineer of NV have done a super job of getting this Dual monster working right. But I feel and I have been told by many that "wait it out for DX10" n it seems right thing to do.

@Deejay, Sir Project "G80 in your RIG" is on or what??? :D
 
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