Forum Feedback Dealer feedback about Amarbir

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Well, first of all it's not a personal attack on Amarbir but a lament against how he conducts the business. Because the experience the I had in dealing with him is so unique that I decided to put it here as I believe many will benefit from it:

The deal

* I was interested in Amarbir's PL-11 deal. So I contacted him, got his response and he told me how to place the order and pay the money. I wanted to place order by TE only but he said placing an order on Lynx is a necessary step. I said fine... the order was placed on October 23 and modified by Amarbir on the same day

here are the details:

Order ID: Lynx-2838

Order time: 23.10.2009 01:43:30

Customer: XXXXXXXX

Email XXXXXXXXXXX

Customer IP: 59.XXXXXXX

Order status: Awaiting Payment

Comment: This is morgoth from TE. I will Pay Rs 585 for PL-11 as TE rates. [Additional Info] DD will be dispatched tomorrow.

The changes that took place in order status:

23.10.2009 20:59:00 Order set to custom status: Awaiting Payment

Comment: Sir ,

We Are Waiting For The Payment .Once You Complete The Payment By Your Preferred Method Please Call 9815000133 And Inform .Please Write The "Order ID No XYZ "In The Comments if You Do a Online Transfer.For Any Question Use Website Live Support . Awaiting Payment

23.10.2009 20:58:42 Order modified by AMARBIR

23.10.2009 01:43:30 Customer placed this order Pending

DD was sent to Amarbir on October 27 and the following PM was sent:

I have couriered the DD for PL-11 to you. It was sent on evening of Tuesday from Delhi and on Wednesday evening was moved to Chandigarh for delivery. Hopefully, you will get it tomorrow. The shipment no is: 115859168 (Blazeflash Couriers)

Please acknowledge when you receive the DD. I have also attached the note with order no of PL-11 with the DD.

Regards

The reply i got was:

Hi

At Night My Guy Will Come and i Will Solve This ASAP.

What happened afterward

On October 29, I called up Amarbir's shop where one Baljeet confirmed that DD has been received. I also called up Amarbir, and he said the product will be shipped in a day and most likely I will get it before Sunday.

But then I suppose, this tragic incident involving Amarbir's brother happened and he apparently got busy with the family matters. I got to know about it when I called Amarbir on Sunday or Monday, (i don't exactly remember).

Amarbir told me he was very busy owing to unforeseen circumstances but "now he is again taking care of TE orders". So I told him about my order...

This man works in funny ways. In the last four days I made numerous calls, wrote in PL-11 deal threads and even SMSed him but most of the time either he was not on net (when he picked phone) and never cared to reply to my queries in PL-11 thread.

Finally, last night he told me the product will be shipped today (Nov 6). I told him that I understand in what kind of situation he is, and he can have more time to clear the order. The only thing I wanted was clarity and some exact time-frame by which I will get the product. He assured me that it will definitely be shipped on Nov 6.

That, of course, did not happen. I called him up 15 minutes ago and the drill was same. Tell me your order id, he asked. I told him that but by this time I was low on patience. I told him that he should have stuck to his words, the promise that he made last evening. He said if I can't understand his situation he wont sell me the product.

Finally, he decided to cancel my order because I was fed up with his stupid antics and unkempt promises. He has promised that I will get the money back... (I hope you don't delay it the way you delayed this deal, Mr Amarbir).

Now the key points:

* Mr Amarbir, money or a PL-11 is not everything. If you ask me, you can keep the money. And I am sure that loss of Rs 585 is something with which even you can live. What is important is how you were able to spoil a friendship even before it started.

* Second, I am sure you have gone through a lot in the last week, but how do you know that I have not gone through something similar or even worse? I know you are very busy, but how do you know that I am not that busy? Just because I am not telling you something, doesn't mean that it's not there.

And honestly, I don't like it when people try and use tragedies for some kind excuses or shields. I started asking you about my order when you told me that you are back in your shop and looking after the back orders... once you are back to doing business, why keep repeating that you have gone through this and that.
* Three, Mr Ambarbir, when you promise something, try and keep it. Don't treat promises as something which you give to people when you want them off your back. You know what, going through the experience in dealing with you is pretty humiliating sometimes. You just don't respond and many a times you just don't keep promises... hell, take your time. Take ten days... but inform the customer. And I am not saying you should call people to inform them about any changes, just tell them about it when they call you.

* last, change your attitude. Just because I told you that you should have shipped my order today, you told me that you are refunding me my money... chose your words carefully. Can you refund me the time that I spent and efforts that I made while dealing with you?

Also, don't give this shit to people about buyer and seller thing... You told me it's the right of a seller to sell a product... well you are certainly right, but you know when you have received the payment, you also have responsibility. If you did not want me to buy the product, you could have said in the beginning itself.

Parting words: You can be very well be sure that I am not going to deal with you in future. But I sincerely hope you do mend the way you do conduct the business. It will do lot of good to many people here TE as well as to you.

Adieu...

PS: Of course, there is negative rating for Amarbir as well, but this post was made because I wanted to share the experience.
 
not a new thing i heard about that him !!!! He can give u good deals, no doubt, but his attitude is wat that needs to improve !!!!
 
Well a similar thing on the other forum alienated him. This thread can be very well be ignored but trust me guys, this is something very serious.
 
I agree with Morgoth.

Though he does come with good deals, but the kind of feedback I've read about him here has made me reluctant to buy anything from him.

I prefer to buy things locally paying few bucks more rather than from him.
 
Well well. Something similar happened with me when he was very new. the order was for a 8gb microsd card. i paid, the order went to awaiting payment and he then went to his home town or something.

Five days and no update. and when i finally gave him a call and asked him the status he gave me a huge lecture on how busy he was. etc etc. i said, then please give me a expected date of shipping to which he flatly refused and said, he would refund my money. i took the money and never dealt with him, even though the prices are excellent.

bottom line is with Amarbir, you know two things. he will give you good prices and products with a vat paid bill. But, if you expect consistent behavior you wont get it.
 
@morgoth.

My friend. He works like that. He wants to others to know the whole around him weighs on his shoulder. No point in telling him that you dont care.

As numerous others have said. Bear with him if you can/need, so that you can grab his good deals give does sometimes.

You said u been made enemy before being a friend. He was rude to me even after making 2 purchases before that. i just asked when he will ship. :(. I fed up saying that i don't care abt his issues. just give simple answers and just keep it. i am the buyer and he the seller. Most here bear him coz of the deals he give. Just let it go.

Even for this thread he will have a extremely long and totally pointless reply. everything except ur complaint will be addressed. Just tell the mods to close the thread ASAP, no use. old story. new victim.
 
m-jeri said:
@morgoth.

My friend. He works like that. He wants to others to know the whole around him weighs on his shoulder. No point in telling him that you dont care.

As numerous others have said. Bear with him if you can/need, so that you can grab his good deals give does sometimes.

You said u been made enemy before being a friend. He was rude to me even after making 2 purchases before that. i just asked when he will ship. :(. I fed up saying that i don't care abt his issues. just give simple answers and just keep it. i am the buyer and he the seller. Most here bear him coz of the deals he give. Just let it go.

Even for this thread he will have a extremely long and totally pointless reply. everything except ur complaint will be addressed. Just tell the mods to close the thread ASAP, no use. old story. new victim.

yeh, may be you are right. But this is a community and I believe collective experience counts for something. May be mods/admins are listening. ;)

As for enemy... so sir, he did not made me his enemy. Rs 585 or a spoiled deal is trivial to turn me into someone's enemy. But I yes, I am not going to deal with him in future. That's it :)
 
another thread for :food1: time.....

this has been discussed over and over again...different people - same experience.

bottom line : new experiences make more people think twice.

end result : someone looses out on business.

nevertheless, thanks for bringing this issue to light.
 
Similar experience. I wanted a Dell monitor which he put up a GO for. I transferred the money and 2 days later he tells me stock will arrive in a week.

5 days later he says another week. Finally he told me "Dell India does not offer this product, why don't you switch to xxx".

Thank god I received my refund promptly.
 
Similar experience. I wanted a Dell monitor which he put up a GO for. I transferred the money and 2 days later he tells me stock will arrive in a week.

5 days later he says another week. Finally he told me "Dell India does not offer this product, why don't you switch to xxx".

Thank god I received my refund promptly.
 
thetechmind said:
someone looses out on business.

And that's what he doesn't care about. We guys are just a fraction of the herd of customers he have. He doesn't mind loosing one for the other 1000 that are in line.

You know, there are people who have been dealt in extremely good ways as well. Yeah from the same guy.

Good or Bad, i can't decide. But yes the CONSISTENCY is terribly missing.

Same point, we, the customers, are the only loosers here.
 
I've posted this before, the problem with this seller is not intent, it's reliability. He is sufficiently polite on the phone and is very confident of delivery (sometimes more than he should be).

I've had some extremely smooth and satisfying transactions with him - in one case getting a free upgrade because he could not procure stock for what I had ordered - and one case where he delayed something for over two months. I've not had a situation where I've been cheated though, I always got my money back. That's a pretty big deal - I have suffered that with a Bangalore-based Ebay seller named Mohammed Hussain who decamped with 15K off me once.

If I had a system to rate sellers, I'd give Amarbir 3.5 overall. I do keep him pretty much in the top three list when I have to order something not available locally, but I also exercise discretion and caution - which I do with all dealers. The other thing is that he has some products on his site not really available at all elsewhere (not PC bits, other stuff) so I do need to depend on him once in a while.
 
Thankx man for enlightining the AMAR that is not Beer!! Glad I never got my HAF 922 from him, even though I paid 150 bucks more!
 
@cranky: That is something I can understand... but you know, in the last week whenever I called him and he picked up phone, we always went through the same drill:

Me: hello, Amarbir ji what happened to my order?

Amarbir: Haan kaun, aapka order number kay hai

Me: (gives the number)...

Sometimes, he told me that he has noted it down and will look into the matter asap... sometimes he said, he is not on net so I should call him back in a few minutes (I call, phone is switched off or not picked). Sometimes, he says he is aware of the issue and the product will be shipped very soon... "very soon" that never comes. In fact, today he even told me why I am calling him again and again

I mean... frustration. I am sure he has good intents, I give this to the man, but in return what I get... an extremely frustrating experience.

I don't even need PL-11... I just thought about buying it because deal was so good. I could have waited for it one month... two months. But at least, there has to be some clarity.
 
morgoth said:
Well, first of all it's not a personal attack on Amarbir but a lament against how he conducts the business. Because the experience the I had in dealing with him is so unique that I decided to put it here as I believe many will benefit from it:

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Well ,

I Was Handling Many Many Orders On PL-11 Daily and Sending The Same Too .Well If Your Younger Brother Is Involved in a Accident And You Are The Only Person To take Care and Handle The Police ,Long Live chandigarh Police Not even One Arrest Wince a Week .I Am running From Piller To Post Trying To Get Justice For My Brother And His Friend .Till Today Nothing Is Done Or Happened .You Called Me Virtually everyday ASking Me To Process The Order ,everyday I Wrote Your Details and Trust Me I Am Trying To Solve All Orders What i Got In This Week And Are Pending ,I Have Approx 60 Orders Pending In The Website And Approx 25 To 50 Orders i Processed Today .I Have Emails Pending ,TE PM Pending and Also I Am Looking Into Threads .I Am Single Handed Looking Into All And i Have Processed All What a Person In His Capacity Could Do .You Are The Only One Calling Me everyday even After Knowing i Am Involved With a Family Matter Of Utter Importance .The Only thing You Need is Your PL-11 Cos You Do Not Want To Miss Your Rs :500/- Deal .Anyways i cannot attend to your order and as i was in my shop the whole day i have told you that i will refund your money ,We called you 4 to 5 times and you are not willing to share your account information with us .We are Forced To Make a DD And Send You now As a Refund .Regarding the Negaive Rating I Am Not Involved With You For a Deal I Am Refunding Your Money,Its Up To The Mods And The Admin To See That And Make a Verdict .Had i Know This is Your Atititute i Would Have Never Converted Your Order Into Awaiting Payment .And i Am Literally Sick Of Some People Trying To Use TE All The Time To Pin Me Down ,You Told Me This

Morgoth Said "WAIT AND WATCH WHAT I WILL DO WITH YOU ON TE"

Excellent Atititude Morgoth Keep It Up
 
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