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[Mephistopheles]

@ Mr. Johnie and the associates...
As much as you guys like to support amarbir in each and every thread, so shall the once who suffer like to warn the others about what he did with them.

And the associates? I reckon that indirectly included me as the "associates"
First of all, I do not like to support Amarbir, I like to support things which are right. I think the ones who have apparently suffered are the ones running this "Anti-Amarbir" propaganda and a few like me who cant stand undue wrong being done like to explain to the people what really is the story. And BTW dont you think that there are enough feedback threads on him for the people to read and take their own decision? I think this "warning people about what Amarbir supposedly did to you" social service has been overdone, people arent really that stupid as you think...

ok so i will try to break down the situation to you and you judge if that is dissatisfaction or cheating.
Based on a True Story... Yeah Yeah, true story :|

Suppose i am a registered dealer..
Suppose Amarbir is selling HD5850 1GB for 14k...
and i create a deal for HD5850 1GB for 13k... (assuming im big shot and if amarbir can get it for 14k then i can get for 13k)

naturally some would pay me for a hot deal like that...especially when the status on my site for 5850 shows in stock (actually i havent even ordered or received any stock)
now a few days after receiving payment i start getting calls from the customers..

and to their surprise, i say those are out of stock...ordering new stock... customers still keep their cool considering it is only a matter of days..
well a week goes and customer calls me for refund... but sorry.. i dont refund..it is my policy!!

but bam!! its 2months now and HD5850 is already at 12.5k!! and your dear dealer is yet to receive his stock..
and then you get your HD5850 for 13k delivered.

So you would term this dissatisfaction ?
or cheating ?

your POV is that getting products late is dissatisfaction.
and our POV here is blocking money without having stock actually at your end is cheating.

tomorrow i will create a 100 piece GO for Phenom II X6 1055T @ 8k and then deliver it to all those people when actual market price becomes 7.5-8k...
assume you are one of those who ordered and is eagerly expecting it in promised 'within a week's timeframe delivery'.
although i promised ready stocks before making payment... but then it is not my fault that i didnt get the stock in the time i assumed so i will abuse you over fone..

what will you do??
I'm sure you will be wise enough to term even this as dissatisfaction..!!
If indeed, then please post so, i am willing to register as a Dealer and take the opportunity to take payment for many 1055T X6 ... i will use your money for my investment purposes until prices of 1055T X6 fall to that range.

I highly doubt how much truth there is to this "true story" of yours. Anyways, saying that one got cheated because of a dealer during a deal involving money to human beings who do not have some other agenda of their own means that the person was duped/scammed of money and never got it back. Now if you want to describe certain dissatisfaction as "being cheated" go ahead, but a person who does not know of this habit of yours will confuse it as what I just explained. BTW you seem to think dissatisfaction is okay, and you can get away with it..that is incorrect. Although I will get my money or my product back eventually..I will not deal with you again.

As far as Amarbir removal from Dealer is concerned, apart from Amarbir and Mods/Admin no body know he did resigned to his will or upon pressure from Mods/Admins. So refrain from posting without knowing truth.

A staff member has already clarified that Amarbir himself voluntarily resigned and was not removed as the thread's misleading title suggests.

Reading what you type and how blinded you are to not even see genuine reasons, makes me believe that you are one of those from amarbir's shop who look after the online work..

As that guy has said already, he has never been to Punjab and he lives in the southermost state of India, How on earth could what you wrote be, in any way true?

If u genuinely want to find why such a thread was made read right form the first post with a open mind..
If not, dont mind if people ignore you, cause, if running away with money is the only form of cheating you know, then there's nothing more to discuss..We differ right there..

Although yeah, lying is also a kind of cheating but it is not used in general day-to-day life to refer to lying. Why do you so love the word "cheating" anyways? Why the fuss?
Or maybe it makes him look more of a culprit and will scare more people off, Eh?
BTW I must also say that there can be genuine emergencies or genuine delays in receiving shipment,shipment stuck at customs etc. but when it starts to happen frequently, there most definitely is lying involved.

Sheesh guys! Arent you guys bored already? There is more drama here than those stupid hindi tv shows that married women watch!

Imho, The other thread which got deleted about the review samples should have stayed and this one be closed.

Absolutely
But it really surprises me that how some say that move was justified. :|

Ask Amarbir to get the chat transcripts.I challeneged him to show it to everyone.

:lol:
Have you no shame? You better not post here for your own good..

P.S To All Anti-Amarbir and warn people for their safety social service guys,
Enough has already been posted and enough has already been replied, there is no point in dragging it further as it is turning into something else now
I really hope that this is my last reply regarding this. Chill.

 

[johnie1]

@partymonger i am out of this thread

@nash8789 whom are you kidding.anyways i have complained to the mods.so lets see.

cheers.

 

[Party Monger]

Although yeah, lying is also a kind of cheating but it is not used in general day-to-day life to refer to lying. Why do you so love the word "cheating" anyways? Why the fuss?

Or maybe it makes him look more of a culprit and will scare more people off, Eh?

BTW I must also say that there can be genuine emergencies or genuine delays in receiving shipment,shipment stuck at customs etc. but when it starts to happen frequently, there most definitely is lying involved.

Thou art master of words, This is worth framing and hanging on an exhibition wall..

How you take things from cheating to lying, to people making him seem like a culprit, and then call him a cheater your self, to cover your own ass! !

Wow!

I'd say, you've said what you wanted to, and now ur just repeating the same old blabber..please sir, we got ur point, i know it seems to you that he's an undefended man, and how u feel compulsed to tell everyone his side of the story, but you're "guessing" or in way making up on your own his side of the story..

All filled with "maybe" he had delays, or "maybe" shipment stuck at customs...Please dont guess, when we say something here, we aren't guessing, this is first hand experience speaking..

@MODs- While you ponder over what to do, why not lock his market thread?

 

[Mephistopheles]

Amar:Johnie Johnie!!!

John:Yes papa!!!

Amar:eat my sugar!!

John:Yes papa!!!

Amar:Lick my a$$

John:Yes papa!!

Nash this is offensive.I would urge the mods to kindly look into this sort of behaviour.This demeans te as a whole.

Now Nash this does reflect on your upbringing.So nothing else to say really.

Yes Nash, that wasn't cool at all. :no:

You may have your reasons against Amarbir, but that is totally uncalled for.

I have been observing in silence, mostly shocked. What the hell happened to this place

This used to be a nice forum to learn things but now its all market feedback and ebay coupons.

This guy is a shameful fellow and he proves that with this post of his..I just do not understand why Amarbir has not put up the chat transcripts for everyone to see.

And I wont be surprised if the Mods dont delete this post of his
@Party Monger

I was just completing one reply when dozen other comments were poured in, Although I would love to tell you why you are wrong again I wont...as I think you will never understand what I've been trying to say since the beginning of this thread and anyways I have a headache now, feeling pissed at how different an image I had about some things and all of it has been shattered.

Another comment from you, so one last time -

Thou art master of words, This is worth framing and hanging on an exhibition wall..

Thank you very much for the compliment, although i'd be happier to receive it from someone I have more respect for.

How you take things from cheating to lying, to people making him seem like a culprit, and then call him a cheater your self, to cover your own ass! !

Wow!

Some people just do not have it in them to understand basic things, anyways from whom am I covering my ass?

I'd say, you've said what you wanted to, and now ur just repeating the same old blabber..please sir, we got ur point, i know it seems to you that he's an undefended man, and how u feel compulsed to tell everyone his side of the story, but you're "guessing" or in way making up on your own his side of the story..

All filled with "maybe" he had delays, or "maybe" shipment stuck at customs...Please dont guess, when we say something here, we aren't guessing, this is first hand experience speaking..

You have also said what you wanted to say, why dont you stay away from this thread then and not invite another reply from me?

And you should be given the crown of the person who misperceives the most and twists things to his own liking

@Nash -

I know you will have a reply for this, dont waste your time..Im not interested in replying to people like you

P.S I would like to clarify again for people who dont seem to understand..

I have my own share of bitterness for Amarbir, its not about Amarbir please...but some things are just unreasonable

 

[madnav]

And the associates? I reckon that indirectly included me as the "associates"

First of all, I do not like to support Amarbir, I like to support things which are right. I think the ones who have apparently suffered are the ones running this "Anti-Amarbir" propaganda and a few like me who cant stand undue wrong being done like to explain to the people what really is the story. And BTW dont you think that there are enough feedback threads on him for the people to read and take their own decision? I think this "warning people about what Amarbir supposedly did to you" social service has been overdone, people arent really that stupid as you think...
I highly doubt how much truth there is to this "true story" of yours. Anyways, saying that one got cheated because of a dealer during a deal involving money to human beings who do not have some other agenda of their own means that the person was duped/scammed of money and never got it back. Now if you want to describe certain dissatisfaction as "being cheated" go ahead, but a person who does not know of this habit of yours will confuse it as what I just explained. BTW you seem to think dissatisfaction is okay, and you can get away with it..that is incorrect. Although I will get my money or my product back eventually..I will not deal with you again.
A staff member has already clarified that Amarbir himself voluntarily resigned and was not removed as the thread's misleading title suggests.

As that guy has said already, he has never been to Punjab and he lives in the southermost state of India, How on earth could what you wrote be, in any way true?

Although yeah, lying is also a kind of cheating but it is not used in general day-to-day life to refer to lying. Why do you so love the word "cheating" anyways? Why the fuss?

Or maybe it makes him look more of a culprit and will scare more people off, Eh?

BTW I must also say that there can be genuine emergencies or genuine delays in receiving shipment,shipment stuck at customs etc. but when it starts to happen frequently, there most definitely is lying involved.
Absolutely

But it really surprises me that how some say that move was justified. :|

:lol:

Have you no shame? You better not post here for your own good..
P.S To All Anti-Amarbir and warn people for their safety social service guys,

Enough has already been posted and enough has already been replied, there is no point in dragging it further as it is turning into something else now

I really hope that this is my last reply regarding this. Chill.

That was in relation with how johnie expressed about dissatisfaction and yes if it was Okay for him then i wouldnt mind the opportunity!!

read carefully.

and yes, if you think it was not based on a true story then i guess you are just being ignorant about his deeds.

he did receive payments and he did change status after receiving payment.

and this is not me saying, this is what he says respectfully in one of his feedback threads.. i dont have interest to digg back.

from what i remember, he was very enthusiastic about how his distributor chain adds to the dealy.. the freakin point is that customers dont care for your troubles with your suppliers, they paid you because you claimed stock of goods... what he said was that he claimed on stocks that his suppliers had.

now if im an AMD distributor and if there are 5people in chain from me to AMD.. AMD is still my supplier after those 5people.

Am i entitled to receive payment for something AMD launches in india without acquiring stocks?

 

[MohitPreet]

@ Mephistophele : u r also as relentless as amrbir is , no matter what others say both u and amrbir will still try to persuade that we are right

 

[Rockfella]

Kyonki saas bhi kabhi bahu thi! :lol:

 

[Mephistopheles]

@ Mephistophele : u r also as relentless as amrbir is , no matter what others say both u and amrbir will still try to persuade that we are right

Yeah, open up a thread like this and start a petition to ban me too..

 

[MohitPreet]

^ u obviouly didnt notice the smiley at the end of it

3 this time , hope u notice them now, only max of 3 smileys allowed before a warning :bleh:

 

[madnav]

this is hopeless and im officially bored after repeating the same sh!t all over.

i guess if that doesnt render him guilty then i dont know what will to you two.

all i can do is wish good luck to you two on your next deals with amarbor.

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^ u obviouly didnt notice the smiley at the end of it

3 this time , hope u notice them now, only max of 3 smileys allowed before a warning :bleh:

the last one makes it 4.

now i understand why you receive so many infractions

 

[Mephistopheles]

this is hopeless and im officially bored after repeating the same sh!t all over.

i guess if that doesnt render him guilty then i dont know what will to you two.

all i can do is wish good luck to you two on your next deals with amarbor.

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the last one makes it 4.

now i understand why you receive so many infractions

See, you still didn't understand....its not about whether he is guilty or not, FYI I think he really is guilty with some of his past deals with members here

I feel like banging my head on the wall! :chair::bangin:

Anyways I've had enough of it..

 

[Party Monger]

I have my own share of bitterness for Amarbir, its not about Amarbir please...but some things are just unreasonable

I've tried my best to show you why nothing here is unreasonable, trust me, we at Te are a forgiving lot, but this thing has gone to its crescendo..

 

[luckyishere]

See, you still didn't understand....its not about whether he is guilty or not, FYI I think he really is guilty with some of his past deals with members here
I feel like banging my head on the wall! :chair::bangin:

Anyways I've had enough of it..

Please don't bang your head on wall. After your replies we all feel like doing that..Amarbir english as language isn't too strong otherwise i would have felt its him who is writing to defend himself from your account. But that is ruled out but there can be several other reasons for you and johnie to write the same old thing over and over again. When earlier i noticed johnie was kinda in peace suddenly 1 page after he jumps up in his favor so much. I wonder if johnie received some offer from Amarbir in PM to defend him {though i also feel amarbir can't even spend money on himself why will he give something to someone to defend him (could again be a false promise lol)}

You might have had a good experience with him but 100 other negative responses cannot be a coincidence. You say he doesn't cheat and cheating is like if he keeps money and doesn't send the item or gives a refund. Consider my case :- a 500GB seagate HDD of mine is till stuck with him which he refused to send even after giving him money months ago, now what do u have to comment on this? Can your words solve it NO. if you can do something about it please go ahead and say and if not there is no point of being a Big mouth, you both are just making a fool of yourself !!!

@Mephistopheles

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.â€
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

[nash8789]

Please don't bang your head on wall. After your replies we all feel like doing that..Amarbir english as language isn't too strong otherwise i would have felt its him who is writing to defend himself from your account. But that is ruled out but there can be several other reasons for you and johnie to write the same old thing over and over again. When earlier i noticed johnie was kinda in peace suddenly 1 page after he jumps up in his favor so much. I wonder if johnie received some offer from Amarbir in PM to defend him {though i also feel amarbir can't even spend money on himself why will he give something to someone to defend him (could again be a false promise lol)}

You might have had a good experience with him but 100 other negative responses cannot be a coincidence. You say he doesn't cheat and cheating is like if he keeps money and doesn't send the item or gives a refund. Consider my case :- a 500GB seagate HDD of mine is till stuck with him which he refused to send even after giving him money months ago, now what do u have to comment on this? Can your words solve it NO. if you can do something about it please go ahead and say and if not there is no point of being a Big mouth, you both are just making a fool of yourself !!!

@Mephistopheles

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

- Martin Luther King, Jr.

Amar:Johnie Johnie!!!

John:Yes papa!!!

Amar:eat my sugar!!

John:Yes papa!!!

Amar:Lick my a$$

John:Yes papa!!

 

[apextwin146]

TE instills a sense of security into me while dealing with dealers here. I know that the members here are extremely helpful and in many cases have gone out of their way to ensure Deals happen in a correct way or to correct the deals that have gone awry.
So i am not really scared while dealing online here in TE and the reason is its members.

The same cannot be said about Amarbir & his online forums.There have been threads in his own forum regarding his crude behavior, delays, refund problems which were promptly deleted by his Forum Mods. If you search on Google you will find Blog posts etc of such. Most of the people who have been dealing online would know of this online.

Now lets suppose some NEw Member XYZ joins TE. He goes through many Horror stories of Amarbir on the internet but he sees him listed as a Dealer Here. Immediately he would think that this time he is not alone in this deal with Amarbir but he is backed by TE, a sense of security. Now some delays take place,deal dsnt go through. Its safe to assume that he will open up a thread on TE to highlight his disappointment, He would blame its member,Mods and what not. This would hurt TEs image for sure.
So what TE has to decide is that if TE collectively wants to take such a Risk with such severe consequences.
Of course there is every possibility that he might not screw up to such an extent.

Frankly speaking i stopped dealing with Amarbir when he went off from TE. I mean most of the Equipment he sells is High End and no one wants to take a Risk by going on some online dealers words about availability. The moment he came into TE i sent him a message about Brainwavz. Thats the kind of security TE brings to me and i hope it continues to be like this.

 

[Alias]

From the above post from Nash, i am not sure who is at fault here with his episode with Amarbir coz he himself doesnt seem to be very mature.

Guys, cant we have a civil discussion here? Aren't we going a little overboard with the rants and hate? And those who are having this discussion in the name that Amarbir is tarnishing TEs image, please note that this discussion thread itself is a reflection of the TE image.

Like someone mentioned above, these days TE seems to be only about Market feedback and Ebay coupons. Wtf is going on around here? Good grief!

 

[bottle]

Looks like the thread seems to have degraded into a mudslinging match and certain people can't maintain a civil tone in their posts. If there are any updates to Amarbirs dealer status we will make an announcement and let you all know. Till then, closing thread