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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Nemesis" data-source="post: 2024777" data-attributes="member: 632"><p>^^ Sorry, I am not talking about Wikipedias opinion on Net neutrality. Apparently, every group seems to have their own colored opinion of net neutrality. ISPs, businesses and the consumers all want a version of net neutrality that is favorable to themselves and they are ready to change definitions for each market or choose to support or not support it.</p><p> </p><p>I am talking about net neutrality from a completely neutral angle. Net neutrality in its purest form is all about how service providers are treating data traffic in a fair manner. Using the example of the Flipkart deal, The ISP is actually charging money whether you browse flipkart or amazon with the only difference being who is footing the bill. The ISPs neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with customer costs or business practices outside the scope of the ISP. Their angle is that they are charging for bandwidth regardless of which service you end up using. Net neutrality is about traffic fairness, not about business fairness. There are a different set of rules and in some countries laws to deal with any business unfairness.</p><p></p><p>From an ISP standpoint, If flipkart is allowed to pay for its customers, the ISP cannot say no to Amazon or some other competitor who wants to do the same. If that business doesn't want to do it, it is not the ISP's problem. The only thing is that the ISP cannot start penalizing Amazon or their customers because of that business decision. As long as they don't do that, they are being neutral.</p><p></p><p>As I said before, the only concern with regard to these sort of deals is that somewhere down the line, the ISP may actually be prompted to, or voluntarily favor one over their competitors or penalize the competition. This is what needs to be prevented. Just because it can happen somewhere down the line does not mean that Flipkart paying for its customers is in self a violation of neutrality. Its like US Govt is setting up surveillance on any body with a Muslim name or adding them to the flight travel black lists.</p><p></p><p>Having standard net neutrality rules will automatically prevent preferential treatment by removing any incentives that the ISP may have from this sort of deal. If an ISP is getting paid whether its from the service owner or customer and they are not getting any additional benefit from the deal, why would they bother with any special treatment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Nemesis, post: 2024777, member: 632"] ^^ Sorry, I am not talking about Wikipedias opinion on Net neutrality. Apparently, every group seems to have their own colored opinion of net neutrality. ISPs, businesses and the consumers all want a version of net neutrality that is favorable to themselves and they are ready to change definitions for each market or choose to support or not support it. I am talking about net neutrality from a completely neutral angle. Net neutrality in its purest form is all about how service providers are treating data traffic in a fair manner. Using the example of the Flipkart deal, The ISP is actually charging money whether you browse flipkart or amazon with the only difference being who is footing the bill. The ISPs neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with customer costs or business practices outside the scope of the ISP. Their angle is that they are charging for bandwidth regardless of which service you end up using. Net neutrality is about traffic fairness, not about business fairness. There are a different set of rules and in some countries laws to deal with any business unfairness. From an ISP standpoint, If flipkart is allowed to pay for its customers, the ISP cannot say no to Amazon or some other competitor who wants to do the same. If that business doesn't want to do it, it is not the ISP's problem. The only thing is that the ISP cannot start penalizing Amazon or their customers because of that business decision. As long as they don't do that, they are being neutral. As I said before, the only concern with regard to these sort of deals is that somewhere down the line, the ISP may actually be prompted to, or voluntarily favor one over their competitors or penalize the competition. This is what needs to be prevented. Just because it can happen somewhere down the line does not mean that Flipkart paying for its customers is in self a violation of neutrality. Its like US Govt is setting up surveillance on any body with a Muslim name or adding them to the flight travel black lists. Having standard net neutrality rules will automatically prevent preferential treatment by removing any incentives that the ISP may have from this sort of deal. If an ISP is getting paid whether its from the service owner or customer and they are not getting any additional benefit from the deal, why would they bother with any special treatment. [/QUOTE]
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