Graphic Cards Graphic card for autocad and Google Sketchup Software Kindly Advise

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kunalthesarkar

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Hi guys,
planning to buy an assembled computer from lamington road, keeeping the following specs in mind for my architect. Kindly advise me the graphics card as I have no idea about it, Just heard that 1 GB DDr5 is the latest than DDR3 as a lay man.
Config which I am going to purchase will be

Core i5 second generation 2400
Motherboard not decided which one. Please advice this too
Ram Corsair 8 GB non ECC
SMPS may be 400-450 W corsair or seasonic.
screen Benq 22inch
500gb Hard disk,
Windows 7 pro
(you can suggest me if the config is right or wrong keeping in mind my budget to rs 50000/-)

Basically this is for my architect where he spends most of the time in AutoCAD, Google sketch up and coral draw. Keeping this in mind I was assuming a decent graphics card for max rs8000/- keeping 2-3 years in mind to get outdated, so that I can upgrade when something new comes come in 2-3 years.

Please suggest me what is to be done as I want to buy it by Saturday.
Thanks in advance
 
Here's what you'd get-
i5 2400-10.5k
Intel DH67BL-B3-5.6k
Corsair XMS3 2X4GB-3.5k OR Gskill Ripjaws 2X4GB-3.5k
Msi Twin Frozrii GTX560Ti-14k
Seasonic S12ii 620W-4.6k OR Corsair VX550W-4.5k
Dell ST2220-8.5k
Segate 500GB HDD-4k
Windows 7-4-5k
Hope this helps.:)
 
Jakob said:
Here's what you'd get-
i5 2400-10.5k
Intel DH67BL-B3-5.6k
Corsair XMS3 2X4GB-3.5k OR Gskill Ripjaws 2X4GB-3.5k
Msi Twin Frozrii GTX560Ti-14k
Seasonic S12ii 620W-4.6k OR Corsair VX550W-4.5k
Dell ST2220-8.5k
Segate 500GB HDD-4k
Windows 7-4-5k
Hope this helps.:)
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hey thanks for a quick reply,
i am going in for windows 7 pro as i feel this will be good for my business (correct me if i am wrong.)
the graphics card which you have mentioned is superb but it is too too expensive . could you give me 2-3 options so that i can make my budget.
Also is the core i5 which i have chosen good or core i7 is preferred for this config(please suggest.)
 
kunalthesarkar said:
hey thanks for a quick reply,
i am going in for windows 7 pro as i feel this will be good for my business (correct me if i am wrong.)
the graphics card which you have mentioned is superb but it is too too expensive . could you give me 2-3 options so that i can make my budget.
Also is the core i5 which i have chosen good or core i7 is preferred for this config(please suggest.)
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I dont think you will neee i7. Better same some 7-8k on processor and get 560gtx-ti tf2. I have this card and i5 processor. Rendering is damn fast in heavy softwares. I dont think softwares like autocad will need more resources.

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Rahul++ said:
I dont think you will neee i7. Better same some 7-8k on processor and get 560gtx-ti tf2. I have this card and i5 processor. Rendering is damn fast in heavy softwares. I dont think softwares like autocad will need more resources.

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how much will this graphics card cost 560gtx-ti tf2 ?
 
kunalthesarkar said:
how much will this graphics card cost 560gtx-ti tf2 ?
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You are in Bombay right, should be available between ~12900/- [cheapest] -->14500/-. If you can hold of purchasing a graphics card immediately, I would recommend that once nVidia releases the GTX 660Ti you will get the coveted "2 -->3 years" cover more effectively at a lower power consumption.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!!
 
Buy a cheap quadro or get a radeon 6850 and mod it with firepro drivers. Stay away from geforce 4xx/5xx/6xx series if you want to use any professional apps.
 
If Autocad and Google Sketch up is your primary usage then dont waste money by buying an High-end rig. you can smoothly use those with a PC @ around 25-30k . If you want to game on this then its a totally different story. Choose wisely . You can buy an Android or some Pro Gear like Mouse & Mouse Pad etc etc.

OT: Yayyy Crossed 1000 Posts....
 
challapradyumna said:
If Autocad and Google Sketch up is your primary usage then dont waste money by buying an High-end rig. you can smoothly use those with a PC @ around 25-30k . If you want to game on this then its a totally different story. Choose wisely . You can buy an Android or some Pro Gear like Mouse & Mouse Pad etc etc.

OT: Yayyy Crossed 1000 Posts....
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could you give me a good config which according to you will solve the issue.
 
If you want to use any professional apps. Then stay away from nvidia because it take much power to run, and for professional apps you have to use a less power consumption graphic card. So go for ATI card like 6xx or 7xxx series. Hopes this will help. Cheers
 
This is what i would go for

i3 2100 - 6.9k
Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2H -3.4k
Anything over 4GB of ram is an overkill if its not for gaming - Gskill Ripjaws 2x2 GB -1.7k
SAPPHIRE HD 6570 1GB - 4k
I'm not exactly sure about this but Corsair VS450 should be enough 2.2k
Dell ST2220-8.5k
Segate 500GB HDD-4k
Windows 7-4-5k
Total - 36k because of the extra OS.

This is much lower than what Jakob has suggested but i have used these softwares and they even run on a dual core with 512mb ram at my college smoothly.See my rig in sig , i even run Catia ,Solidworks,Pro-E Flawlessly and lag free.
 
challapradyumna said:

Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2H -3.4k
SAPPHIRE HD 6570 1GB - 4k
I'm not exactly sure about this but Corsair VS450 should be enough 2.2k
Segate 500GB HDD-4k
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Hey Challapradyumna I agree that the above RIG will be fine for now, but what about the "2 -->3 years clause" that OP has slipped in?

The H61 chipset is a component that I would never recommend until it is the most base of builds, it doesn't support SATA III ports natively, doesn't support RAID [the Intel Ark H61 page]. Is an expensive proposition in this case when you can get a H67 based solution in the form of a DH67-BL for ~5400/- OR MSi H67MA-E35 ~4900/-.

RAM these days is dirt cheap and enforcing dual-channel is the best way of gaining a small performance increment.

For graphics card, I have heavily favoured nVidia cards over AMD / ATi offerings because [only if user is going to be heavily invested in productivity applications for gaming viva le AMD] --
  • For productivity applications, nVidia has got better plug-ins.
  • Autodesk and Adobe are in tie-ins with nVidia, infact the 3Ds Max and MAYA Mental Ray renderer is owned by nVidia, they are also developing better render engines in the form of I-Ray.
  • nVidia CUDA is also a more mature architecture for third-party applications and with the requisite plug-ins performs pretty well.

Ummm... the Corsair VS450W SMPS is a localized replacement [only for India and China] for the stellar Corsair CX V2 430W. It has garnered a lot of flak for using cheap components, poor capacitors and in my books this is enough to seal its fate. For more on the topic head here and here [Post #8 and #9].

Please be more specific on the hard-drive edition, newer Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 have hit the market, they have a lower warranty, for more details go through the family tree here.

Hope this clarifies the topic, Cheerio!!
 
@challapradyumna- your config is really interesting ,just want to check will this work for the next 2.5-3 years keeping in mind the graphic card and all. also i check in the dealer section ,techxtreme has listed HD6570 2GB DDR3 @ Rs. 4,242+ SHIPPING. now is this the same or which you have mentioned is better.

why i am asking you this as i am totaly new to all the graphics card specs and all .
 
you should go for leadtek quadro 600 for 9k
or ati firepro v4800 for 8.5k

quadro will work great with autocad. just check if google sketchup makes use of the quadro.
 
currently my architect is using the dell optiplex comp for which i have created separate thread too
LINK-
http://www.techenclave.com/graphic-cards/dell-optiplex-360-ati-hd-131735/
i have mentioned in this thread that what will be the best possible thing to upgrade this comp in terms of graphic only ,
than you will get a better idea what will be the best for him .

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FYI-
guys i got a mail from dell that they have a scheme from 21 May to 1June 2012 and they are giving me a superb screen professional series P2412H monitor for rs11100 plus octroi in my area. this is the best deal and monitor according to me and has 3 years advance exchange warranty too.

buying this monitor for sure. now if anybody else wants buy this its superb.

 
@ALPHA17 - I am not that educated in the internal components etc etc . I just wanted to make a point that for running autocad i7 is not required. These products are not so regularly updated as the creative suite . After 2004 , the next version is in 2007 ,next in 2010. They have also released a 2011 version but it is not that different. Alpha 17 suggest a rig that totals around 30 - 35k .
 
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just got the specifications of google sketch pro
For Windows XP
  • Software
    • SketchUp Pro 8: Microsoft Service Pack 2+.
    • Microsoft® Internet Explorer 7.0 or higher.
    • Google SketchUp Pro requires .NET Framework version 2.0. For more information about the .NET framework, click here.Note: SketchUp will run on 64bit versions of Windows, but it will run as a 32bit application.
  • Recommended hardware
    • 2+ GHz processor.
    • 2+ GB RAM.
    • 500 MB of available hard-disk space.
    • 3D class Video Card with 512+ MB of memory or higher. Please ensure that the video card driver supports OpenGL version 1.5 or higher and up to date.SketchUp's performance relies heavily the graphics card driver and it's ability to support OpenGL 1.5 or higher. Historically, people have seen problems with Intel based cards with SketchUp. We don't recommend using these graphics cards with SketchUp at this time.
    • 3 button, scroll-wheel mouse.
    • Some SketchUp features require an active internet connection.
  • Minimum hardware
    • 1 GHz processor.
    • 512 MB RAM.
    • 300 MB of available hard-disk space.
    • 3D class Video Card with 128 MB of memory or higher. Please ensure that the video card driver supports OpenGL version 1.5 or higher and up to date.



For Windows Vista and Windows 7
  • SoftwareSketchUp will run on 64bit versions of Windows, but it will run as a 32bit application.
    • Microsoft® Internet Explorer 7.0 or higher.
    • Google SketchUp Pro requires .NET Framework version 2.0. For more information about the .NET framework, click here.
  • Recommended hardware
    • 2+ GHz processor.
    • 2+ GB RAM.
    • 500 MB of available hard-disk space.
    • 3D class Video Card with 512+ MB of memory or higher. Please ensure that the video card driver supports OpenGL version 1.5 or higher and up to date.SketchUp's performance relies heavily the graphics card driver and it's ability to support OpenGL 1.5 or higher. Historically, people have seen problems with Intel based cards with SketchUp. We don't recommend using these graphics cards with SketchUp at this time.
    • 3 button, scroll-wheel mouse.
    • Some SketchUp features require an active internet connection.
  • Minimum hardware
    • 1 GHz processor.
    • 1 GB RAM.
    • 16 GB of total hard-disk space.
    • 300 MB of free hard-disk space.
    • 3D class Video Card with 256 MB of memory or higher. Please ensure that the video card driver supports OpenGL version 1.5 or higher and up to date.

Now could you tell me which graphic card will be more useful keeping in mind autocad and google sketchup pro and also coreldraw

 
@kunalthesarkar
Go for Nvidia 550Ti because you are buying a 450 watts PSU. If you take VX550 than go for 560Ti with ASUS or MSI company. Because nvidia give the best performance rather than ati in this range.
 
Chaos and stormblast are right.
AutoCAD and Sketchup both use CPU renderers. So get as much CPU power and RAM.
Only your viewport is GPU accelerated. So get a Quadro for better drivers.
Nvidia are crippling consumer graphics card drivers since the Geforce 400 series. People were getting lower viewport performance on Geforce 400 cards than 200 cards, which is why Chaos told you to avoid the Geforce 400/500/600 series.
Sketchup uses OpenGL.
Specviewperf 11 is a good OpenGL test.
SPECviewperf 11 benchmark results | Mbah.net
See how the midrange GTX 560 gets thrashed by an entry level Quadro 600.
 
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