Graphic Cards Gtx 560 ti 1gb vs gtx 560 2gb

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I will upgrade components one at a time but now i need a graphics card urgently....
when i upgrade monitor it will be 1080p so i want 2gb graphics card to be future proof
but the 560 ti is much faster thsn 560 so i am confused.....a palit 560 ti 2gb is also available but dont know current price......which should i choose??

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500watt intex smps
 
Ray said:
I will upgrade components one at a time but now i need a graphics card urgently....
when i upgrade monitor it will be 1080p so i want 2gb graphics card to be future proof
but the 560 ti is much faster thsn 560 so i am confused.....a palit 560 ti 2gb is also available but dont know current price......which should i choose??
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Which SMPS do you have? That will be the deciding factor.

Also between both these cards, I suggest that you take neither and go for the AMD HD7850 2GB for good current performance and future proofing. Cheerio!
 
Framebuffer size makes little to no difference at resolutions at or below 1920x. If you use lots of AA it might make a difference but with the sort of framerates those kind of cards put out, AA will cripple performance too much to be used anyway.

Obviouly if you only play very old games that even the cheaper card can handle over 60fps, then you might get the 560 and crank up the detail. For example, the newest game I play is Deus Ex 3, which is not very demanding graphics-wise and even a card like the 560 will spit out around 50fps on a FHD monitor at max detail.

Faster cards always work better at low resolutions (yes, 1080p is a low resolution) and only once you cross into the 2560x displays that you have to choose the tradeoff between speed and memory size.

Remember CPU performance has a much larger impact at low resolution gaming than at higher ones (where the GPU becomes the primary bottleneck), so choose your rig wisely to balance the performances out properly for the games you play and the resolutions you choose to play them at.
 
but i have heard new games like bf3 almost uses up 1gb and using custom texture in games like gta4 requires more than 1 gb for good frame rates........last time i bought a graphics card 8600gts 256mb was considered more than enough but a year later gta 4 came out and i could not run the game becaure gta 4 requires a lot more vram to run.......so you see thats why i want 2gb...
 
Ray said:
but i have heard new games like bf3 almost uses up 1gb and using custom texture in games like gta4 requires more than 1 gb for good frame rates........last time i bought a graphics card 8600gts 256mb was considered more than enough but a year later gta 4 came out and i could not run the game becaure gta 4 requires a lot more vram to run.......so you see thats why i want 2gb...
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Those are one off cases. Different advances in game technology throw up different challenges at the components we use and can recommend, as a rule of thumb more V-RAM does not equate to better performance in these cases, yes if you plan to play the latest and greatest in the coming years at 1080p with maximum details then you would require massive V-RAM on your cards and the graphic card itself will need to be at-least a HD7950 / GTX 670 OR higher.

But what you are trying to state is thanks to its larger V-RAM the GTX560 will suddenly perform better than a GPU that completely routs it with 1GB of V-RAM. Akin to saying that if in the earlier days the 8600GT would have come with 1GB of V-RAM it would have performed at par with a 8800GT. This is a very old debate and more V-RAM on a low-end / mid-range card does not contribute to an increase in frame-rates, it is just a ploy by companies to mislead and to con the common end-user.

You still have not told us what SMPS is your system running on?

Sorry did not notice you had edited your first post, okay before buying a GPU you need a good SMPS. Where are you based and where will you get these components from?

SMPS that will serve you well for now and make it possible to be upgraded in the future are --
  • Corsair GS500W ~4000/-
  • Seasonic S12II 520W ~4200/-
  • Corsair TX v2650W ~5800/-
After you acquire this then we can think about a GPU for the future.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!

cranky said:
Remember CPU performance has a much larger impact at low resolution gaming than at higher ones (where the GPU becomes the primary bottleneck), so choose your rig wisely to balance the performances out properly for the games you play and the resolutions you choose to play them at.
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Agreed but OP has mentioned he might upgrade his RIG piecemeal and for now he needs a graphics card.
Ray said:
I will upgrade components one at a time but now i need a graphics card urgently.
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P.S. -- the senior Core 2Duo on his RIG will be a bottleneck to even a HD7770 GHz edition in my opinion.
 
Ray said:
yeah i updated my first post its 500w intex smps
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You still have not told us what SMPS is your system running on?

Sorry did not notice you had edited your first post, okay before buying a GPU you need a good SMPS. Where are you based and where will you get these components from?

SMPS that will serve you well for now and make it possible to be upgraded in the future are --
  • Corsair GS500W ~4000/-
  • Seasonic S12II 520W ~4200/-
  • Corsair TX v2650W ~5800/-
After you acquire this then we can think about a GPU for the future.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!
 
smps during the pujas then but the 500w intex smps is capable of of running and wont damage my card right?
and so you're telling that instead of spending extra money for more vram i should get the better model i can within my budget........i want to know down the line which card will last longer,the superior card with 1gb ram or the slightly slower card with 2gb ram.....cause eventually what ever i buy will get old and i dont have the system to run the games max setting anyways
 
Ray said:
smps during the pujas then but the 500w intex smps is capable of of running and wont damage my card right?
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Precisely the misconception, that 500W SMPS is most probably not spewing more than ~300W of power (that also very inefficiently). Get the SMPS first and then a graphics card.

Yes we are telling you to go for a better GPU with lesser V-RAM rather than a inferior product with extra V-RAM; the HD7850 2GB is what you should aim for but if that is too expensive then you can look at the HD6950 2GB / HD6970 2GB.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!
 
i checked and the 8600gts has a consumption of 71 watts and the hd7850 consumption of 101 watt max.........so my smps should be able to run it safely??
 
Let's assume that your '500 Watt' SMPS is capable of 20A on the 12V rail (and here, I'm being very generous). That is 240W, regardless of what the label says I would say that's what the supply can do when fully at its limit.

The hard disk requires about 1A from that rail, so let's say 12W gone there. Let's add a couple fans and round it off to 20W.

The CPU is 65W. We are at 85W. After you add the 100W from the card you are up to 185W, which is 77 percent peak power for that rail.

At that kind of stress, there's no telling when the PSU will blow, and what it will take along with it. At the present you are running at ~65 percent capacity which though high is still within reason.

First get the right power supply, and get the card later.
 
Ray said:
i checked and the 8600gts has a consumption of 71 watts and the hd7850 consumption of 101 watt max.........so my smps should be able to run it safely??
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Okay no kidding but the HD7850 will draw a lot more than that on load, I am saying that simply because it has got a PCIe 6-pin power connector. This supplies the card with an extra 75W of power, this in addition to the 150W the card draws from the PCIe slot. So on idle it will be gulping ~100W but on load I will say liberally that will sip close to ~190W.
 
@ALPHA17, you are comparing total system consumption (at wall) with PSU inefficiencies in the link you have posted.

The stated power consumption of the 7850 is 130W. While some samples can be below this, none will be more than this. The exception, of course, is when you crank up Powertune to +20%, which takes you above the PCIe limit. There is a statement that puts the TDP at a bit lower than the board power.

For all intents and purposes one must be conservative when working with a name-brand, tier-1 PSU manufacturer, and absolutely cautious when dealing with Indian pretenders who imports knock-off, bottom-of-the-barrel products from sweatshops in China - the Intex, iBall and Zebronics of the world. Those power supplies have no direct relationship between the label on the box and the stuff inside the box, and in ten different samples what is inside the box will be different.

Even at the 101W of that specific tested card, that power supply is on the brink. If the TS is very keen on taking chances on his hardware, it's his money and his chances. One shouldn't interfere, though one is free to express their fear. I they are willing to trust a card worth 15,000 Rupees on a power supply one-twentieth the price and guaranteed to fail and destroy other hardware, that is their call.
 
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cranky said:
For all intents and purposes one must be conservative when working with a name-brand, tier-1 PSU manufacturer, and absolutely cautious when dealing with Indian pretenders who imports knock-off, bottom-of-the-barrel products from sweatshops in China - the Intex, iBall and Zebronics of the world. Those power supplies have no direct relationship between the label on the box and the stuff inside the box, and in ten different samples what is inside the box will be different.
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I know that and that is why had suggested the OP to get a Corsair GS500W to start with, now the ball is in his court. Problem is, if something would have gone wrong he would have come here again asking why we had not forewarned him the same.

Thanks for correcting me, I did not know that Anandtech benches included the power consumption of the entire RIG along with the graphics card.
 
corsair cx600 vs gs500...which one is better??around same price but cx600 100w more...so what features do the cx600 lack??are those features worth it??

does having 600w smps mean that as soon as i turn on the computer it will consume 600w till i turn it off or it only consumes only that much that the system requires(say 300w)??
 
Ray said:
corsair cx600 vs gs500...which one is better??around same price but cx600 100w more...so what features do the cx600 lack??are those features worth it??

does having 600w smps mean that as soon as i turn on the computer it will consume 600w till i turn it off or it only consumes only that much that the system requires(say 300w)??
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The wattage on the SMPS box / package does not signify its efficiency and effective performance.

The GS500W is a better SMPS than the CX v2600W because the former has better components used in it, better and more efficient capacitors. Also different SMPS are rated for different operating efficiency, the Corsair CX series is the 'builder series' basically the cheapest branded stuff with Corsair slapped onto it. The GS is a slight step-up but if you want true performance components from Corsair it is suggested that you go for the Corsair TX v2650W (and nothing less) from Corsair's 'Enthusiast series'.

Between these (GS series and CX series), I will suggest that you go for neither and simply get a Seasonic S12II 520W ~4500/-.

Hope this helps, Cheerio!
 
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