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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Nemesis" data-source="post: 2064196" data-attributes="member: 632"><p>^^ There is nothing in those links to disprove my point that AMD is not working with game developers as close as nVidia does. In fact those links highlight the fact that AMD is not able to provide and sell competing similar solutions to the game developers. Show me proof where a game with gameworks features switched off still has nVidia libraries actively detecting that its an AMD GPU and then deliberately compromise the rendering flow in some manner.</p><p></p><p>Gameworks is a library that is optimized to run on nVidia cards. There is absolutely no reason for nVidia to spend time optimizing it for GPU's other than nVidia. It is perfectly logical to assume that the alternative path when nVidia GPU is not detected will be to assume that none of high end features are available and work for the least hardware denomination. i.e. it will run it as its its on integrated GPU with bare features. AMD was always free to provide similar solutions of their own hardware and work with game developers for giving cutting edge features. There are games that took advantage of various AMD only technology in the past like AMD 3DNow! and nobody cried foul over it being compared to Intel CPU's. More recently, its Mantle and no reviewer was expected to not compare games optimized for Mantle against nvdia GPUs. If AMD can work with game developers to support Mantle, they can definitely work with developers for the other game works like features too.</p><p></p><p>If nVidia had been absuing their deals with game developers, there would be games that are built completely around proprietary nVidia technology or technology that they own currently like Physx for example. Why is physix still treated as an optional extra. Show me one major game where gameplay is centered around Physics implemented through Physx in such a critical manner that it breaks the game without it.</p><p></p><p>So stop with the overarching pity just because they happen to be an underdog. As I said in another thread, AMD's situation is not a result of some big bad wolves trying to bully them. They had the people, the funds a reputation in the industry to succeed. Its its own bad business decisions, incompetency and wastage of resources that thought them here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Nemesis, post: 2064196, member: 632"] ^^ There is nothing in those links to disprove my point that AMD is not working with game developers as close as nVidia does. In fact those links highlight the fact that AMD is not able to provide and sell competing similar solutions to the game developers. Show me proof where a game with gameworks features switched off still has nVidia libraries actively detecting that its an AMD GPU and then deliberately compromise the rendering flow in some manner. Gameworks is a library that is optimized to run on nVidia cards. There is absolutely no reason for nVidia to spend time optimizing it for GPU's other than nVidia. It is perfectly logical to assume that the alternative path when nVidia GPU is not detected will be to assume that none of high end features are available and work for the least hardware denomination. i.e. it will run it as its its on integrated GPU with bare features. AMD was always free to provide similar solutions of their own hardware and work with game developers for giving cutting edge features. There are games that took advantage of various AMD only technology in the past like AMD 3DNow! and nobody cried foul over it being compared to Intel CPU's. More recently, its Mantle and no reviewer was expected to not compare games optimized for Mantle against nvdia GPUs. If AMD can work with game developers to support Mantle, they can definitely work with developers for the other game works like features too. If nVidia had been absuing their deals with game developers, there would be games that are built completely around proprietary nVidia technology or technology that they own currently like Physx for example. Why is physix still treated as an optional extra. Show me one major game where gameplay is centered around Physics implemented through Physx in such a critical manner that it breaks the game without it. So stop with the overarching pity just because they happen to be an underdog. As I said in another thread, AMD's situation is not a result of some big bad wolves trying to bully them. They had the people, the funds a reputation in the industry to succeed. Its its own bad business decisions, incompetency and wastage of resources that thought them here. [/QUOTE]
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