Budget 51-70k Help need for Set up a New PC

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bluecrow

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Hello folks,

I have just gone through it, a really great forum, lot of helping hand and geeks over here,
Hope I also get early reply.

I am planning to buy a new PC for Gaming and 3D modeling purpose.

My budget and requirements are as follows, But I am not sure whether these are compatible or not.
  • Budget: 55K
  • Components that you have in mind for your new PC:
CPU - Intel Core i5 3570 Boxed 3.4 Ghz. Socket 1155

M/B - 4Intel Asrock Z77 Chipset Z77 Extreme4 1155 Pin
(is this compatible with CPU Perfectly?
I have checked G.skill site and found that its perfect with Gskill DDR3
Ram)
Or

INTEL DH 77KC MOTHER BOARD – ( Not sure whether it perfectly fit with
Gskill DDr3)


Memory - DDR III G.Skill 4gb X 2 8GB Kit F3-12800CL9D-8gbSR 1600 mhz. Sniper

HDD - Seagate SATA 1Tb 7200rpm 32 MB Cache

Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 371 USB 3.0 without SMPS

SMPS - Corsair 600W GS600 Gamer
(do you think it is good enough for gaming ?)

Graphics Card - Card PCI Express Quadro 600 1gb with 2 Outputs

Optical Drive - DVD Writer LG OEM SATA Black 24X

Monitor - Dell P2212h 22 inch

And finally which UPS will you suggest for this configuration ?


It will be so nice if I get an early reply. Thanks in advance.

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i7 3770 - Rs 18000
Asus P8H77-V LE - Rs 9800

or

FX8350 - Rs 12000
Asus M5A97Evo - Rs 7100

Get them as primary components. Both are superb,for your work.
 
@ASHISH65
What is the use of 620W PSU in above requirement? Don't you think 430/450/520W PSU is enough to take load of above devices?

@bluecrow -> Any specific reason for choosing Quadro 600? It is DDR3 card, not suitable for gaming or 3D modeling. You can stick to Nvidia brand if only that suits your purpose but better go for DDR5 1GB in same.
 
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@bluecrow Its a simple thumb rule, DDR5 GPU is always better then DDR3 in terms of performance. GTX 650 Ti is better choice than Quadro 600.

Also when people have budget limitation they prefer to have AMD than Intel. If not FX, you can check for AMD Trinity option it have integrated GPU and its performance is also good. But lastly its your call.
 
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bluecrow said:
Hello folks,

I have just gone through it, a really great forum, lot of helping hand and geeks over here,
Hope I also get early reply.

I am planning to buy a new PC for Gaming and 3D modeling purpose.

My budget and requirements are as follows, But I am not sure whether these are compatible or not.
  • Budget: 55K
  • Components that you have in mind for your new PC:
CPU - Intel Core i5 3570 Boxed 3.4 Ghz. Socket 1155

M/B - 4Intel Asrock Z77 Chipset Z77 Extreme4 1155 Pin
(is this compatible with CPU Perfectly?
I have checked G.skill site and found that its perfect with Gskill DDR3
Ram)
Or

INTEL DH 77KC MOTHER BOARD – ( Not sure whether it perfectly fit with
Gskill DDr3)


Memory - DDR III G.Skill 4gb X 2 8GB Kit F3-12800CL9D-8gbSR 1600 mhz. Sniper

HDD - Seagate SATA 1Tb 7200rpm 32 MB Cache

Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 371 USB 3.0 without SMPS

SMPS - Corsair 600W GS600 Gamer
(do you think it is good enough for gaming ?)

Graphics Card - Card PCI Express Quadro 600 1gb with 2 Outputs

Optical Drive - DVD Writer LG OEM SATA Black 24X

Monitor - Dell P2212h 22 inch

And finally which UPS will you suggest for this configuration ?


It will be so nice if I get an early reply. Thanks in advance.
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AMD Config

MB: Asus M5A97 R2.0 -6500
CPU: AMD FX 8320 -9800
GPU; Sapphire HD7770 1GB -7800
Cabinet: Corsair 300R -3900
PSU: Corsair GS500 -3900
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz -4000
Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo -2200
Optical Drive: Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100
Storage Drive: Western Digital Black 1TB -6000
Monitor: Dell 22" ST2220L LED -8000
KB + Mouse: Logitech G100 Gaming Combo -1600
TOTAL -54800.



Intel Config

MB: Asrock Z77 Pro 4 -7500
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570 -12500
GPU; Sapphire HD7770 1GB -7800
Cabinet: Corsair 300R -3900
PSU: Corsair GS500 -3900
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz -4000
Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo -2200
Optical Drive: Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100
Storage Drive: Western Digital Black 1TB -6000
Monitor: Dell 22" ST2220L LED -8000
KB + Mouse: Logitech G100 Gaming Combo -1600
TOTAL -58500.
 
Stick to Nvidia GPU if 3D-modelling is your priority (CUDA). The GTX 650 Ti will work very well (no need for a Quadro).

PSU - go for Seasonic SII12 - 520W

Get these extra fans for your cabinet - it will help very much in overall cooling (remember your cabinet comes with just 1 fan - 1 x 120mm rear fan).

This is a full HD 21.5" LED monitor with IPS panel (this is better than the Dell that you have chosen) - http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?...tegory_id=114&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

This is a cheaper & highly recommended motherboard - Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H ~ 4199/-
HDD - Use seagate 1TB - 3869/-

With the money saved from above - see if you can fit in a 128GB SSD drive [for your OS + Main apps & caching purpose] - your system will rock with speed.

Later on increase you RAM to a total of 16GB (it will be needed for your 3D modelling and rendering) - go for a minimum of 1600Mhz and NOT 1333MHz.

Cheers
Terry
 
Thank you Sky, it has helped me some how.
bssunil, terence_fdes i will keep these config in mind while i am doing final one.
vvvinashhh my first preference is as a tool. is there huge deference between DDR3 and DDR5?. my budget is for a GPU 10000.
 
bluecrow said:
Thank you Sky, it has helped me some how.
bssunil, terence_fdes i will keep these config in mind while i am doing final one.
vvvinashhh my first preference is as a tool. is there huge deference between DDR3 and DDR5?. my budget is for a GPU 10000.
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For GPU under 10k you can get Sapphire HD7790 1GB but it has not yet been released in India. For 2GB models it can go upto 12.5k in India. So enquire about it in local shops and on online as well.
 
@ OP What render er and softwares are you gonna use for your Pro work? Please elaborate a bit.[DOUBLEPOST=1368256388][/DOUBLEPOST]Yes DDR3 in GPU are generally clocked at 1600Mhz or a bit higher but a DDR5 generally is at 4800Mhz. So that does make a lot of difference. But even that depends on what you need the DDR clocks for....its very relative.
 
terence_fdes said:
Stick to Nvidia GPU if 3D-modelling is your priority (CUDA). The GTX 650 Ti will work very well (no need for a Quadro).

PSU - go for Seasonic SII12 - 520W

Get these extra fans for your cabinet - it will help very much in overall cooling (remember your cabinet comes with just 1 fan - 1 x 120mm rear fan).
This is much better - http://www.flipkart.com/cooler-mast...K6ZH&ref=3bdea289-447b-4a1a-9774-bf5f43c193e7

This is a full HD 21.5" LED monitor with IPS panel (this is better than the Dell that you have chosen) - http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php?...tegory_id=114&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

This is a cheaper & highly recommended motherboard - Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H ~ 4199/-
HDD - Use seagate 1TB - 3869/-

With the money saved from above - see if you can fit in a 128GB SSD drive [for your OS + Main apps & caching purpose] - your system will rock with speed.
+1
Do not forget SSD at all cost

Later on increase you RAM to a total of 16GB (it will be needed for your 3D modelling and rendering) - go for a minimum of 1600Mhz and NOT 1333MHz.
AFAIK it (1333 or 1600) doesn't matter when you have an ssd. It just won't make a difference (but if the price difference is small ..well that's a different case). Without ssd, higher frequency helps

Cheers
Terry
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bssunil said:
Intel Config

MB: Asrock Z77 Pro 4 -7500 ----- Why Z77 with i5 3570 ?
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570 -12500
GPU; Sapphire HD7770 1GB -7800
Cabinet: Corsair 300R -3900 ----- No need to spend this much on cabinet
PSU: Corsair GS500 -3900
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz -4000
Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo -2200 ----- As CPU cannot be overclocked, no need to buy a aftermarket cpu cooler
Optical Drive: Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100
Storage Drive: Western Digital Black 1TB -6000
Monitor: Dell 22" ST2220L LED -8000
KB + Mouse: Logitech G100 Gaming Combo -1600
TOTAL -58500.
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vvvinashhh said:
@ OP What render er and softwares are you gonna use for your Pro work? Please elaborate a bit.[DOUBLEPOST=1368256388]
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Yes this is a requirement
 
sky said:
@bluecrow -> Any specific reason for choosing Quadro 600? It is DDR3 card, not suitable for gaming or 3D modeling. You can stick to Nvidia brand if only that suits your purpose but better go for DDR5 1GB in same.
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You are joking right ? These are low end professional cards and are specially designed for such purposes. This is not a low end gaming card where you consider between ddr3 / ddr5 variants.
Check this please - http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphi...utperforms_GeForce_GTX_580_by_Five_Times.html
 
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hitesh12 said:
You are joking right ? These are low end professional cards and are specially designed for such purposes. This is not a low end gaming card where you consider between ddr3 / ddr5 variants.
Check this please - http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphi...utperforms_GeForce_GTX_580_by_Five_Times.html
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You are quoting a April 2011 report :mad: without understanding the fundamentals - "Price vs Performance vis-a-vis Cost-Benefits" in todays scenario. I am really tired right now (after a hectic weekend), so will not elaborate very much.

The debate of Quadro vs Desktop GPU's will never end. However, when you have a budget and your work is not "business oriented" or mission critical (where every minute counts as a profit or loss), it makes no sense to go for a Quadro. This is especially meaningful when you consider the low-end quadro's (I would also add the quadro 2000 esp when you compare it to a 660Ti or 670).

Quadro's are always priced 3-4 times more (and much more) than a comparable Desktop variant. At the topmost end - the Quadro Plex 7000 (9.5 lacs) or Tesla K20 GPU (1.58 lacs) performance [price vs benefits] can be matched with a Titan at 68k with a few compromises.

Also remember that Quadros perform best (midrange to high) only on workstation platforms (with dual processors) - and all this pushes up costs.

I have been working in the CGI industry for over 15 years and at work all our systems use Quadros (lowest is 2000 and highest is 5000), yet 98% of us, my colleagues at our homes (personal desktops) use normal Nvidia GTX GPU's and are very happy.

Lastly, if your really want to research any further - search through the articles here - they build quality "custom" solutions and have performed adequate tests to ascertain the benefits of Quadro/ Firepro vs desktop GPU's - http://www.pugetsystems.com/all_articles.php

Cheers
Terry
 
terence_fdes said:
You are quoting a April 2011 report :mad: without understanding the fundamentals - "Price vs Performance vis-a-vis Cost-Benefits" in todays scenario. I am really tired right now (after a hectic weekend), so will not elaborate very much.
What is wrong if is a 2 years old article ? It's not gonna change the fact Quadro 600 is better than gtx 580

The debate of Quadro vs Desktop GPU's will never end. However, when you have a budget and your work is not "business oriented" or mission critical (where every minute counts as a profit or loss), it makes no sense to go for a Quadro. This is especially meaningful when you consider the low-end quadro's (I would also add the quadro 2000 esp when you compare it to a 660Ti or 670).
Actually I had "business oriented" work or something like that in mind for OP and gave it more preference than gaming. But then again, OP has nowhere mentioned his preference

Quadro's are always priced 3-4 times more (and much more) than a comparable Desktop variant. At the topmost end - the Quadro Plex 7000 (9.5 lacs) or Tesla K20 GPU (1.58 lacs) performance [price vs benefits] can be matched with a Titan at 68k with a few compromises.

Also remember that Quadros perform best (midrange to high) only on workstation platforms (with dual processors) - and all this pushes up costs.

I have been working in the CGI industry for over 15 years and at work all our systems use Quadros (lowest is 2000 and highest is 5000), yet 98% of us, my colleagues at our homes (personal desktops) use normal Nvidia GTX GPU's and are very happy.
Well that's hell lot of time to know what will be best suitable so can't say about this. I'm have zero real life experience with all this, just speaking out of experience gained through net

Lastly, if your really want to research any further - search through the articles here - they build quality "custom" solutions and have performed adequate tests to ascertain the benefits of Quadro/ Firepro vs desktop GPU's - http://www.pugetsystems.com/all_articles.php
Yes would definitely like to research further. Can you give me the link of the articles directly ? Don't feel like searching through the list

Cheers
Terry
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