CPU/Mobo Intel does the full monty

TheMask said:
hey whats all the copper colored stuff on the prototype mobo? do they have that for the kids to crayon on that space ? :P
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Absolutely no clue :P I know exactly as much as u do from that article :)
 
I wonder how the hell can you disable integrated gfx on that thing??? Same as usual or is the integration too tight to allow it. In this case, disbling would mean switching off a component within the package. I suppose they could put in some pin for it, but how the hel would such a highly integrated vid controller help anyway? I mean, the onchip memory controller is faster, but what good is it speeding up a sucky onboard gfx unit?
But the VRM thing looks cool, will make all that CnQ and speedstep stuff much more stable, and it will also destroy some cryptography cracking techniques too (want more detail on that?).
 
TheMask said:
hey whats all the copper colored stuff on the prototype mobo? do they have that for the kids to crayon on that space ? :P
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it could be the color of the pcb. picture is too fuzzy to make out the details properly (i.e. whether thay have implemented an additional layer of copper at the top for shielding and stability purpose)
putting the VRM on the chip itself ??? is it a good idea from a user's point of view. ? since the vrm is one of the components which is under the most stress and most likely to fail. rendering the cpu (or whatever they now call it) useless.
exterpolating this further why not have, say about a gig of ddr2/3 , low latency rams on the die too.:D
and @ KK , "destroy some cryptography cracking techniques too" yes , could you provide more info about it.
 
See there are attacks called "power differential attacks"
It is based on the fact that there are slight variations in power consumed depending on the data being processed, the instructions executing etc. And this can actually be used to determine cryptographic keys!!! Don't know how practical it really is, but all good algprithms nowadays must be shown to be free from this attack.
Now if they put the VRM on the package, I assume this attack might be a bit more difficult. Not sure exactly tho, because I am not sure of how (and where) exactly this power is measured, but clearly with the VRM probably wasting some power in the regulation, it will not be easy to tell how much power is being consumed by the chip for execution.
 
I agree to the Point that integrating a Gfx controller into it is just foolish idea. though intel has been good at the GMA 900 for "first time" gamers with pixel shading & other stuff so atleast one can have "taste of Good Games" but they are just thinking too much off it.
 
VRM on chip. GFX on chip.
I wonder how hot it runs ;)

And yeah i am sure than integrated GFX is nothing but crappy 2d.
And i think intel delibrately left those areas on mobo in copper shape. to show whats now on the chip insted of mobo.
 
Chaos said:
@kev.... and you think AMD shall be sleeping all the while don't u?
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hehe no :D

Im just saying, Intel has A LOT more money to blow researching efficient cores....i think intel will go ahead of AMD at one point (soon) then AMDwill pull ahead...etc...
 
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Well Intel had shot themselves in the foot by not integrating a memory controller and losing billions to A64's...

Now they decided to go one step ahead. GFX on chip ! Yeah right, what do they think ATi and nVidia just died, or we cant afford to buy a "separate" GFX card :P
 
Well Intel had shot themselves in the foot by not integrating a memory controller and losing billions to A64's...
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Hmm they have just lost a marginal of their marketshare, and that could be due to business cycle fluctuations too. AMD has to adopted by OEM manufacturers too otherwise its just gonna be enthusiast proccy.
 
Yes that of course is very important as all OEMs still root for Intel.

But in the enthusiast market, AMD is way ahead. The only Intel enthusiast I see on TE is Kevin :P
 
anishcool said:
Yes that of course is very important as all OEMs still root for Intel.

But in the enthusiast market, AMD is way ahead. The only Intel enthusiast I see on TE is Kevin :P
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yep lol... :) pretty sad to

I asked angry_games on the DFI forums what the ratio is for selling AMD: intel

he said something like 30:1 :huh:

But intel doesnt care, there making tons of cash from.....everyone...only lacking abit from the consumer market
 
Cool. Intel should really be looking at creating some Gaming Chips though.
They really need a proccessor which can keep up with the fx-55 for gaming. Or atleast give the performance of the AMD 64 3800+ or something.
 
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