CPU/Mobo Intel E8500 Dual core Or Q6600 Quad?

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agm203

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Hii,

One of my friend is planning to upgrade his rig which would be basically for gaming,some movies,downloading,surfing etc.and he wont be overclocking at all so need suggestion which one would be better at stock E8500 or Q6600?motherboard he has already decided P5Q Pro with 4gb ram and 4850GPU.he has got 19" LCD Monitor.

thanks in advance

waiting for some quick replies.:)
 
Hi !

IMO, E8500 is the choice. 3.16 core speed...... put a 80mm FAN on northbridge of P5Q Pro and it can easily do 500 fsb ( but you won't even need it)...... with 9.5 multiplier and to achieve 4Ghz, you need 425 fsb. CHeck all games reviews, there's marginal difference between core2duos and quad core processors.....plus this is 45nm based processor so more power saving and will run cooler....
 
Thanks soo much guys for those quick replies:) Kudos

I guess i was dreaming when i got a Phenom X4 9650 3 months back for myself.:ashamed: Intel is way ahead of AMD :)

God knows why he wants a 10k P5Q Pro as he wont be overclocking i even asked him to get a cheaper one but he is hell bent on P45 chipset and in that case P5Q Pro is one of the best.Can someone suggest me feature rich P45 mobo which aint very expensive?

And will E8500 fine for upcoming games?as have read here that all upcoming games will be using all 4 cores and will eat Dual core?same is the case with GTA4 isnt it?

Thanks :)
 
^ GTA IV is literally the only game that's currently out where you might be disappointed with the performance of a fast dual-core versus a quad. Somebody mentioned UT3 as an argument to get a Quad.. That game runs very well on even an older Athlon 64 X2, as I know from experience, so don't worry about that game. Now, if you don't want to upgrade your CPU for 3+ years, then you should get the quad. But don't get a Q6600, get a Q9550 or better as you don't want to lose much clock speed from the dual-cores. By the time that more games require/recommend quad-cores, they will also be requiring/recommending something faster than a Q6600.
 
If he will OC then Q6600 or Q9550 IF HE WONT THEN fastes dual core. BTW he is loosing a lot of crunching performance if he wont use that mobo to OC.

agm203 said:
Hii,

One of my friend is planning to upgrade his rig which would be basically for gaming,some movies,downloading,surfing etc.and he wont be overclocking at all so need suggestion which one would be better at stock E8500 or Q6600?motherboard he has already decided P5Q Pro with 4gb ram and 4850GPU.he has got 19" LCD Monitor.

thanks in advance

waiting for some quick replies.:)
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I know u assumed he will OC na? :p

RoBoGhOsT said:
Q6600 will be better . :)
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Only if end user doesnot OC :p

zanderzone said:
Hi !

IMO, E8500 is the choice. 3.16 core speed...... put a 80mm FAN on northbridge of P5Q Pro and it can easily do 500 fsb ( but you won't even need it)...... with 9.5 multiplier and to achieve 4Ghz, you need 425 fsb. CHeck all games reviews, there's marginal difference between core2duos and quad core processors.....plus this is 45nm based processor so more power saving and will run cooler....
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Thats what i wonder. Even Giga G31 2.5k mobo will do :hap2:

RoBoGhOsT said:
ooh didnt read he wont OC , then E8500 will be better for sure .

why does he need a P5Q when he wont OC ?
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In some time quads hopefully will start pawning duals! :p

zanderzone said:
^ GTA IV is literally the only game that's currently out where you might be disappointed with the performance of a fast dual-core versus a quad. Somebody mentioned UT3 as an argument to get a Quad.. That game runs very well on even an older Athlon 64 X2, as I know from experience, so don't worry about that game. Now, if you don't want to upgrade your CPU for 3+ years, then you should get the quad. But don't get a Q6600, get a Q9550 or better as you don't want to lose much clock speed from the dual-cores. By the time that more games require/recommend quad-cores, they will also be requiring/recommending something faster than a Q6600.
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Thanks Zanderzone n ROCKFELLA,

Well he had Q9550 in mind earlier but now he is tight on budget so max he can shell out 10k for the proccy where as Q9550 is around 16-17k mark.

Nops he wont be keeping this rig for more then 12-15 months as he usual does upgrade within that.

@Rockfella i 2nd you,that is the problem he dont want g31/p31 etc else we would have got Q9550 i even suggested him gigabyte G31 but he want P45 chipset cant understand why he is hell bent on that :S

Will try to convince him for either G/P- 31 or 35 Chipset and then will get back.:)

thanks so much frnz
 
Yeah Zander just checked that Gigabyte P-31 mobo.

Well i have some how convinced him to go for a cheaper mobo as he wont be overclocking and now he is fine with it but still want nothing less then P35 :p So have suggested him Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G which is around 5-5.5k as far as i know this mobo is pretty good what you guys think?

And as now he is saving around 5k so should he get a Q9550 or E8500 will just do fine for his need?
 
hey i have a gigabyte P31 board for sale for Rs 2680 shipped on eBay.

i used it for 2 months and it can easily oc my quad to 3.25 without even bumping the voltage ie. @ 1.275 v.

its got some good features. has got solid state capacitors (more oc stable because of these) and has 3 years all india warranty.

tell me if ur interested

here's the link http://www.techenclave.com/market/fs-gigabyte-ga-ep-31-ds3l-125132.html

only one prob with mobo though - u cant use 4 sticks of dual channel memory on it. they'll run in single channel mode when 4 slots are occupied. thats a prob if u want 8 gb ram :p

and if u were to ask me, id say get a quad. even i was faced with a similar choice and i went for quad (im happy i made this choice, theres so much room to work with a quad, uve got so many cores to handle ur needs :p, not talking about games here as games are still not optimized for quads, but they will be in the future). ive oc'ed it to 3.6 ghz with this board and crysis runs like hell :D.
beyond 3.6 there is very little improvement in fps, so a quad is a winner here. and quad scores are better than dual core scores with crysis.
 
guys...1 query...how wud gta 4 perform on 8400 stock umm.. biostar tpi45 ...and hd4850 stock....umm and yeah 4 gigs of xms2....

so will it be playable at good resolution??..this is the setup tht ive decided to go for finally ..prolly this month end ill get it...

and for the thread starter..if he wants a p45 board..there are cheaper options like the msi neo p45 f..think arnd 5.7ks...thts decent enuf...stable...

or the biostar tp i45 with loads of features for the price of just rs 7.5 ks(correct if wrong)....well its got xfire support...nice cooling solution...and is the oc king of the core 2 duos...check wid other ppl on te..they say its very stable too...
 
Zander thats a very good P31/35 mobo with all solid caps! Awesome deal for OP :p
zanderzone said:
^ I think there's a G-31 on sale here on TE by Sindhu_21

For 2600 odd via eBay...good deal that is
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ankitmane said:
guys...1 query...how wud gta 4 perform on 8400 stock umm.. biostar tpi45 ...and hd4850 stock....umm and yeah 4 gigs of xms2....

so will it be playable at good resolution??..this is the setup tht ive decided to go for finally ..prolly this month end ill get it...
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what res u want to play this at?

i once owned an hd 4850 :p and gta IV on it didnt run so good. gta 4 is more gpu heavy than its cpu dependent (though u need a decent cpu to run it), and particularly gpu memory dependent .

here was my config before :D

q6600 @ 3.25 Ghz

ga ep31 ds3l

4 gb gskill 1066 mhz ram 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v :p

ati Sapphire 4850 512 mb ddr3

benq e2200 hd max res - 1920 x 1080

and i could get a maximum resolution of 1770x1000 in gta 4 settings, if i tried to go above that, it would say, not enough gpu memory.

then i couldnt get a good view distance as well and the render quality had to be set to medium (high wasnt available :( )

so i decided to get a new gpu :D

and this is my config now

q6600 @ 3.25 Ghz

ga ep31 ds3l

4 gb gskill 1066 mhz ram 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v :p

ati Sapphire HD 4870 1 gb ddr5

benq e2200 hd max res - 1920 x 1080

and now GTA 4 runs butter smooth on 1920x1080 and high render quality and a good viewing distance. im happy i made the switch :clap:
 
Guys please let me know if he should go for Q9550 and if its worth 16-17k for his need?or E8500 is fine and will suffice his need atleast for a year?thanks
 
^ ya buy that P31 mobo , best for ur friend as he wont OC . he can use the remaining money and get a 4870 1GB instead of 4850 .

E8500 will be fine , but instead of 4850 , get a 4870 1GB with the remaining money .
 
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