Forum Feedback Mephistopheles has some problem i dont know why?

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Mephistopheles block thread or delete a post without a major reason.I received infractions from him just because of i show interest in a product and reason he explain behind this is "Off topic" and another one also due to minor reason.Earlier i thought it was due to rule violation So i let it go.

But yesterday he block the entire thread just after i make post "whether its sold or not" and the reason is "pics were more than two months old"(i'm ok with it, but why just after i post).And this thread was not active,even seller didn't bump it since long time.How can seller update pics who forget to bump a thread.First he has to issue a warning, if seller do not update pics after that thread has to be blocked.

Also there are few threads which are active and have more than two months pics.

i can't understand why is he doing so?
 
He is just following the rule that the sale threads should not be allowed to be active if the product pic is more than 2 months old. This cutoff is for the benefit of the buyers. Right now there is no automated feature to close a thread which is more than 2 months old.

You can anyway PM the seller if you want to buy the product urgently and cannot wait for him to update the pics.
 
i am not against the rules but why action taken place when i post.

Also there are few threads which are active and have more than two months pics.

You can anyway PM the seller if you want to buy the product urgently and cannot wait for him to update the pics.
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i already did that.
 
Also there are few threads which are active and have more than two months pics.
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Kindly use the 'Report Post' button to report such threads. Appropriate action will be taken by one of the market moderators.
 
vip said:
i am not against the rules but why action taken place when i post.
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When someone posts in a thread, it bumps it to the top, hence bringing it to the attention of members and mods. In this situation a mod realized the thread was more than two months old and rectified it. I doubt Meph did this as a personal act against you.
 
@Grease Monk

i got your point but i am not only the who reply to market threads.

Reason for this thread is to clarify things.

Rules are equal to every member so other threads should be blocked.
 
Who is implying/saying that other threads shouldn't be blocked?

Like I said, if you come across any thread/post violating a rule kindly report it so that action is taken.
 
+1 to what GreaseMonk said. I feel that you are combining totally unrelated events.

if you are not breaking any rules and feel that any mod is misusing his powers then you can PM any of the Global Mods with sufficient proof and ask for their feedback. If you have any proof you can post it here too.

The market section has a lot of rules and restrictions which have been added over a period of time due to feedback from members and many discussions. The rules might seem harsh and the mods enforcing the rules may seem too strict, but they are just doing their duty.

If/when you are satisfied with the answers here please request the mods to close this thread.
 
I don't understand why you are so adamant in believing that it was only after seeing your post that Meph closed the other thread. Mods are not always online. When I am online I usually check only the first couple of pages in the market section; just the first page in many other sections. If you happen to reply in a market thread and bump it up, and I notice that that thread has very old pics and hence close it, will you assume that I am vindictive against you?

Mods cannot check each and every thread one by one. It is next to impossible to dedicate that much of time; although most of us try to spend as much time on TE as possible. For threads/posts that are against the rules and still escape the mods' eyes, we always rely on members to do their part by uing "report button" promptly. Report posts/threads like the one you have mentioned; action will be taken when the relevant section mod or a GMod notices the report.
 
Mephistopheles has issues ... yes ... has anyone else faced an issue with him .... yes ... I have.

There are things such as gentle reminders and warnings.... instead of firing infractions at people. By straight infractions you are discouraging people from posting, which is a problem.

With great power comes great responsibility ... even a comic character knows it, so do mods at various other forums.

All he needs to do is tone himself down, if he cant do that... he shouldn't be a mod.
 
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There are things such as gentle reminders and warnings.... instead of firing infractions at people. By straight infractions you are discouraging people from posting, which is a problem.
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Ok let me handle this in two parts:

1. I assume you are talking about market section infractions since he is a mod there. In market section the mods have been told to hand infractions at will if the posts do not comply to the rules. There will be no warnings or gentle reminders. Nothing much he can do about it.

2. As far as discouraging people from posting is concerned. The whole purpose of infraction is to discourage people from posting whatever they have posted (clearly it violated some rule). So its a win not a problem.

PS: If you have encountered a scenario where he infracted wrongly then please do bring it to our notice.
 
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There are things such as gentle reminders and warnings.... instead of firing infractions at people. By straight infractions you are discouraging people from posting, which is a problem.
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I think the market section is way past 'gentle reminders' and 'warnings'. considering a lot of people register solely to post in that section and few bother about getting acquainted with the rules, the mods simply have no choice but handle market section in this manner. Even God himself would not be able to moderate that section if he starts giving out 'gentle reminders' and 'last warnings' to people violating rules. Thread deletion without notification and infractions at will is perfectly fine. People have but to read the rules to know what they did wrong and not repeat the mistake.
 
logistopath said:
I don't understand why you are so adamant in believing that it was only after seeing your post that Meph closed the other thread. Mods are not always online. When I am online I usually check only the first couple of pages in the market section; just the first page in many other sections. If you happen to reply in a market thread and bump it up, and I notice that that thread has very old pics and hence close it, will you assume that I am vindictive against you?

Mods cannot check each and every thread one by one. It is next to impossible to dedicate that much of time; although most of us try to spend as much time on TE as possible. For threads/posts that are against the rules and still escape the mods' eyes, we always rely on members to do their part by uing "report button" promptly. Report posts/threads like the one you have mentioned; action will be taken when the relevant section mod or a GMod notices the report.
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where i did say to check each and every thread.

And the thread i am talking is second or third thread and it bumped today morning and that time mod was online.so your clarification doesn't work here.

as earlier said "i am not against the rules" and rules should be applied equally to all members.
 
Let me tell you my experience with Mephistopheles. I posted my FS thread in wrong section(just bcoz of 1 different item i have in my FS thread so I posted in General market) and he locked away the thread without any notice. So I simply Pmed him and move my thread to appropriate section and Reopen it. which he did nicely. :) and gave me gentle reminder to read the rules again. :bleh:
So its not like that. he has to be little hard on new members who solely here for Market Section.
 
Fine ... if thats the way you guys feel then thats the way it is ... but thats what keeps me from posting in the market section then thats the way it is. I do understand the fact that a lot of people use the forum for nothing else but selling stuff but that doesnt mean they deserve to be treated anything less than a person with a soul and self respect.

Even the police is taught restraint and people skills these days... if thats so difficult to understand or acknowledge then I cant do anything but feel sorry for the poor souls who post in the market and a bit more sorry for the mod because he'll have a hard time growing up as a MOD.
 
vip said:
where i did say to check each and every thread.

And the thread i am talking is second or third thread and it bumped today morning and that time mod was online.so your clarification doesn't work here.

as earlier said "i am not against the rules" and rules should be applied equally to all members.
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See M8, its not personal. And even if the thread is bumped up, it is not always seen by the mod immediately. Why didnt you report that thread. I dont see any report from you about that thread in staff section. Sometimes MODs see some threads, sometimes they will miss. This is why there is report button for the users. You are free to report such threads and contribute to community little bit. Arguing about it is pointless.

This is not a professional forum where staff is getting paid to do anything. We all do whatever we can in our spare time. All of them have jobs, college studies, higher studies to attend to so there are bound to be few threads that slip through the crack. Dont take it personally.

Currently the market section has grown to the proportion where it is very hard to moderate. You have no choice but to either let it run wild, or be strict in implementing rules there. On TE there have been multiple warnings and announcements that are posted in that section and then a iron fist approach is taken when it comes to threads that does not follow the rules. And it is done for a reason. There is no good way to deal with threads in that section. They do not contribute anything to the forum, but merely gives a platform to normal users to sell off their old stuff or to buy some good hardware at decent price. Thats its only purpose. And even though 100% bullet proof secure market is not possible, the rules are there to make things easier and more fair to all parties involved and to add that little layer of security that is needed for a community market.

Dont be sentimental when it comes to that section. Here on TE that section is lot bigger than many other Indian forums. So it needs to be handled differently. Participate in other sections and see how things are there.
 
See in my first post i accept first two infractions but i didn't like the way mod close thread yesterday.That action interrupt the communication in-between.First he has to wait whether seller is still open to deal or its closed,At least let me know the status.if there is +ve reply and seller not agreed to update pics then its the case to block thread.
 
vip said:
See in my first post i accept first two infractions but i didn't like the way mod close thread yesterday.That action interrupt the communication in-between.First he has to wait whether seller is still open to deal or its closed,At least let me know the status.if there is +ve reply and seller not agreed to update pics then its the case to block thread.
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This is exactly what mods cant go around doing in market section. How are they suppose to keep track of individual thread and keep checking it over time.

Use PM facility if you feel like communicating with seller. Its available for everyone. Any thread noticed by the modetators that breaks the market rule will be closed on the spot. The announcement of the same is right at the top in market section.
 
i understand that "vip" ur pissed at the mod for a lot of things happening to u lately,n with so many things happening in such a short time u must think the mod is targeting u or something...but knw this bro it must just be a coincidence!

not just u but many people have received infractions,n ya the mods should probably first issue a warning or something before hand,but u also have to understand that there are thousands of members here in te n a lot more posts,its hard for the mods to check evrything,issue warning everyday to so many peoples!

maybe u shud just take it as a warning not to repeat the same mistake again not like the infractions are gonna ruin ur image or anything...

n many threads get deleted,i've had 2 of my threads being deleted n i didnt even knw what i did wrong...but the mod must have seen something that i missed to do which is ok,to keep the integrity of the forum together

just let it go,chill no one hates u...it's just that mods are very busy n their job is harder than it looks

so lets just give them respect for what they do,since its only bcoz of them that this forum is where it is today,going so strong!

remember a mod can't personally come n help everyone,they do as much as they can n whatever shud be done for the well being of the forum as a whole

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n if u have any problem just pm the mod,i'm sure they'll reply n also have a justifiable reason for what they did!
 
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