(Politics) Social media giant Facebook and BJP/Modi nexus


iPwnz

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This news went viral since it's release. And I'm sharing it for those who haven't seen it.


Original source: WSJ [paid subscription] https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebo...tics-muslim-hindu-modi-zuckerberg-11597423346
(Would be great if anyone with a paid subscription post screenshots of the article here if you don't mind).

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Now, I don't know how many of the users here are also active on Facebook but I want to share my personal experience on related matters from back when I was very active on the platform. As you all know Facebook has a "report" feature but this feature is almost useless. Meaning fb doesn't take actions on many of them specifically with regard to hate speeches in India. As you might have already known, Facebook India is filled with hate speeches mainly against Muslims (fyi I'm not a Muslim) and most of these communal hate/propaganda originate from pro-Modi/BJP/Hindutva pages with hundreds and thousands of likes and followers. Anyway, I used to report these posts and comments but none of them were ever removed. Not a single one. Some hours/days after I reported them I would get an alert which says something like "Thank you for your report. The post doesn't violate fb's policies." I would go "WTF?? How the hell do they not violate fb policies??" I always thought it was strange and often wondered if they were aligned with the BJP govt here. Of course I didn't have any proof and I also don't work for FB. But the WSJ did it's research and has finally given us something.
Not only against communal hate, Facebook also doesn't take action against threats including rape threats to women. I'm sure that the users who reported these posts like I did will also confirm this.
I first came to know about the FB-Modi/BJP link via Saket Gokhale's tweet here
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Last but not the least, listen to Sasha Baron Cohen speak about Facebook.
 

sj88

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Despite this being in public domain now, I think it will hardly matter to people. Opposition will scream and demanding answers, for few days and then they will stop too. Government as usual won't respond and would hope some other issue would come up and grabs the people's attention.
 

nimod

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The shameless know they need not worry a bit till the brainless voters are voting in this country.
BJP teaches their IT cell slaves that they have mastered mass mind-control methods.
I believe they are correct.

During migrant crisis, this society proved Indians have lost conscience and consciousness.

Indians can be controlled with 3 tools: TV, Facebook & WhatsApp.

And these Indians with compromised brains believe they will soon be vishwa-guru.

wow!
 

iPwnz

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True that Nimod. Our only possible option (like it has always been) is election but I hear there's also that "thing" about the EVM's. I've never been a fan of EVM from the start. Ballot papers best. Sure it's not perfect but still...
Worst case scenario this rapid growth of population will actually play in their favour. From one brainwashed person to the next in the family and so on.
 
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Julian

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More madness:



I have no idea wtf is even going on anymore...
 

Greyfalcon

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True that Nimod. Our only possible option (like it has always been) is election but I hear there's also that "thing" about the EVM's. I've never been a fan of EVM from the start. Ballot papers best. Sure it's not perfect but still...
Worst case scenario this rapid growth of population will actually play in their favour. From one brainwashed person to the next in the family and so on.
Would have to disagree with the ballot paper thing. In a country where Vikas Dubey and gundas like him are given tickets by every single party, ballot papers can never be the best. They might work well in first world countries where every small politician doesnt have a posse following them everywhere trying to earn their goodwill by licking their feet or kicking someone in the teeth. But here, exactly THAT happens.
 

Tejas01

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Anyone following Belarus?
Yup... Apparently the so called elected leader is asking Russia how to proceed with this turmoil. It's an open shut case, that he had won through rigging the polls.

Coming back to FB, I am not surprised. Both twitter and FB work on principles that any content which gets maximum views and coverage, in tune with the incumbent government view, should be promoted. They are least interested if people live or die while serving as a platform for this fake news/communal etc.
 

Greyfalcon

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More madness:



I have no idea wtf is even going on anymore...
I might sound like a fool here repeating a sentence you might have heard thousands of times before, but I'll still say it coz that's what I believe. THEY'RE ALL THE SAME MAANNNNN!!! Every party just wants to make the voter dance to their tune and just repeats the things their voter base wants to hear.
Both the opposition and the ruling party benefited a LOT from that incident as it divided a lot of people. Which in turn assured definite votes for each parties. No more on-the-fence-not-sure-who-im-gonna-vote people remaining there.
 

nimod

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I might sound like a fool here repeating a sentence you might have heard thousands of times before, but I'll still say it coz that's what I believe. THEY'RE ALL THE SAME MAANNNNN!!! Every party just wants to make the voter dance to their tune and just repeats the things their voter base wants to hear.
Both the opposition and the ruling party benefited a LOT from that incident as it divided a lot of people. Which in turn assured definite votes for each parties. No more on-the-fence-not-sure-who-im-gonna-vote people remaining there.

Don't get fooled by advertisers of bjp.

None of these 50-some people were part of any protest.

I believe these hired Muslims (supposed to be Muslims) are put on stage to confuse the Indians with doubts about these protest.
Just like RSS Muslim-wing members are staged in MSM as Muslim Representatives.

This could also be a stunt to show international community that Indian Muslims are supporting caa/bjp.

BJP is seriously preparing to welcome Kamala Harris.
 
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msankadi

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Thanks for sharing the news

However I find it naive to believe that only one party in history has done this... Fb is just media... Media being influenced or controlled by government has been one of the most common allegations against any ruling party

This is not to say that we should be okay with that. Definitely raise voices and push for change.

However behaving as if bjp is wicked or the most evil party ever to try and control the media is incredibly naive. In my opinion all parties and governments try to do that


I have not read the article but based on what you have written there is a possibility that fb just doesn't respond to any reports. Forget anti Muslim etc. If they don't act on any reports and are just incompetent or disinclined to act in political matters, you would wrongly conclude that they are not acting on only Muslim reports. Is there evidence that for example they act 50% more on anti hindu reports vs anti Muslim reports? That will be evidence of government influence.
 
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Julian

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While it may be true in fact, i find it wrong to condone their actions by saying 'every political party is bad' or 'everyone does it'. Let's not dilute the gravity of the situation by trivialising and making it common behaviour.
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However behaving as if bjp is wicked or the most evil party ever to try and control the media is incredibly naive. In my opinion all parties and governments try to do that

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This much is true beyond doubt. Facts are evident for anyone willing to accept them.
 

msankadi

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While it may be true in fact, i find it wrong to condone their actions by saying 'every political party is bad' or 'everyone does it'. Let's not dilute the gravity of the situation by trivialising and making it common behaviour.
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This much is true beyond doubt. Facts are evident for anyone willing to accept them.

Looks like you just have a political agenda or bias.

When one tries to make sweeping judgments and label them as "facts" it is just a bias instead of actually trying to analyze the facts and situation
 

nimod

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Looks like you just have a political agenda or bias.

When one tries to make sweeping judgments and label them as "facts" it is just a bias instead of actually trying to analyze the facts and situation

@Julian 's agenda will not affect a single person's life.
But BJP's agenda will surely affect lives of 600-Crore** voter's of modiji.
Also the lives of the remaining 63%*** population is at stake who didn't vote for modiji.

**Source: Modiji
***Source: wikipedia
 

Julian

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Looks like you just have a political agenda or bias.

When one tries to make sweeping judgments and label them as "facts" it is just a bias instead of actually trying to analyze the facts and situation

I have a strong bias against murderous lying crooks no matter what party they belong to.

I am not labeling anything, documented history is called fact is it not?
 

Julian

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BJP getting worried an actual investigation will prove collusion:

 

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