Graphic Cards Sapphire 5670 on a generic 500w VIP PSU

chiragsthakur

chiragsthakur

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Hi guys,

I know that running 5670 on generic PSU is not our choice, but my friend has Rs.4900 to spend on graphics card and PSU.. I suggested him to get a 512mb 5670 and generic vip 500w psu., which according to me will be enough to power up but may not be safe. I cannot suggest him any other combination as he is limited on his budget. Cannot even spend 500 bucks more... not even 100... :S

Is my decision right regarding suggesting him this combo??

His system specs : athlon x2 240, 2gb corsair xms2 ddr2 800mhz, 320gb hdd, asus mobo, dvd writer and just 2 case fans.

Need your opinion and suggestions if any on this subject. Also let me know the prices of 5670 512mb ddr5 in mumbai. Prime and itwares quoted 4300/-
 
the vip 500w is similar to the FSP bluestorm 500. its rated for 285w on the 12v railing. the 5670's peak power is 182w. that leaves you with 100w for hdd drives and others even on peak load. so its not going to be a problem.
price seems ok. but some prefer to stay away from prime due to bad aftersales.
 
ask your friend,whats more important== safety of the whole PC or just having fun playing and installing a time bomb ticking on all his components?
 
Ameet148 said:
ask your friend,whats more important== safety of the whole PC or just having fun playing and installing a time bomb ticking on all his components?
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I have already asked him the same question before suggesting him this combo, but he not at all interested in spending few bucks more... :(

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mrcool63 said:
the vip 500w is similar to the FSP bluestorm 500. its rated for 285w on the 12v railing. the 5670's peak power is 182w. that leaves you with 100w for hdd drives and others even on peak load. so its not going to be a problem.
price seems ok. but some prefer to stay away from prime due to bad aftersales.
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Friend, Its not VIP GOLD smps, its the normal VIP 500w smps which is sold at 600 only.
 
mrcool63 said:
the vip 500w is similar to the FSP bluestorm 500. its rated for 285w on the 12v railing. the 5670's peak power is 182w. that leaves you with 100w for hdd drives and others even on peak load. so its not going to be a problem.

price seems ok. but some prefer to stay away from prime due to bad aftersales.
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the FSP is certified for 80%+ efficiency. the VIPs on paper are certified for about 70% efficiency. It would be better if he would opt for gigabyte superb 460W atleast or tell him to be ready for BSOD's while gaming.
 
mrcool63 said:
the vip 500w is similar to the FSP bluestorm 500. its rated for 285w on the 12v railing. the 5670's peak power is 182w. that leaves you with 100w for hdd drives and others even on peak load. so its not going to be a problem.
price seems ok. but some prefer to stay away from prime due to bad aftersales.
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Incorrect, HD5670 peak consumption is only 61W.

@ Chirag - No, i'd not risk HD5670 on that generic PSU. It may handle the card but isn't recommended for the long run.
 
muzux2 said:
Incorrect, HD5670 peak consumption is only 61W.

@ Chirag - No, i'd not risk HD5670 on that generic PSU. It may handle the card but isn't recommended for the long run.
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yeah, even my thinking is the same, that it will be enough to power it up but will definitely be a problem in long run
 
182 was the absolute load for the first reference design long ago. im just giving him the worst case scenario. even with that the vip may manage. The psu is not recommended though.
and op 285w on the 12v for a 500w rated psu is damn bad. if it was corsair they would have rated it 360w. although i doubt the psu would blow with 5670. i think its the same fsp model. OP u can ask the shop to show u the psu and check the specs.
also VIP is much better than either zebronics or the whole local assortment out there.
 
chiragsthakur said:
will there be a notable difference in 5670 1gb and 512mb??
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only notable difference will be available when playing GTA4 which needs more vram

else the 128 bit bus wont be utilising the vram to its fullest.
 
DDR5 version of the HD5670 offers little to no performance gain over GDDR3 version. Whatever difference that can be seen will probably be more apparent on higher resolutions, but the HD5670 is not exactly meant to be a card for said resolutions.It depends upon what kind of games you play too.
 
anyway, only Rs 100/- difference wont affect OP tight budget and neither the difference can buy him a good psu. i suggest u go for DDR5 memory even if it doesn't make considerable difference, but you will at least feel better. Can't say abt VIP PSU, but many people have been using 9800GT Green edition with a el-cheapo PSU ( like iBall, Zebronics, Intex) for years and hasn't given them trouble.. also, 5670 power consumption is low than 9800GT green edition. So VIP will easily handle your rig.

But not recommended for long run, the GPU can get fried after 10 days or 10 months depend entirely on your system luck. I hope Good luck.
 
Ameet148 said:
DDR5 version of the HD5670 offers little to no performance gain over GDDR3 version. Whatever difference that can be seen will probably be more apparent on higher resolutions, but the HD5670 is not exactly meant to be a card for said resolutions.It depends upon what kind of games you play too.
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chiragsthakur said:
i am getting 5670 512mb ddr5 at 4.3K ... is the deal ok??
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I am also looking to buy 5670 but I got a quote of Rs.4500 for ddr3 and Rs.5200 for ddr5 from my local dealer :huh:.I thought ddr5 is the only way to go (around 20 percent performance difference) but you people are talking there is no much difference between these two.@ameet what do you mean by higher resolution 1080p or more.

I have 1600x900 resolution monitor,intel dual core processor (2.5ghz),2gb ddr2 ram,single hard disk,disconnected dvd drive ( will connect whenever I need to fresh install os or some special situation),not willing to overclock neither processor nor gpu and my ups conditioning the power to certain extent still do I need high efficient psu (I have generic zebronics 450w).
 
Ameet148 said:
Value Buyer have alook at this YouTube - ‪Crysis 2 Gameplay on radeon hd 5670 2gb ddr3‬‏
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Thank you for reply since I am not aggressive gamer while considering FPS kind of game since I have this problem with FPS games I could not play continuously.To perform well in these games we have to spend several hours continuously you know.But I played several hours in AOE,NFS most wanted kind of games and also I am using onboard graphics card I don't know much technical details about resolution,fps,AA ...Now only I am reading about these detail hear and there.So It would be better if you give direct answer.

By watching that video I came to know following things he is playing 1440x900,in the beginning of the game play player mentioned he could play in 37-45fps and title of the post shows he is playing Crysis 2 on radeon hd 5670 2gb ddr3 but there is no information about his other hardware,over clocking ...I am wondering whether 2gb version for this card available.
 
As said earlier this card has low bit bus which cannot properly utilise the 1gb ram.
So if you need a card which has 2gb or more ram you are better of with a 68xx or 69xx series card. (xx for 50,70)
Those have 256 bit rambus which optimises the vram to the fullest .
 
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