Sapphire HD 4870 Review

First of all thanks for all the encouraging response for the PALIT HD 4850 review. Finally after some waiting, the elder hottie sis HD 4870 is also available in the Indian market.

So lets gets started with my new crispy, hottie, chirpy SAPPHIRE HD 4870 with 512MB superfast DDR5 memory.

The card was sourced from Mr Dinesh of Ankit Infotech, SP Road,Bangalore. Thanks a lot for his kind gesture to let us review the card.

The expected street is price is around 19000+taxes (as applicable) in Bangalore. The card is distributed by Aditya Infotech.

Enough facts, lets have a look at the box and the bundle 

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The front box facial gives hot Ruby a makeover with the “TombRaider-Lara Croft†looks. A lot of times Sapphire warranty was questioned here in the forums. The box comes with a sticker which states “3 Years Warranty†from Aditya. I guess there is a 2nd distri in India known as “Pink Consulting†who actually gives only 2 years warranty. So guys please look out for the 3 yrs sticker

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The back side as usual lays out the various product features and the distributor sticker stating MRP and all :P

Lets have a look at the bundle now

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Package Content

1x DVI to HDMI Adapter (with 7.1 Lossless support)
1x DVI to VGA Adapter
1x DIN to S-Video Adapter
1x DIN to component Adapter
2x PCIe 6pin to molex Adapters
1x Crossfire Bridge
1x Quick Instruction Guide
1x Driver CD (Catalyst 8.6 v12-093)
1x Fueled by Sapphire Sticker

Only thing extra was the Futuremark 3D Mark 06 Professional Edition which was bundled. Quite useless to me at least. May be 3D Mark Vantage would have been a more apt bundle.

[BREAK=Page 2---Looks and Build Quality]

Lets have a look at our Ruby in Lara Croft avatar

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All the cards for now are ATI/AMD reference models with only different paint/sticker jobs applied by the AIB partners.

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Coming to the side of the card, we can notice that the stock cooler in the HD 4870 is quite a beefy one and we can see the two copper heatpipes clearly through the red translucent shroud. The fan is quite a big one too similar to the one used in HD 3870 and moves heat to the out of the case thanks to the dual slot cooler. This is much better compared to the el cheapo stock cooler which comes fitted with the HD 4850. We will have a look at the performance of the cooler at a later stage in the review.

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Now flipping to the other side, we can see the AMD logo on the PCB ! All hail AMD for making such a turnaround in the GPU market and catching Nvidia at least once with their pants down :rofl:

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Coming to the front edge of the board which houses the fan , which is controlled by a 4 pin PWM connector. The fan is at very silent setting at default condition though and this leads to quite high idle temps as we will see later in the review.

This part also houses the power circuitry , which is controlled by a Vitec 4-phase IC and is much more advanced than the one used on HD 4850. Sorry for not being able to take out the stock cooler and showing some naked hot pron, but as you all might understand this card was just for review purposes !

[BREAK=Page 3---Ruby’s Bare Back!]

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Well here we find her bare back at least ! Sorry again for not being able to show the full frontal show. At least something is better than nothing :P

As we can see the PCB is quite complex than the HD 4850 mainly the power regulation part as it uses more phases (4-phase) than the HD 4850. The GDDR5 also requires better voltage regulation as it can withstand less ripple in the line. This is served well by the 2-phase memory circuit. All reference HD 4870 cards for now uses Quimonda GDDR5 chips rated at 900 Mhz QDR (effective 3600Mhz).

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On top is another close look at the power regulator section of the card

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Above is the slot side of the card , and we can see the dual slot cooler vents through which the hot fluids :P of the ruby flow out :P

Enough about the card I guess ! I am flaunting to much I guess , but it’s the Ruby…..I cant control :rofl:

[BREAK=Page 4---The Contestants & Test-Setup]

I will be using the nos from the Palit HD 4850 review that was posted last week. Also in the ring will be the 8800GT & the 8800 Ultra nos.

To add some spices to the review, I wanted to check if the younger sister can give her elder sister a serious run for her hotness or not ! The Palit HD 4850 has been overclocked to an insane 800 Mhz on the core & 1150 Mhz on the memory and will be pitted against the stock clocked HD 4870. Afterall you can choose only one of the sisters and do not get to keep both of them as both of them will just be “TOO HOT to HANDLE†for someone like me at least ! May be we will put together another showdown with both of them in action together

Anyway so here are the final contestants :

MSI 8800GT (10% factory oced core)
eVGA 8800 Ultra Stock
Palit HD 4850 Stock
Sapphire HD 4870 Stock
Palit HD 4850 OC (800/1100) with Accelero S1 rev 2 Cooler

Here is the test system

Q6600 on IP35-E
2 X 1GB AxeRam
CM Realpower 550W
Windows XP 32-bit*
Catalyst 8.6 Hotfix for HD 4850
Nvidia Forceware 177.39 for 8800GT/8800Ultra

**For Crysis we used the modified "Very High" Cvars downloaded from guru3d which is comparable to "Very High" DX 10 setting in Vista.

Of the games/benchmarks we tested, World in Conflict & 3D mark 06 are the only ones which are CPU limited. Hence they were tested at 3.6Ghz to get rid of any CPU bottlenecking.
COD 4 Modern Warfare timedemo nos. for the HD 4000 series only as the benchies was not done for the 8800GT/Ultra in the earlier review.
[BREAK=Page 5---“Who’s Hotter?†(Fear Perseus Mandate)]

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This game was tested at two resolutions (1280X1024 & 1680X1050). All the settings were bumped up to max in game, along with 4xAA and 16xAF.The ingame benchamarking too was used to come to the results.

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As its visible , the HD 4850 is highly competing with the bigger hotie at both the resolutions. Of course the 4850 is highly oced and that lends it the firepower, but at least the younger is carrying herself well even with slower DDR3 memory. It just around 5% or so slower and ya that’s quite a hell good no of frames. Both of them leave even the 8800 Ultra far behind, with the 8800GT lagging as much as by 50% :O

So, I guess the younger cutie did actually pep things up. Lets look whats in store next

[BREAK=Page 6---“Who’s Hotter?†(Race Driver Grid)]

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The game was tested only at the resolution 1680X1050. All the settings were bumped up to the max with AA also at 4x. The game doesn’t have an inbuilt benchmark, so the nos in this game was done using fraps by just starting the race and the car being kept in static conditions for 60 sec.

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Again we can see similar results as that of FEAR and the HD 4850 OCed is tantalizingly near the HD 4870 running at stock clocks. The gap is just around 4-5% or so.Again both the hotties topple the 8800Ultra and 8800GT by around 20% and 40% respectively. The HD 4850 when overclocked is looking a lot VFM and a hot choice. Of course the HD 4870 can also be oced and we can get more higher nos but the thing is that we are getting really comfortable above minimum 60 fps which is commendable.

As for the image quality , that is slightly better in the HD 4000 series than the G92. G80 almost looks similar and is indistinguishable.

[BREAK=Page 7---“Who’s Hotter?†(Crysis)]

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So here in the big momma which bring all graphics powerhouses to their knees !
Will the Ruby fall apart as well?

**For Crysis we used the modified "Ultra quality 1.3.1" Cvars downloaded from guru3d which is comparable to "Very High" DX 10 setting in Vista. The resolution is 1680X1050 with 4x AA.

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Ok, we have some OC results of the HD 4870 here as well. The highly oced Palit HD 4850 is still around 7% slower than the stock HD 4870 and around 10% slower in case the elder sis is oced as well. When compared to a 8800GT , HD 4850 is again 50% faster and the HD 4870 is 60% faster. Even the erstwhile king 8800Ultra is owned by the HD 4870 OC by almost 40%.

To add to it, the image quality is really good on the HD 4000 series , better than both the Nvidia contestants w/o any doubt and visible to the naked eye.

[BREAK=Page 8---“Who’s Hotter?†(World in Conflict & COD4)]

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This game as an ingame benchmark known as “Seaside†which was used. This game is highly CPU limited so gamers intending to play it should preferably have the CPU at least above 3Ghz because of the insane Physics in the game.

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The HD 4870 is around 8-10% faster than the OCed HD 4850.The 8800 Ultra with its raw bandwidth rages quite a good battle here, whereas the 8800GT just cant keep up with anyone being arnd 20-25% slower than the HD 4870.

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I finally got hold of a good timedemo which I could use to benchmark both the Rubies!
The settings were maxed out as usual at 1680X1050 with 4xAA , 16xAF. Its looks just awesome with all the eye candy turned on! The engine is very optimized and renders amazing visuals at a very good frame rate. Personally this is one game which I rate better than Crysis, on both gameplay and GFX.

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Only the nos for the HD 4000 series are available as the timedemo was not available while benching the Nvidia cards last week. The results shows them all of them quite near to each other and to be honest it was quite above the optimum fps level to crib anything.
[BREAK=Page 9---“Who’s Hotter?†(3D Mark 06)]

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Finally some 3D mark 06 nos. Its quite useless if you ask me though :P as it has become more of CPU limited! Will try and put some vantage nos soon as my Vista Installation was corrupt at the time of doing the review :P

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Nothing much to write about the nos. As like the games reflect, HD 4850 OC gets quite close to the HD 4870 Stock. When oced the HD 4870 is a different beast all together.
[BREAK=Page 10---Temperatures & FanFix]

As with the Palit HD 4850, for the Sapphire HD 4870 the temps are abysmally high if the fan fix is not applied in the profile. Its as high as 70-72 in idle, and 85-95 degrees on load. Once the fan profile is adjusted to around 40%-45% , the temps were around 48-50 idle and 65-70 at load. And ya at 45% the stock fan was quite silent :)

The dual slot cooler of the 4870 resulted in at least 5-10 degrees lesser load temp with the fan profile fixed at 45% for both.

Unlock the "key" icon and Enable Overdrive first in CCC(Catalyst Control Center)Then go to ATI CCC Profile manager and create a profile and save it.The ATI CC profiles are located here in Windows XP

C:\Documents and Settings\(Username)\Local Settings\Application Data\ATI\ACE

The part in bold is what was changed

</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedProtocol_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedProtocolProperty" value="Percent" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedAlgorithm_0">
<Property name="FanSpeedAlgorithm" value="Manual" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedRPMTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="0" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="FanSpeedPercentTarget_0">
<Property name="Want" value="45" />
</Feature>

After that activate the profile in CCC and you will get the manual fan speed activated. Anything above 50-55% sounds like a hair dryer and above 80% its like a jet getting ready to take off :rofl:

[BREAK=Page 11---Overclocking]

I tried overclocking through the CCC only and yielded the 690 Mhz on the core quite easily . In fact the max you can go with CCC is 690Mhz only. The memory also clocked up quite easily to around 1050 Mhz. This is not what is the limit of the card though as I just tested the card for a limited time to come to the above frequencies.

I will update with some more OC nos if I am able to squeeze some time out !

Anyway here are the nos with the OCed HD 4870

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Ahhhh…..finally I am nearing the end of the review. Lets find out “Who’s HOTTER?â€
[BREAK=Page 12---Verdict & Conclusion]

This review was quite a revelation to me. One regarding the headroom these HD 4000 series cards have got in terms of the core clock speeds they can achieve. Of course it was achieved with some modding on the HD 4850 as well as a superb cooling setup with the Accelero S1 Rev.2, still total damage for the HD 4850 setup was just 13k. The HD 4870 on the other hand even at stock clocks is amazingly fast and doesn’t gasp much to withhold its pole position.

So Who is the HOT one ?

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So of course the verdict is “ The Elder Ruby is the Champ-Sapphire HD 4870†in the Performance segment for sure.

But it costs 19k +taxes , compared to 13k on the HD 4850 (along with the Accelero Cooler) and the performance difference is at best 8-10% with the average rather being at 5% at the 22†resolution of 1680X1050 or lower.

So the younger cutie "Palit HD 4850" deservedly get the VFM award w/o any question.

The 8800GT doesn’t make any serious sense even at 9k as compared to HD 4850 stock clocks also, when all the eye candy is turned on, it might be slower by as much as 25-30%. More importantly , you get a newer more advanced architecture with the HD 4000 series , with extremely tuned texture fetch units , ROPs etc which will help more immensely in the games coming in future. About 8800 Ultra we don’t need to conclude anything as its already in its EOL :P

So finally to sump up for the Sapphire HD 4870 which was our subject of review

Pros:

1. Amazing Performace
2. UVD 2 Video Acceleration (VC1, H264, MPEG2)
3. AVIVO Converter (Accelerated Video Encoding)
4. 1.2 TeraFlops under the hood
5. Tessellation unit under hood for future proof gaming if ever developers take it up
6. HDMI 7.1 Audio Routing
7. Much Beefier stock cooling solution than the HD 4850
Cons:

1. UVD/Powerplay broken in current driver(8.6 Hotfix).
2. Price/Performance ratio is not good due to improper pricing. At 17-18k it will be at the sweet spot and deserving a must buy.
3. Too silent fan profile...needed to be more aggressive to keep the temps down to optimum levels.

All in all the Sapphire HD 4870 512MB DDR5 gets a rating of 4 out of 5 from us.

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Thanks again to Mr. Dinesh of , SP Road, Bangalore who was kind enough to provide the card to us for review.

Phew !…finally I am able to close this :hap2:
Keep your comments, as well as the bricks/bats flowing :P

Ciao,

Supra
Team TechEnclave

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wooooooooo nice review good hard work

post more photos where u attach u system also psu

so u are return the card back u owner :P
 
Hahaha nice language used :P And that was fast! Very nice review as usual :)

Dinesh just gave you the card for a review? Not bad!
 
Very good review supra :D

So its the 4870 vs 4870X2 for me :lol: Temp after the fan is fix is really good, guess i don't need to change the stock cooler :D.

Have to wait till september though :(
 
I take offence- that is not Ruby- with a makeover or whatever. :no:

Ruby can be seen on force3D cards. :)
Not expected from Supra of all the people. :(
Update:

I know- but not cool- it's like her ghost in a different shell. :(

They needed to change their image from ATi to AMD ATi but could have kept Ruby same in soul as well as perceived image. :P
Update 2: 12:00am crossed.

So finally checked the review.

Take my best wishes for granted henceforth please- sounds silly repeating the same everytime. :P
 
I take offense- that is not Ruby- with a makeover or whatever

This is her cousin sister lol :P

And the ruby I am talking about is in the heart of the card ! What you are seeing & talking about is just on the sticker.

"Dikhawe pe mat jao ! Apni akal lagao" Bikey saar :P
 
Supra said:
LoL u r asking abt MRP?Its 24k :P

Well MRPs are off no use....GTX 280 MRP is 45k :rofl:

Yeh, i know, thatz why i asked u..I thought, if it was19K on label, then thse distri deserve to get ripped off along with price..:rofl:
 
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