SETI@home TE update/revival ?

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terence_fdes

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Years ago, I was passionate and interested in joining the global search for extra-terrestial intelligence [SETI project]. However, I did not have a juicy system or sufficient band-width. Today however, things have changed.

Is there anyone on TE who has voluntered their systems time for this project ?
Is there a team "TechEnclave" group on SETI ?

Is it still relevant today ?

Here is an old thread on TE which fizzled off - http://www.techenclave.com/community/threads/massive-computing-grid-projects.28705/#post-285501

FYI
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PROJECT#01 SETI@home
What is the SETI project
SETI@home is a scientific experiment that uses Internet-connected computers in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI). You can participate by running a free program that downloads and analyzes radio telescope data

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Seti@Home-on-Your-Computer
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question204.htm
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/info.php

Cheers
Terry

(will try to tag guys from the original thread of 2007 to see if they are still around)
 
PROJECT#02
Einstein@home

Einstein@Home searches through data collected by the LIGO and GEO600 gravitational wave detectors for evidence of periodic sources (such as spinning neutron stars), which would be the gravitational equivalent of pulsars. Einstein@Home was launched as part of the World Year of Physics 2005.

Einstein suggested that we live in a universe full of gravitational waves. He proposed that exploding stars, colliding black holes and other violent events create waves that alter space and time. We have not detected these waves yet because it requires tools sensitive enough to measure very small effects. It’s like trying to detect a change in the distance from the earth to the sun equal to the width of an atom.

Technology has caught up with Einstein’s prediction. We now have detectors sensitive enough to see these waves. Two of them, the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory (LIGO) in the United States and GEO 600 in Germany, are working together to find gravitational waves from stars and black holes. These experiments require enormous amounts of data to be processed, so the LIGO group created Einstein@Home.

Einstein@Home uses private computers to process LIGO and GEO 600 data. Private computer owners can download software onto their computers that receives data from a central server. The computers process the data when they are not being used for other things, like email or word processing. Then, the computers send the processed data back to the server and can get more to analyze. Einstein@Home doesn’t affect how computers perform and you can stop it any time.
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I am keen on joining both these ventures by this weekend.
 
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I had done some work for seti, a few years back. Waste of time IMO. Extra terrestrial beings won't bother using radio waves to contact us since its slower than light.
 
I had done some work for seti, a few years back. Waste of time IMO. Extra terrestrial beings won't bother using radio waves to contact us since its slower than light.

CORRECTION - THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT ALIENS :mad:

You may be right on just 1 count (and that too 50% right) - that the aforesaid task (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu) - which I have not verified & which was the original idea of the SETI@home project - IS TODAY JUST ONE OF THE MANY, MANY, MANY FANTASTIC & AMAZING TASKS/JOBS RUN BY THE "BOINC" MANAGER

(I too was under the same mistaken notion that SETI is just that)................ SEE BELOW for What else SETI offers

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I HAVE INSTALLED THE "BOINC MANAGER" SOFTWARE & RUNNING IT ....... and too excited

I chose the Einstein@home & started - Dammit in 15 mins it has started using ALL THE JUICES from my system
- my 3770K is for the first Time running continuously at 100% - all 8 cores are being used (WOW)
- my Nvidia 660Ti is also running on full steam

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I have yet to figure out a 100 things about the settings and configuration of this "super-computational-grid-participatory-program"

BUT Back to you @6pack
and
I have my hands full trying to locate intelligence on this planet alone :(

THIS VENTURE/PROJECT TODAY - HAS A LOT MORE PROJECTS THAT COVER ALMOST EVERY BRANCH OF ADVANCED SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH from Climatology Studies & predictions; Cosmology; Malaria Control; Global Warming; Game-Studies; Astronomy/Physics/Chemistry; the LHC - Large Hadron Collider; the Milky Way; Quantum Mechanics; Mathematics (loads of projects); Biology & Medicine; Cognitive Sciences............
These projects are conducted by the Worlds top Institutions & Universities........ (I hope there are some Indian Universities too who are doing the same).

CHECK THIS LIST - http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Project_list
(I wish I could give you the BOINC add project list as I installed the software)

You can chose which project you wish your computer to participate in & then dedicate the idle time towards these tasks

I am too excited and will need to figure out a lot of things in the coming days..... (much of them are my own unfulfilled dreams of doing R&D in similar fields when I was younger).

WOW
terry

Attached screenshots of the tests being conducted - cpu running at 100% for over an hour :woot:

BOINC_20130430_2.JPGBOINC_20130430_3.JPGBOINC_20130430_4.JPGBOINC_20130430_5.JPG
 
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Since you're so interested in astronomy i take it you have already watched this documentary.

How the Universe works

Excellent primer on the subject. Very good review of lots of recent probes sent out by NASA and the findings they brought back.

Difficult bit is coming to terms with figures that are 12, 18 and 24 digits long. Our galaxy has 200 billion stars and there are billion galaxies out there. The asteroid that took out the dinosaurs had the force of 5 billion hiroshimas (!)

Lots of interesting ideas

Out of nothing came something - big bang

Everything we see on the planet, the atoms that comprise matter including life was made in the stars.

The water molecules in your left hand might have come from a different star than the ones in your right hand.

Out of destruction comes creation and vice versa. Black holes are central to the formation of galaxies.

Comets brought water to the planet and with it life, this is a theory for now until we can find some huge water bearing ones out in the asteroid belt.

Terry you didnt get my pun, i find this world populated with too many idiots that finding intelligent life on THIS PLANET is always a welcome discovery :D
 
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Yes.... I missed your pun @blr_p & thanks (sheepishly & blushing).

I was/am too excited at the moment at the things that I am re-discovering. In participating in these tests/projects - I am allowing my PC (which I spend a Bomb 1.5L +) to be of some use to society & our existence & the earth's future too.

I have spent the last 35 years of my life (since I was 14) in the pursuit of "what lies beyond-the-beyond." I was never convinced of all the Creation Theories that sprang from various religions & myths. Neither am I convinced of the Big-Bang Theory ('coz it can never answer the fundamental query - Where did the first Atom come from - surely not from nothingness!

Even today, I know that we know very, very little of the known & unknown universes/galaxies that lie in the deep & dark skies.......we do not know how Wide or Massive is this entire Cosmos........ Is there a center? Where is the farthest point? I have often taken kids & adults out at night to watch the skies & point out to them the planets & the nearest stars - and then slowly using the concept of "speed of light" & relativity, I try to make them understand the vastness of the "known" universe. Of the distance between the Earth > Moon > Jupiter > Pluto > Alpha Centauri > Milky Way > white holes > black holes - and even as we stare & speak, that so many of the stars have died & so many are being born.

Just last night I was discussing with my daughter (11 years young) as she asked me "How really HOT is the Sun & will it last forever?" as I answered her, I also told her that I am not sure whether our Earth will last as long (because of the terrible heat/summer that has now just started & global warming & how cities are getting hotter - because of the ills of our modern civilisation -cementing and tarring of our cities where the raw soil is closetted; vanishing green-cover; proliferation of AC's & other things that are thinning the ozone layer; over-population; diminishing food supplies; climatic aberrations; failing crops; of wars & poverty ........... She got worried - but then I assured (lied) to her that do not worry - the Earth will still be around for another 3-500 years. She & I then rested at peace - because we may not witness this Cataclysm in our lifetime.

From Isaac Asimov; Carl Sagan, Einstein; Fritzof Capra (Tao of Physics) to Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance to Neurosciences and Ecology/Global warming; Edison; Stephen Hawking; Particle & Nuclear Physics ...... down to Philosophy; Ethics; Morals; Logic and Existentialism. I have devoured and pursued these fields with interest. Why ?

To discover the questions of my mind and my own existence - and to seek for answers of the present - only then can I venture to discover about the future or postulate in some definite way.

Cheers
Terry
 
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I have spent the last 35 years of my life (since I was 14) in the pursuit of "what lies beyond-the-beyond." I was never convinced of all the Creation Theories that sprang from various religions & myths. Neither am I convinced of the Big-Bang Theory ('coz it can never answer the fundamental query - Where did the first Atom come from - surely not from nothingness!
Big bang is a misnomer because we associate bangs with matter turning into energy. But we know that mass & energy are convertible. The big bang is the opposite of a nuke explosion. Its incredibly concentrated energy turning into matter and creating space & time along with it. The question of course is how did that energy get so unimaginably concentrated in the first place. What was its cause.

We can already make minuscule amounts of matter from energy, so that's no mystery.

Harder things to fathom are dark matter & dark energy. Mysterious stuff whose existence is yet to be proven but must exist in theory or we've taken a wrong turn, a big one if it turns out that way.

Dark energy pushes galaxies away at an accelerating pace. There will be fewer things to see in the future than there are at present. Unless we and any other intelligent life forms figure out a way of FTL communications, distances will be too vast and with it time to ever have a real time communication with others in the universe.

Even today, I know that we know very, very little of the known & unknown universes/galaxies that lie in the deep & dark skies.......we do not know how Wide or Massive is this entire Cosmos........ Is there a center? Where is the farthest point? I have often taken kids & adults out at night to watch the skies & point out to them the planets & the nearest stars - and then slowly using the concept of "speed of light" & relativity, I try to make them understand the vastness of the "known" universe. Of the distance between the Earth > Moon > Jupiter > Pluto > Alpha Centauri > Milky Way > white holes > black holes - and even as we stare & speak, that so many of the stars have died & so many are being born.
If you have an android device with gps there is this app called Google Sky maps. Just point the device up at any corner of the sky and the screen will tell you the name of the stars. Always wanted something like this, only trouble is have to get out of the city to see any stars, too much light pollution.

Its only a matter of time when you put on goggles and have graphics describing what you see in front, a civilian HUD of sorts.

Just last night I was discussing with my daughter (11 years young) as she asked me "How really HOT is the Sun & will it last forever?" as I answered her, I also told her that I am not sure whether our Earth will last as long (because of the terrible heat/summer that has now just started & global warming & how cities are getting hotter - because of the ills of our modern civilisation -cementing and tarring of our cities where the raw soil is closetted; vanishing green-cover; proliferation of AC's & other things that are thinning the ozone layer; over-population; diminishing food supplies; climatic aberrations; failing crops; of wars & poverty ........... She got worried - but then I assured (lied) to her that do not worry - the Earth will still be around for another 3-500 years. She & I then rested at peace - because we may not witness this Cataclysm in our lifetime.


That's quite a laundry list you have there. Notice how contemporary it is. During the cold war everybody freaked out about WW3 and how it would end everything. Twenty years from now i bet that list will be different but the theme with the existential element will remain. This means so many things we worry might never come to pass. Why worry in that case or better still not be taken in by such predictions.

3-500 years ? Our sun isn't due to go red dwarf for another 5 billion years that's when its game over for this rock. That's a lot of time to figure out how to leave the planet and go on to colonising other planets and there are so many out there.

From Isaac Asimov; Carl Sagan, Einstein; Fritzof Capra (Tao of Physics) to Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance to Neurosciences and Ecology/Global warming; Edison; Stephen Hawking; Particle & Nuclear Physics ...... down to Philosophy; Ethics; Morals; Logic and Existentialism. I have devoured and pursued these fields with interest. Why ?

To discover the questions of my mind and my own existence - and to seek for answers of the present - only then can I venture to discover about the future or postulate in some definite way.
I think its easier to understand the universe than the mind.

Once you throw in a sentient dimension then all bets are off :)

Its all grey, it can be whatever you want and rationality matters less.

Its about force, your vision dominates provided you've got the guns & resources to back it up.

I would characterise the bulk of human existence as a series of resource & land grabs. This will not change.
 
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A question: There's every possibility that results from these shared computational projects will be patented and sold for 1000 times their costs. Would you still share your computer's resources for this then?
 
A question: There's every possibility that results from these shared computational projects will be patented and sold for 1000 times their costs. Would you still share your computer's resources for this then?

YES....YES....YES........YES.....YES a Zillion Times

Dunno what scares you bro, that you see a SCAM lurking at every corner :(

OK... Coalgate is upon us and maybe the present Govt may collapse; Campa Cola Residents are homeless; 4-5 year young innocent kids are raped & killed (it pains me terribly) .............. BUT
the Quest for Science and R & D MUST GO ON ....... If we as a Civilization should Live and Dream of a Future for ourselves and our descendents.......... and in ALL THIS WE
MUST
HAVE
FAITH
........... And this is where I will Offer my Computer's Resources to be utilized by the World's communities who are Researching for a Better Future - where current unanswered questions are tackled & the dilemma's of the future are analysed & better understood.

Tomorrow if my daughter or YOUR kids have to participate in such a venture - Massive Data Crunching & analysis, I would not like them to know that their Dad turned his back and walked away.

So I will let the "idle" time and whatever of my computer be utilised for these tasks.

I am not expecting anything in return.

I re-iterate ... I am just trying to fill in the gaps of my own unsuccessful desires of doing R & D in these fields from the last 35 years.
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I had done some work for seti, a few years back. Waste of time IMO. Extra terrestrial beings won't bother using radio waves to contact us since its slower than light.

i don't have anything to add to the topic of SETI but seriously, LOL, do you really think radio waves travel slower than light?
 
i don't have anything to add to the topic of SETI but seriously, LOL, do you really think radio waves travel slower than light?

Radio waves travel close to the speed of light. In rare instances do they travel slower - especially when they enter the earth's atmosphere
The velocity (or speed) of a radio wave radiated into free space by a transmitting antenna is equal to the speed of light - 186,000 miles per second or 300,000,000 meters per second. Because of various factors, such as barometric pressure, humidity, molecular content, etc., radio waves travel inside the Earth's atmosphere at a speed slightly less than the speed of light. Normally, in discussions of the velocity of radio waves, the velocity referred to is the speed at which radio waves travel in free space.
The frequency of a radio wave has nothing to do with its velocity. A 5-megahertz wave travels through space at the same velocity as a 10-megahertz wave.
http://www.tpub.com/neets/book10/40a.htm

Also check "Galaxy M82 Radio-waves" - http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18775-mysterious-radio-waves-emitted-from-nearby-galaxy.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_82

There are however experiments going on to push this barrier - http://www.geek.com/chips/faster-th...uld-revolutionize-computer-industries-821291/

Incidently, @namrata, how about you participating in SETI :) - which today gone way beyond it's initial objectives (see links/projects going on).

Cheers
Terry
 
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Radio waves travel close to the speed of light. In rare instances do they travel slower - especially when they enter the earth's atmosphere

does that really matter? it's like saying: "this jet runs at 300 miles/hr except for the "very first meter", where its speed will be limited to 299.999 miles/hr"
 
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