Where is the money going?

blr_p

Skilled
^ What is your point ?

That $10tr figure predates Modi. It's the reason for the world to invest in India.

investment shift.jpg
 
@blr_p: Don't mislead people by posting selective data. There was a massive investment in June in China, so it's natural taper down in July. Please post complete calendar year data of venture capital investments into startups in China and India.
 

tech.monk

Adept
@blr_p: Don't mislead people by posting selective data. There was a massive investment in June in China, so it's natural taper down in July. Please post complete calendar year data of venture capital investments into startups in China and India.
Also major questions to be answered here is Are Startups fuel to become global power?

Unicorn drive the growth (example SpaceX), these startups are Unicorn and not all startups quantify to be unicorn, which itself is a global truth. This data can be seen through Tiger Global like group which funds startups across globe - just see their profits out of each investment.

Even if we have bump in Investment, it will be temporarily jump unless those startups turn Unicorn or turn into large corporations.

Tab tak ke liye ye sab mungerilal ke haseen sapne hain
 

blr_p

Skilled
@blr_p: Don't mislead people by posting selective data. There was a massive investment in June in China, so it's natural taper down in July. Please post complete calendar year data of venture capital investments into startups in China and India.
And where is your report on where the money is going ? i gave you the data.

Point is we took in lots more this year. This came at China's expense. The world is decoupling from China. The world has decided that India is the better bet.

What is misleading about that ?

India's future is bright :)

China's is in the toilet not to speak about the Paks. I'd be worried if i came from these countries.
 
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India’s economy isn’t the China hedge global investors imagine it to be


China regains favor with investors who deem India overvalued

 

tech.monk

Adept
One more


Seems like Numbers shown elsewhere and at WhatsApp University are way inflated than reality.
 
Where is the money going ?
One eg., like this ?

Nearly 5,000 Indian millionaires, 2% of its high-net-worth individuals, moved abroad in 2020 - The great Indian outflow sets off another brain drain debate

 

imad7x

Disciple
China's is in the toilet not to speak about the Paks.
China's debt to GDP % is close to 50% while India's debt is at record high 74% GDP as of 2020. It was 50-55% in 2012 and 2014.
I'm certain you'll blame covid for this too so I'll point out that we crossed 70% debt:GDP in 2018.

Edit- India's GDP ratio increased to 90% during covid. Source
As for Pak, they're poor for sure, so is majority of India and yet we're paying way above 100 for petrol while they're paying less than 60 per litre. Not just fuel but also necessities such as LPG gas costs almost double as compared to 7 years ago even though the international price for natural gas has significantly gone down.
 

tech.monk

Adept

kiran6680

Disciple
Guilty until proven innocent ? that's not how it works in our system.
Innocent until proven guilty is to protect the public from the government. You are applying it in reverse.

The reason for such principles is that individuals are extremely powerless in front in governments, hence governments must be held to much higher standards. In the other hand, governments are supposed to be questioned relentlessly as they hold power over the people. So guilty until proven innocent is only a slight inaccuracy in the ideal behaviour - the exact one is "question until proven innocent". Which is happening here. Governments have resources to prove themselves innocent, funded by our money, so it is not unreasonable at all.

This is the case whether you personally like the ideology of the government, or not.
 

blr_p

Skilled
Innocent until proven guilty is to protect the public from the government. You are applying it in reverse.The reason for such principles is that individuals are extremely powerless in front in governments, hence governments must be held to much higher standards. In the other hand, governments are supposed to be questioned relentlessly as they hold power over the people. So guilty until proven innocent is only a slight inaccuracy in the ideal behaviour - the exact one is "question until proven innocent". Which is happening here. Governments have resources to prove themselves innocent, funded by our money, so it is not unreasonable at all.
The same principle applies to govt. How else are you going to make the case then ?

You can challenge laws they pass in the courts and even sue them. But you need a basis and we can't apply another principle just because its govt.
This is the case whether you personally like the ideology of the government, or not.
Opposition can say whatever they want. And most times its just that.

Title of this thread is a leading question and assumes guilt at the outset.

They are accusing on the basis of what ? data is there, open to the public, open to parliament.

Use it and then this thread gets off the ground.
 

lockhrt999

Disciple
I live in PCMC area of the Pune. It has one of the richest municipality. A person borne and brought up here would never imagine living in Pune or Mumbai. We don't know traffic, we don't know water issues. We got 8/4 lanes roads everywhere. You would assume that development is done here but you would be dead wrong. Since two years, municipality has dug up each and every road (and I do mean each and every road) in its territory to replace all drainage, water lines. And it wasn't like these things needed changing or if they were old. Why then? because it could. There's a lot of money to burn.
I have a new theory which is called "too much revenue / debt"

When I last posted in this thread, our municipality had just replaced old lines and laid a new fine termac. Alas, when you have too much revenue you gotta spend it somewhere. So, within a few months our inner roads are stripped of their new tarmac and are being prepared for concrete.

I think most cities are generating too much tax revenue and are suffering from this problem. You got tax on tax and then you got cess on those taxes. Gotta spend it somewhere. I feel most corporators don't want to get elected for multiple terms. They are all content with making as much money they can from a single 5 year term alone.
 

dexterz

Disciple
I have a new theory which is called "too much revenue / debt"

When I last posted in this thread, our municipality had just replaced old lines and laid a new fine termac. Alas, when you have too much revenue you gotta spend it somewhere. So, within a few months our inner roads are stripped of their new tarmac and are being prepared for concrete.

I think most cities are generating too much tax revenue and are suffering from this problem. You got tax on tax and then you got cess on those taxes. Gotta spend it somewhere. I feel most corporators don't want to get elected for multiple terms. They are all content with making as much money they can from a single 5 year term alone.
I had a similar chat with a neighbor who's a retired Govt Employee. He said in TN, they have fixed amounts every municipality or panchayat has to mandatorily spend or be called upto explain why they did not spend it. So they use these 100days Job scheme and other venues to just show expense without anything fruitful coming out of it. The roads in my area were relaid just as Govt power was set to change and right before monsoon. They finished it couple of months before the monsoon and now after the monsoons are done, its as if the roads were never laid. Just spending for the sake of it.

Even local Councillor and ward member elections saw a lot of spending from the participants to get elected. That implies a level of fund flow that these people want to siphon off.
 
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