Aadhaar card

Guys i need to get my mom a aadhaar card as she has no government ID. I tried being the introducer for her but the aadhaar centres rejected it saying only a photo ID will work. she has no Photo id or even a bank account. any solution to this. she does have a affidavit with her photo stating her name and address.
 
Hi,

Need to change address on Aadhaar card for my relative but mobile number is not registered and FAQ says you need to visit enrollment center to register mobile number.

In the UIDAI website search area there are a bunch of "shops" with individual's names and mobile numbers listed to contact. This is in Pune.

Should I go ahead an approach one of these "centers" for registering my mobile number? (Safe to do so?)

Once mobile number is registered then I'll proceed with online address change request.

Thanks![DOUBLEPOST=1458196664][/DOUBLEPOST]Alternatively, can I register first-time mobile number by sending the update form via post? The website is a bit contradictory, some places it says you "must" visit center to register mobile, other places it says you can send the form via post to register (not only update) mobile number.
 
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Lol Adhaar card. I thought the BJP was against it when the Congress introduced it. Anyway didn't the Supreme Court said this should not be made mandatory? Is it going to become compulsory for every citizen to register for it? I do have it. I just don't know its benefits. :|
 
I got mine in 20 days including police verification. Now police verification will be done after passport printing so that lag is also gone now.
 
So, Aadhar card can be given to anyone incl those who are not Indian Citizens. Once we have Aadhar card, can they use it get Ration card and then finally Passport?!
 
Can I just say that it will be easy to bypass the verification of adhaar? I mean using false information (for starters just watch Criminal Minds). The rules are not so strictly enforced. The govt. employees especially those in rural areas are very laidback. Its also very easy to bribe them. At best only developed/metro cities will probably have the toughest systems. I hope the police will do a better job with the passsort verification.
So imo Adhaar will not be the best way (for the govt.). Just saying. Actually that was why I never cared about getting an Adhaar card. Got it only after dad insisted. I'm glad though. Getting them can be a pain in the butt.
Btw have you guys got the card? The one which they sent you through post. Its been nearly a year now and I still haven't got mine. Some friends have received them though. Got the "card" printed from the online copy instead.
 
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iPwnz said:
Can I just say that it will be easy to bypass the verification of adhaar? I mean using false information (for starters just watch Criminal Minds).
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what do you mean by 'bypass'? do you want to get a fake aadhaar card? if yes, then you are lucky to be in india :p anything is possible here.

iPwnz said:
So imo Adhaar will not be the best way (for the govt.). Just saying.
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aadhaar card is not mandatory as of today. so, not having it shouldn't affect you in any which way. but having it, will be helpful as you then you won't have to carry a photo Id and address proof separately.

it was a pathetic, half-baked product from indian govt. either they should've made it as robust as SSN or shouldn't have harassed indians to get one made. every now and then i see people running around to get aadhaar card because govt comes up new policies to link aadhaar card with various schemes. i got the card in first wave and went thru a harrowing time. and i never got the need to take it out of the cupboard in the last 4 years!
 
Criminal said:
what do you mean by 'bypass'? do you want to get a fake aadhaar card?
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Not "want to", i already have it. Just saying that it will be an easy target for criminals and scammers to do it in the existing system with barely any proper identity check.
then you are lucky to be in india :p anything is possible here.
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Exactly.
every now and then i see people running around to get aadhaar card because govt comes up new policies to link aadhaar card with various schemes.
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True. Many people used to come to my institute everyday to register themselves for Adhaar while I could never figure out what the big deal it was about. I looked at some government notices and they said that applicants need to bring their Adhaar card. On the other hand the Supreme Court said it shouldn't be made compulsory. So much confusion it was such a headache. But i guess it will become relevant now with new policies which is not bad.
i got the card in first wave and went thru a harrowing time.
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Well hello, I didn't lol. :p The registration itself took less than 5 mins.
Btw did they sent you the original hard copy of the card? If yes how long did they take?

Also a strange thing was when i downloaded my adhaar pdf online they asked for my PIN code (obviously the one which I used for the registration) for pw to access it and I did but it was incorrect. Another PIN code worked. I don't know when they changed the PIN. Even Amazon also suggested a different PIN for my present shipping address (this doesn't match my adhaar PIN pw or the number which i use for everything else). So basically there are 3 possible PIN codes for my area. There hasn't been any official word or notification regarding this.
 
^^ that article just talks about security and privacy of the information captured. details about PAN, voter id, bank details, phones etc are already too easily available and we hand them over to random people (SIM/CC application etc) . and when you link one universal id (aadhaar) with all those other non-secure cards/data, the security and privacy related to aadhaar card just blow away!

govt tried to ape SSN with half-assed approach. so many years have gone by and govt haven't found an aadhaar (basis) for their aadhaar card. LOL
 
I just fear for my biometric data that they take. Can we file a PIL against that. I don't want to hand over my biometric data, no matter how secure they say their system is.
 
Criminal said:
^^ that article just talks about security and privacy of the information captured. details about PAN, voter id, bank details, phones etc are already too easily available and we hand them over to random people (SIM/CC application etc) . and when you link one universal id (aadhaar) with all those other non-secure cards/data, the security and privacy related to aadhaar card just blow away!

govt tried to ape SSN with half-assed approach. so many years have gone by and govt haven't found an aadhaar (basis) for their aadhaar card. LOL
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Security will always be an individuals' headache, the other numbers you mentioned are more important financially at this point of time than Aadhar per se. Privacy is what I'm concerned, which needs to be guarded by the state. Though Jaitley's Statement was contradictory on right to privacy , luckily the bill is robust on privacy. I think Aadhar will be an important document in coming years, in the metro I'm living in it doesn't matter much currently but in my village where I currently have my agriculture it has started mattering slowly. Though it is not mandatory, having it makes getting things done lot easier.

All our policy decisions are half baked in nature with poor implementation( combine that with a socio-economic diversity of India) But, they tend to get improved with time or obsolete to be scrapped altogether depending upon its effectiveness. Aadhar similar to SSN (Great initiative by UPA), With Direct Benefit transfer(Great initiative by UPA) , Free Bank Account per Individual (Great initiative by NDA), free (though meagre) insurance for every account holder (NDA), Now crop insurance (NDA); things are looking very much streamlined in a right direction if you can connect the dots.

rdst_1 said:
I just fear for my biometric data that they take. Can we file a PIL against that. I don't want to hand over my biometric data, no matter how secure they say their system is.
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Same here mate, but with every other phone coming with fingerprint scanner , our concerns will not find any takers( BTW how safe is our Biometric Data on Chinese phones ? I Love the Apple stand against FBI). I wouldn't have believed if any BJP mouthpiece had hailed the current Aadhar bill , its Nilkeni himself; so hopefully our right to privacy is well guarded .
 
drkrack said:
Security will always be an individuals' headache,
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It's Nilekani's job only. I don't expect any kind of brainy work from our govt, but Nilekani should've known that a Universal ID card can't have PII. Safeguarding PII on aadhaar card can't be an individual's headache because you are supposed to give copies of your card to all kinds of unauthorized people.

Protecting PII is an individual's responsibility but what can you do when govt asks you to hand it over to unknown persons? BTW, only people trained to protect PII can understand this concept. You must've read numerous posts on TE that how random people siphoned off their money over phone. Well, these people were never familiar with PII.

Anyways, can you give me one reason why an absolutely new ID was needed for all the great initiatives by govt? BTW, it's no point mentioning the political parties. It's just Indian govt for me.

Can you tell me why an existing ID, such as PAN card, couldn't be used as a Universal ID? It could've been upgraded with bio-metric details. PAN card would've been the best universal card keeping India's progress in mind. Regardless of whether a person is a rickshaw puller or a graphics designer, having a PAN card would've removed lots of kinks from our tax system. Our govt wouldn't have to come up with lots of schemes for the upliftment of poor.

4 years ago govt said that they were going to make Aadhaar card mandatory for every Indian citizen. I showed sincerity and applied for it in the first batch. I joined the queue at 5 am alongwith daily wage earners, SUV owners and salaried people. I was flabbergasted to see people from all walks of life and wondered why my fellow citizens didn't show the same level of enthusiasm to get a PAN card? They didn't want to be part of India's progress by paying taxes, however meager that be, and yet wanted to leech off benefits from the salaried tax payers? I really commend govt's thinking.

I got my PAN card when my salary wasn't even eligible for taxation. I still filed my IT returns for 3 years with zero tax liability. Govt couldn't ask a rickshaw puller to get PAN card but harassed every Indian citizen to scurry for an Aadhaar card.

BTW, my PAN card doesn't have any PII. Don't know how the current lot looks like.

drkrack said:
Though it is not mandatory, having it makes getting things done lot easier.
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Earlier, you were supposed to show 2 proofs and now it'll be 1. Govt just wants to push more people for Aadhaar card that's why they deliberately made things smoother with Aadhaar. Otherwise, can you tell me what magical info an Aadhaar card contains that other existing cards can't provide? I moved to new place 5 years ago and had to get lot of things done afresh. I haven't had to bring out my Aadhaar card in 4 years to get things done.

rdst_1 said:
I just fear for my biometric data that they take. Can we file a PIL against that. I don't want to hand over my biometric data, no matter how secure they say their system is.
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Even if govt ropes in 100 Nilekanis, you can never be sure of the security/privacy of your bio-metric data with the Indian govt (and govt employees).

- Our govt, army expect kickbacks in defense deals, at the cost of national security
- You'd often come across in news about defense personnel and govt employees selling off sensitive info to our neighbors.
- We have lots of politicians with criminal background
- When it comes to scandals, our politicians, ministers make world records
- Poor can't afford LPG and yet our ministers, politicians are gifted with tablets to watch porn

^^ How can you rely on such people to safeguard your bio-metric data :D

I think Indian govt should approach Chinese to make India Aadhaar compliant. Except bio-metric data, I guess by now they have gathered all other info necessary to print Aadhaar cards for every Indian :p. Ofcourse I am exaggerating but not much wrong.
 
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