Goodbye Avast, and good riddance; Hello, Bitdefender.

[k660]

You don't really need an anti-virus, just common sense and windows built-in security.

No.
One does need good AV.
Never seen avast being a good av in the past 5 yrs.
( Every god damn av advertise ls they are the best av, even quick heal it has gotten better lately but absolute dog water and spyware in the past decade. ).

There was a time when bitdefender was known to cause issues
( but that was back in 2017-2019, idk if that stuff is changed now. It reminds me of 100% hdd use, fml.)

I would like to second Kaspersky.
Never had an issue!
Though sometimes it can be quite aggressive when it comes to protection.

Many a times it offers a year of free service. If one is new user.
Then again one can keep resetting the trial period.

Ah, I picked up a Bitdefender family plan for around 2.7K. Might have to see these other options mentioned here, since they say they'll change 9K (!) next year.

I am pretty sure these days popular av have made their scanning tech free.

Oh yeah you wanna remove it, {it=virus, sus stuff}, you gotta pay for it.

 

[vivek.krishnan]

No.
One does need good AV.

Not true anymore. Defender has come a very long way. Plus their telemetry - as much as we hate it, does a good job here.

 

[k660]

Not true anymore. Defender has come a very long way. Plus their telemetry - as much as we hate it, does a good job here.

it is A one/A+ for normal users + ublock origin.

But I mess around too much with random things and sail a little here

sighs........ my reply was for op's thread/context, come on man.
yes it has come a long way but not enough, is my point.
hence for people like op who sails the seas and tinker around need a good av without breaking their system and for almost free , without pirating the av itself from sus sites.
a good av -
- ability to update itself even when users fool windows into no internet connection to stop letting windows update itself (not to long ago windows messed up their updates and started to break drives).
- ability to sandbox any browser tabs/link anytime inbuilt (defender can do it for edge only, if you know it can extend to other browsers, i am interested).
- before-hand and real time checking websites if they are safe or not and blocking them. ( many websites, either unintentionally or maliciously, can become attack vectors or infection hubs. yeah yeah probably browsers like brave can be helpful here. )
- Windows Defender (Microsoft Defender Antivirus) can be relatively with ease disabled or bypassed by scripts, while popular av, i have already named one, generally more resistant to such attempts.
- kernel-level protection/integration (i have love n hate relationship with this)
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- zero day (this one depends on companies and technically so far defender doesnt have good history with it ).
- all new malware targets Windows Defender by default (tch annoying but true)
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{okay that part of kaspersky vs defender i didnt expect he would straight up make it kaspersky vs defender entire video, freak you clickbait thumbnail}
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for more info; https://discord.com/channels/571342175678234640/1196057739672174662
discord - pchelphub. good knowledge base.
bad at helping, i mean technclave community been far better when it came to helping its users.

 

[t3chg33k]

it is A one/A+ for normal users + ublock origin.

sighs........ my reply was for op's thread/context, come on man.
yes it has come a long way but not enough, is my point.
hence for people like op who sails the seas and tinker around need a good av without breaking their system and for almost free , without pirating the av itself.
a good av -
- ability to update itself even when users fool windows into no internet connection to stop letting windows update itself (not to long ago windows messed up their updates and started to break drives).
- ability to sandbox any browser tabs/link anytime inbuilt (defender can do it for edge only, if you know it can extend to other browsers, i am interested).
- before-hand and real time checking websites if they are safe or not and blocking them. ( many websites, either unintentionally or maliciously, can become attack vectors or infection hubs. yeah yeah probably browsers like brave can be helpful here. )
- Windows Defender (Microsoft Defender Antivirus) can be relatively with ease disabled or bypassed by scripts, while popular av, i have already named one, generally more resistant to such attempts.
- kernel-level protection/integration (i have love n hate relationship with this)
--------
- zero day (this one depends on companies and technically so far defender doesnt have good history with it ).
- all new malware targets Windows Defender by default (tch annoying but true)
--------

{okay that part of kaspersky vs defender i didnt expect he would straight up make it kaspersky vs defender entire video, freak you clickbait thumbnail}
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for more info; https://discord.com/channels/571342175678234640/1196057739672174662
discord - pchelphub. good knowledge base.
bad at helping, i mean technclave community been far better when it came to helping its users.

Using security from other vendors is now mostly a placebo, which is the reason they are bundling stuff like VPN and insurance, since they cannot really differentiate on the AV front. Moreover, the kernel integrations create new attack vectors compared to how Microsoft integrates Security in Windows. Just posting one comparison from a recent test, but generally unless you go out of your way to mess things up, there really isn't a need to purchase a third-party solution.

Test Microsoft Defender Antivirus (Consumer) 4.18 for Windows 10 (241614)

The current test Microsoft Defender Antivirus (Consumer) 4.18 for Windows 10 (241614) from December 2024 of AV-TEST, the leading international and independent service provider for antivirus software and malware.

www.av-test.org

 

[k660]

mostly a placebo,

no, its placebo for normal users. (thats not a negative but a positive for how far defender has come).
there are atleast two negatives about defender i have shared em first and second one. and another one where all new malware target defender first and foremost.
why does people not read what op's post and what i said.
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the kernel integrations create new attack vectors compared to how Microsoft integrates Security in Windows

i am pretty sure i and others here kept selection to only popular ones. and i doubt any top ones wanna kill their company.
and
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Just posting one comparison from a recent test, but generally unless you go out of your way to mess things up, there really isn't a need to purchase a third-party solution.

once again, i have already mentioned it without pirating from sus websites without purchasing one can do it. i had chosen my words/intentions carefully based on the same website. which doesnt talk about how easily behavioral malware can bypass it.
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which is the reason they are bundling stuff like VPN and insurance, since they cannot really differentiate on the AV front.

hence i didnt bother mentioning them at all.
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(all this reminds/smells me of a mutahar and mental outlaws videos.)
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