India-Pakistan current war like situation discussion (Pahalgham)

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solo_wing

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Hello, would request not to bring communal part here. As it will simply get closed . Hope mods will allow this .

This is just to discuss where we stand as war like situation is escalating and more.
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Pakistan J-10C stuns Rafale with electronic Jamming.



Seems like India did try pushing Pakistan and test them with Rafale but our system was jammed and we had to go back to the base.

Pakistan is much well prepared too. Thanks to Chinese.
 
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blr_p said:
I have no faith in a story that begins :D

Pakistan’s Defense Minister Khawaja Asif made a startling claim
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Yes. I am not sure about it too.
Let's see how it develops further.

But I don't dismiss the possibility also.

We Indians maybe going around saying Pakistanis are beggar and all . They don't have money to buy food etc.
But they still have been upgrading well.
Thanks to US and China and Turkey.

It is not like they are just sitting idle.
 
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solo_wing said:
But they still have been upgrading well.
Thanks to US and China and Turkey.

It is not like they are just sitting idle.
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So don't hit them where or when they are strong.

Force on weak, always

Get their military to chase its tail then hit them

Try to provoke them to attack first then hit back

Many ways this can play out

You cannot defeat the Pak army militarily. That only strengthens them. You have to do it politically.

eg. What could the Pak army do after 370? Nothing

What can the Pak army do after IWT suspended? Also nothing

But there is an effect on them. Then their people will say why isn’t their army doing anything....
 
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Yes. There are always ways to deal with situation.

Pakistan is strong country militarily specially with Nuclear shield also.

My take is just keep putting pressure and now openly start supporting Balochistan freedom.
 
testingguy said:
yes its true there will be "mock drill" on 7th on many states i think its a good thing for us to be prepared on what to do even though a war happening chances are non existent
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But why govt wants to implement mock drill? Just for pr sake or real war incoming like gaza/israel or some other reason?
 
Ssreek said:
But why govt wants to implement mock drill? Just for pr sake or real war incoming like gaza/israel or some other reason?
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Psyches the Paks out. Oh see they are preparing their public for such an eventuality meaning something big will happen?

We have to be always on alert. Nobody can remain in that state for long.

Gaza/Israel is not a good comparison. Maybe Russia/ Ukraine is better. Meaning Russia fell for the trap. We must not do so.

Our goal is to break Pakistan. This severs the link with China and makes them too weak to do anything to us. We don’t need to go to war to break Pakistan.
 
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Pakistan cannot be broken without blessings of USA and USA would not want it maybe unless they think these Pakistanis have gone to close to china.
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Because they're afraid of nukes falling into jihadi hands and going missing.

We don't have this view in India. We believe the nukes are already in jihadi hands. Only they wear a uniform and have all the skills necessary to launch those missiles at us. So for us it cannot get worse than that. Firing off nukes takes skills of a few people. It isn't something JeM could do.
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Supporting Balochistan's freedom should have been raised much earlier.
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If the army has to fight on three fronts won't that break them. How to do that is already explained in that video linked above.
 
I don't watch or read a lot of news, so could someone here tell me if the state-sponsorship of the Pahalgham terrorists has been proven now? It will be a grave mistake to go to war with another country just because some non-state actors provoked us into it.
 
Ex-UN envoy and Diplomat under Congress calling Indus treaty junk


Where is that guy who was calling me bhakt on other thread..when I posted about Indus being one-sided and poorly thought by Nehru.

Wonder what he has to say now when diplomats under Congress have same views.
Tarantula said:
I don't watch or read a lot of news, so could someone here tell me if the state-sponsorship of the Pahalgham terrorists has been proven now? It will be a grave mistake to go to war with another country just because some non-state actors provoked us into it.
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This is not first attack.
When 26/11 happened ..all were Pakistanis . proved to the world and the world went and even interviewed the villagers.

Again for Pulwama the mastermind and rdx came from Pakistan.


It is Pakistan's responsibility to stop this continuous attack from its soil.

Otherwise we will go and stop it. That is how it is.

I remember about 5-7 years back I saw Amit Shah 's interview where he said..to the interviewer when asked "Kashmir ko shaanti se kyon nahi solve kare jung toh uska solution nahi"
To which Amit Shah said something like ". Pakistan ko terrorism rokna padega to talk with us first otherwise let there be war if needed....kya ek tarafa marta jaye"
 
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Tarantula said:
I don't watch or read a lot of news, so could someone here tell me if the state-sponsorship of the Pahalgham terrorists has been proven now?
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India doesn't need proof to act. Proof is only needed for diplomatic reasons to convince other countries.
Tarantula said:
It will be a grave mistake to go to war with another country just because some non-state actors provoked us into it.
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We're not going to war. But we can do plenty of things short of war.

The day after the attack the IWT was suspended. So what do you want to call that? Start of hostilities, war, something else..
solo_wing said:
Ex-UN envoy and Diplomat under Congress calling Indus treaty junk


Where is that guy who was calling me bhakt on other thread..when I posted about Indus being one-sided and poorly thought by Nehru.

Wonder what he has to say now when diplomats under Congress have same views.
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The effects are already being felt.

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Pakistan’s Indus River System Authority (IRSA) warned of a 21% water shortage during the early Kharif season (May–June) and 7% in late Kharif (June–September), citing reduced Chenab River flows from India.

This will be an ongoing thing over the years as we build dams. All you have to do is create unpredictability and it will cause them a lot of trouble. This will be a constant pressure point we can use against them
 
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solo_wing said:
It is Pakistan's responsibility to stop this continuous attack from its soil.
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Would be difficult when Pakistan's Defence Minister is alleging that India is the one financing terror groups on their soil via proxies.

Also:

www.ndtv.com

'LeT Involved?': UN Security Council Blasts Pakistan Over Pahalgam

Pakistan faced tough questions at the United Nations Security Council after it pressed for closed-door consultations over tensions with India in the aftermath of the Pahalgam terror attack.
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