Curious about members moving abroad -- why?

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Hey TE friends!

I've been seeing many members list the reason 'moving abroad' as the reason in the marketplace sales threads. I'm curious, where are you moving? What's the opportunity - education / job? Most importantly, why are you moving? What made you take such a big decision - leaving India to go to a different country?

As a 20-something year old, I'm looking to find out what's the reason for this recent surge in going abroad and to learn from what you all have to say. Please share your stories and let's have a conversation!
 
There are a lot of reasons: money, quality of life, better opportunities, whether in education or employment. Life also tends to be more convenient abroad: people have greater civic sense, you don’t have to haggle with sarkari babus to get things done, you get your tax money’s worth, there’s much more freedom, and no one snoops into your life or makes backhanded comments
 
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my question is why you shouldn't? when you can't have proper education, good roads, good security, honest judiciary, good infrastructure? leaders are enjoying with our money, taxing and abusing us. 4 pillars are protecting themself.

why you should not?

 
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There's nothing recent about it — people have been scrambling to leave this country for decades. Freshers after engineering who went to the US to work as petrol bunk attendants now own their own engineering firms (two of my relatives). Some went to pursue MSc and settled in careers that had nothing to with their MSc (another relative).

Simply put, if you're the kind of person who isn't very much attached to our "I should go hang out and talk with my friend/friends over some chai and biscuit/jalebi/samosa" culture — that is, person who thrives on social interaction — then a life in the west is an upgrade by every metric you'd define happiness and comfort.

I had that life for a while, I never felt deprived of anything. But I'm happy to be back and would not even dream of ever leaving India again. There's just too much of my heart here and after a while, your bank balance is just a number, no matter how big or small. Give this a listen:


With this current generation of graduates, your generation, there are more people returning to India than ever before. Maybe because of the global economy where we indulge in the same consumerism here as westerners do over there, but with a support network of childhood friends and relatives that the people before you didn't give much importance to.
 
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It is nothing recent. The lure was much higher 25 years ago....

Moving abroad is a very rational and the best decison for any talented person and person with high agency. Both traits are not put to productive use in India due to social justice maxxing. Anyone who could, should move out. (I say this as a BJP voter)

I couldn't, so I didn't.
 
Hey TE friends!

I've been seeing many members list the reason 'moving abroad' as the reason in the marketplace sales threads. I'm curious, where are you moving? What's the opportunity - education / job? Most importantly, why are you moving? What made you take such a big decision - leaving India to go to a different country?

As a 20-something year old, I'm looking to find out what's the reason for this recent surge in going abroad and to learn from what you all have to say. Please share your stories and let's have a conversation!
been there, done that in my family, bullshit is there in every country, its just you match the country with the bullshit you can bear, be it India or any other country and settle there.
It is nothing recent. The lure was much higher 25 years ago....
yeah, even US is almost impossible now, even with EB1, I remember my relatives moving in 90s, it was so much easier back then
Moving abroad is a very rational and the best decison for any talented person and person with high agency. Both traits are not put to productive use in India due to social justice maxxing. Anyone who could, should move out. (I say this as a BJP voter)
yeah, tbh unless you are a big business owner, you cant really make it big in India, only with money, comes connections which you can make use of , for ordinary folks, its pretty bleak here.
I couldn't, so I didn't.
Where would you have gone though? that for me has been the highest detractor, US is hell no for me, Canadians are suffering in their own country, and the Khalistanis/immigrants have soured Indian opinion even further there.
In EU, Britain is overly expensive considering you'll probably want to be around London and its boroughs for a white collar job, only Germany/Austria seems to be a worthwhile place to settle but the general Salary in EU is very low even though you get a shit ton of perks for it
 
Where would you have gone though? that for me has been the highest detractor, US is hell no for me, Canadians are suffering in their own country, and the Khalistanis/immigrants have soured Indian opinion even further there.
In EU, Britain is overly expensive considering you'll probably want to be around London and its boroughs for a white collar job, only Germany/Austria seems to be a worthwhile place to settle but the general Salary in EU is very low even though you get a shit ton of perks for it
It was 20yrs ago for me. I graduated from a top 10 engineering college (not IIT) and many of my peers moved to the US, some after a couple of years work ex. Almost everyone who moved are still there till date.

US is still the only place with the pay scale and opportunities to make the troubles worth it. But it is much difficult now. Western/Southern EU is going down the drain. There may be opportunities in SEA but I'm not that informed on that.... esp. the likes of South Korea and Japan struggling with their existential crisis of population collapse.
 
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Where would you have gone though? that for me has been the highest detractor, US is hell no for me, Canadians are suffering in their own country, and the Khalistanis/immigrants have soured Indian opinion even further there.
In EU, Britain is overly expensive considering you'll probably want to be around London and its boroughs for a white collar job, only Germany/Austria seems to be a worthwhile place to settle but the general Salary in EU is very low even though you get a shit ton of perks for it
Still many members are going to Cancuck
Living in cancuck is probably like career suicide
 
Still many members are going to Cancuck
Living in cancuck is probably like career suicide
yep, for me it's simple, I'd rather live in this shithole than go to a place where I am termed as illegal alien or where people actively demand for me to **** off.

besides it would be the height of hypocrisy for me if I protested against immigrants from Pak/Bangladesh and yet become an immigrant in some other place
It was 20yrs ago for me. I graduated from a top 10 engineering college (not IIT) and many of my peers moved to the US, some after a couple of years work ex. Almost everyone who moved are still there till date
H1B was much easier to get and convert to a green card before 9/11 and in the early 2000s, it's only after 2010s when the foreign craze started here that US tightened up their immigration policies.

As for SEA, if you think work culture here is bad, you simply won't survive in countries like Japan or South Korea
 
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if i had the money, i would have moved abroad too

joke's on me. i have the money yet cannot move for whatever reasons :p

but seriously, there's this saying "grass is greener on the other side", at least in my experience having lived/worked abroad for some time, at the end of the day you tend to miss home sweet home, if you know you know.
 
Best scenario - be rich in India and have money to travel wherever you want whenever you want.
I kind of feel the same, as a few of the older folks had chimed in - I also face a similar constraint of family and have to be adjacent to India at most.

I'm personally trying to settle in SG otherwise UAE - income would be quite higher and only a 4-5 hour flight to most major cities of India.