Wao, seeing your post after a long time. Yeah, they are on a roll. Maybe Intel got too complacent.
AMD Announces Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Price-cuts Across Ryzen 9000 Series
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desiibond
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This is unbelievable. 9800x3D in handful of games has higher 1% framerate higher than Intel's average framerate. And it is doing this while consuming nearly half the power and maintains lower temps. The sooner Intel realizes that 'quality trumps quantity', they will recover. They are going for cramming more and more cores (P+E BS in desktop is just plain stupid) and it is not working anymore.
I never took that route because of these reasons you mentioned.
Darth Vader
Level F
First they went P+E non-sense, then they disable HT and lost every lead they possibly could've had. Next Gen, Only E-Core to save more power and become a true x86 mobile chip for smartphones and tablets.
Since our PM is close friend of Trump, we should deport all Indian engineers back, get a x86 license and use Intel's TSMC slot to produce our own CPUs.
bssunilreddy
Level J
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D review
Source: https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review/
Tracer_Bullet
Level F
i bought it for 36k ( even went till around 32k). Its still good vs today's prices and an overkill for 3080 anyway.For gaming, AMD just took the world's biggest shit on Intel with the 9800X3D.
I'm a little jelly that my 7800X3D is no longer the top dog, but at least it's still in 2nd place
It would be nice if we can get 1 or 2 more good performance bumps on AM5 so that there will be easy upgrade options if its ever needed with a new gpu.
Nothing going right for intel these days.
desiibond
Level J
There are strong rumours now that Samsung may takeover Intel foundry business. Multiple foundries construction across Europe are now delayed. I kind of get feeling that entire company is in panic mode.
Number of employees at Intel is more than number of employees at Arm AMD Nvidia and TSMC combined.
Number of employees at Intel is more than number of employees at Arm AMD Nvidia and TSMC combined.
Nvidia, because they wanted to get into CPU business for a long time. Nvidia wants to completely take over Enterprise solution.
desiibond
Level J
Won’t happen. Will be blocked by feds as it will create monopoly.
Tracer_Bullet
Level F
Hopefully apple will not be allowed by same logic. Else intel/foundry will become mac only, if not now eventually in future.
Intel was cash rich i think, cant they grind through this phase ? Unless they think they cannot come back without cash support, this is probably a bad time to sell stake.
bssunilreddy
Level J
DrkLord
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Intel might go all in for processors, there have been reports of the corporate being not very keen with the graphics card side of the business. Acquisition of intel by apple or samsung isn't something one should be happy about. Or even decimation of Intel by AMD in benchmarks. Hope they make even half decent processors that can compete in lower/mid range pcs.
Like a current gen equivalent of a ryzen 5 9600, atleast this should get competition from intel's corresponding I5 offering. They won't lose much from losing out to the beasts that are 5800x3D, 7800x3D and 9800x3D but they will suffer severely should they lose decisively to ryzen 3 and ryzen 5.
Fingers crosses guys, monopoly is never good be it from intel, amd, nvidia or apple.
Intel's comeback completely relies on them getting the yields up on 18A process. They have invested a lot into it, skipping generations, so I doubt they will sell off what might become their cash cow, especially if they offer fabless services.
However, that would also depend on Trump not scrapping the dol given out under the CHIPS act. I would assume not since his government funding rhetoric is cancelled out by the more pressing local manufacturing one.
Their decision to pull out from discrete GPU market might not be a bad one. They are stuck competing on price at the lower-mid range which is also where AMD has said it will compete one. High end market is with Nvidia and AI accelators have much higher performance than GPUs in those tasks. At least, this has helped Intel significantly improve its integrated GPU performance and hopefully the driver updates will keep coming.
desiibond
Level J
The acquisition that is discussed about is fab business, not the entire company. They do have a solid winner in laptops (Lunar Lake) that will cover midrange and low end for sure. AMD is beating them left and right in every other industry. Given how big laptop market is, Intel better not lose grip here. Once the mindshare shifts to AMD here, there is no way Intel will recover. When AMD was down (bulldozer), they only had Intel to fight against. But now, Intel has to fight AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm (Microsoft), Apple and it is very hard to come back once they fall behind.
These other brands are lean and are innovating at rapid pace. Look at M4 reviews that came out yesterday. Intel will not have any answer to premium and high performance markets. In midrange market, we now have the Mac Mini that is just brilliant. Qualcomm's upcoming X v2 chips will further push Intel away from premium/performance segment. Moreover, these companies have very high margins and Intel is getting peanuts for each CPU sold. It just looks like Intel is on course to be the Xiaomi of computing.
Darth Vader
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