Monitors Suggest - IPS 22/24" Office Use (Budget 7-10k)

Emperor said:
Yes, along with you @OMEGA44-XT too suggest ACER brand but while searching at reddit/quora I found few negative thread about acer after sales service and issue with Monitor QC

@ykumar00 also suggest MSI but my 2 different offline dealer not ok with MSI, through both are ready to provide me competitive rate compare to any Online/Ecommerce website.




this MIS monitor has 8 bits (6 bits + FRC) ....

Frame rate control
Pure 8 bits is technically better. 6 bits uses FRC (Frame Rate Control) to get the desired 16.7 million colors of 8bit.

Frame rate control (FRC) is a method for achieving higher color quality in low color resolution display panels such as TN+film LCD.

Most TN panels represent colors using only 6 bits per RGB color, or 18 bit in total, and are unable to display the 16.7 million color shades (24-bit truecolor) that are available from graphics cards. Instead, they use a dithering method that combines adjacent pixels to simulate the desired shade.

FRC is a form of temporal dithering which cycles between different color shades with each new frame to simulate an intermediate shade. This can create a potentially noticeable 30 Hz flicker.

Source:- Reddit

6-bit can display 262,144 colors (which is really not that many), while 8-bit can do 16.8 million colors.

FRC can be used here to simulate 6-bit as 8-bit color, by flashing 2 colors every other frame to get an "average" color. The means that to your eye, it appears almost like an 8-bit display.
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Acer VG240Y is a better panel not just in response time & refresh rate.

Can you notice the difference? I don't know, its relative to your point of reference. Say driving a XUV 700 after driving an Alto will feel like an upgrade in performance but XUV700 is inferior for someone driving a Ferrari. I can notice the difference in panel quality because I am used to high quality display panels.
 
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Emperor said:
this MIS monitor has 8 bits (6 bits + FRC)
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Around the 10k budget with FHD resolution most if not all the LCD monitors are 6bit+FRC. Since you've been using the Dell monitor with 6 Bit + FRC panel have you found any major color deviation/degradation?
If you want an 8-bit panel then you'll have to increase the budget and get a QHD screen with 120+ hz screen. Even the QHD 100Hz panels are 6 Bit+FRC. The lowest-priced ones are from Acer ofc (VG or the XV variants).
Also, the concern of longevity is valid until you realize that any region with high humidity and dust would degrade/kill electronic equipment relatively quickly. As for monitors the vents are there for passively cooling the PCB and the panels in scenarios where it's used at or near full brightness for hours/days, for regular usage they hardly require any cooling. The panels are already sealed and PCBs have a conformal coating to protect against dust and humidity.
There are a few Acer ultra-slim models without any vents like the SA240Y. You'd need to be a bit more careful while adjusting them.
Before you buy any model just call the brand to see if they have a nearby service center. As you read more about IPS/VA LCD panels, you'll come across many people complaining about Back-light bleed, dead/bright pixels, scan lines, and banding among others. If you're against Amazon/Flipkart with open box then going with those offline dealers is also great, just check the unit and clarify any shortcomings then and there.
 
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Alucard1729 said:
Around the 10k budget with FHD resolution most if not all the LCD monitors are 6bit+FRC. Since you've been using the Dell monitor with 6 Bit + FRC panel have you found any major color deviation/degradation?
If you want an 8-bit panel then you'll have to increase the budget and get a QHD screen with 120+ hz screen. Even the QHD 100Hz panels are 6 Bit+FRC. The lowest-priced ones are from Acer ofc (VG or the XV variants).
Also, the concern of longevity is valid until you realize that any region with high humidity and dust would degrade/kill electronic equipment relatively quickly. As for monitors the vents are there for passively cooling the PCB and the panels in scenarios where it's used at or near full brightness for hours/days, for regular usage they hardly require any cooling. The panels are already sealed and PCBs have a conformal coating to protect against dust and humidity.
There are a few Acer ultra-slim models without any vents like the SA240Y. You'd need to be a bit more careful while adjusting them.
Before you buy any model just call the brand to see if they have a nearby service center. As you read more about IPS/VA LCD panels, you'll come across many people complaining about Back-light bleed, dead/bright pixels, scan lines, and banding among others. If you're against Amazon/Flipkart with open box then going with those offline dealers is also great, just check the unit and clarify any shortcomings then and there.
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is Dell S2216H monitor has 6 Bit + FRC panel? really didn't aware and was in daydream that I paid 10k for this monitors in 2016 so got the best :oops:
 
while reading users reviews at Amazon, found that most of reviews are based on Size & Panel, rarely any review about PARTICULAR MODEL.
Also under Acer EK240Y E (23.8) IPS monitor page, they added other 21.5" and VA Panel monitor review also.
Making it hard to decide base on those mix reviews
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Display Quality: The colors, images, and videos are average—not great, but not terrible either. The screen has a yellowish tint, which is causing some eye strain, and I haven’t been able to fix it with the settings yet.
 
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sandeepsachin said:
You can select the Particular model for which you wanna check the reviews, from the drop down list box
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Yes you are right, but I mean to say, Amazon combined 2-3-4- products (same brand but different variants/model) and it may mislead to buyer that only one model have got so much likes (2000-3000 likes)
 
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Yes you are right, but I mean to say, Amazon combined 2-3-4- products (same brand but different variants/model) and it may mislead to buyer that only one model have got so much likes (2000-3000 likes)
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That is always there on amazon from the beginning. Also, another issue is that if model is very long running then there are differences even between hardware versions quality/performance over the years even if they all have same model name. No point in getting so confused over monitors unless you are truly a colour/video enthusiast in which case you would not even think about such budget tier monitors. Make a trip to some local pc shop that has monitors on display or just ask around which monitor brand has bad service in your area & avoid that brand.
 
guest_999 said:
That is always there on amazon from the beginning. Also, another issue is that if model is very long running then there are differences even between hardware versions quality/performance over the years even if they all have same model name. No point in getting so confused over monitors unless you are truly a colour/video enthusiast in which case you would not even think about such budget tier monitors. Make a trip to some local pc shop that has monitors on display or just ask around which monitor brand has bad service in your area & avoid that brand.
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there is a real confusion for me,

When I ask MSI dealer about monitor he told MSI is very good and buy only MSI, when talk with LG dealer he keep praising LG, when contact Dell dealer he keep praising dell and when I went with all brand dealer he told by LG, Dell, Samsung all are good, as he do not have MSI so he avoid my query about MSI and in last went with another shop he told Rs.5k MSI OR 10k ACER both have same quality ....
 
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there is a real confusion for me,

When I ask MSI dealer about monitor he told MSI is very good and buy only MSI, when talk with LG dealer he keep praising LG, when contact Dell dealer he keep praising dell and when I went with all brand dealer he told by LG, Dell, Samsung all are good, as he do not have MSI so he avoid my query about MSI and in last went with another shop he told Rs.5k MSI OR 10k ACER both have same quality ....
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Don't ask the brand exclusive dealers, instead ask those shops which sell multiple brands monitors & they should eb able to tell you which brand products they get most complaints from regarding after sales. Of course there is a possibility that they will try to advertise a specific brand as good on which they get most commission so focus on which 2-3 brands they say have bad after sales support & if that leaves only one brand which they also sell that means they are not telling the truth. My own guess is that MSI should have the worst after sales support based on their motherboards & laptops buyers feedback on reddit & chances of lenovo having bad after sales support should eb low while dell should be the safest option when it comes to after sales support. As for acer & other brands my guess is it depends on your city.
 
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Is using tv (full hd 24) one's recommended? What would I lose out if I use a tv instead of say a monitor? No gaming, mostly into office work, bit of photo editing and watching movies??
 
malsawm said:
Is using tv (full hd 24) one's recommended? What would I lose out if I use a tv instead of say a monitor? No gaming, mostly into office work, bit of photo editing and watching movies??
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You will lose a lot in terms of text clarity & overall monitor functions. A TV is good to use as a monitor if most of the usage is going to be limited to youtube/streaming sites/watching movies & some occasional browsing. Not to mention, any 24" TV available nowadays would be much worse than any 24" monitor from any major brand in terms of screen quality.
 
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Don't ask the brand exclusive dealers, instead ask those shops which sell multiple brands monitors & they should eb able to tell you which brand products they get most complaints from regarding after sales. Of course there is a possibility that they will try to advertise a specific brand as good on which they get most commission so focus on which 2-3 brands they say have bad after sales support & if that leaves only one brand which they also sell that means they are not telling the truth. My own guess is that MSI should have the worst after sales support based on their motherboards & laptops buyers feedback on reddit & chances of lenovo having bad after sales support should eb low while dell should be the safest option when it comes to after sales support. As for acer & other brands my guess is it depends on your city.
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Dell don't have any 22"/24" IPS choice in 8k and same story with Lenovo too.

Was used dell last 2 times 1st was Dell ST2220L (TN Panel) last 5 yrs and 2nd Dell S2216H (IPS Panel) cost 9k and last 8 yrs. but both bought before June 2020 and in my view maximum electronics goods degrade quality (QnC checking) after June 2020 (due to Corona, Supply Chain & Geo-Political Issue)

Went with IT products distributor (they didn't deal in Monitor or PC/System) but all other accessories, they have 3-4 AOC Monitor in their Office and going good, but all that Model are 2 yrs. OLD with 75Hz-5ms Response Time.

I'm not in gaming but think that having at least 100/140/180 Hz screen might give good reading/viewing experience and may be newer model have some improve Quality Control as since last 2-3 yrs, green line etc. issue strike on various displays (mobile/TV/Monitor/Laptop etc.) very frequently.

About after sales, if quality of product itself is good than there is no worry about ASS, but as said above after June 2020 all brands have quality issue.
 
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Is using tv (full hd 24) one's recommended? What would I lose out if I use a tv instead of say a monitor? No gaming, mostly into office work, bit of photo editing and watching movies??
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Your eye health!
TV is good only for media consumption, not for long working hours that involves reading text.
 
Emperor said:
Hi,

Any suggestion for good & durable (as my 2 last monitors just last for 5/8yrs. only) 22/24 Inch IPS Monitor?

Looking for IPS as use same maximum time for Read-Read-Type and also for Serial/Movies/Cartoon etc. etc.

Budget 7k -10k, lowest will be prefer, as now days (after 2020) no guarantee even for costly electronic products and warranty is very hard thing that any brand honestly offers without any hassle/lot of headache/complaints etc.
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LG Ultragear IPS Gaming Monitor 60 cm (24 Inches), FHD 1920 x 1080, 1ms, 144Hz, AMD FreeSync Compatible, HDR 10, sRGB 99% (Typ.), DP, HDMI, Height, Tilt & Pivot Adjust Stand, 24GN65R @ 10k
 
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