Hi, so if you are active on twitter from past month or so,things seem bleak lately,
the govt. is doing the worst appeasement politics in decades,sc/st acts becoming draconian to point where its just moronic to have such laws,
corruption being super rampant across all departments to point where its considered the norm,
reservation is pushing 80+ % thanks to the current govt.,
soon demands for private reservations,
anyone who want to getS into govt. only wants to go there so that they can leech of public money some more,
and i can keep going on and on and on…
i used to be optimistic about india,
thats why i didn’t even try to get out of the countryalmost all polititians preach stay in India,
make in India, etc, etc but their entire families are citizens of different countries.
people in power dont even see common people as humans.
BJP is bad, congress is worse, everyone else is just worse as well.
some good leaders in BJP but other than that entire party is rotten, same with congress and pretty much everyone else.
its just super bleak…how yall feeling lately ? is it just my stupid timeline or y’all are feeling the same ?
Yes , but who are the ones passing such acts ? It is the FC , BC , OBC , Minorities whom YOU elect and NEVER seek any accountability .
This is 1 myth . Most castes want to be included in BC , MBC etc for the benefits . As long as they are getting the benefit by screwing the Castes higher in the social order they are happy . It is like SC screws MBC , MBC screws BC , BC screws FC . The imaginary hierarchy between the castes and the benefits accruing out of those representations is what makes them fools . It is like I do not mind being 1 eye blind as long as the person above me is 2 eyes blind .
The politicians are the same . Most BJP men are ex- Congress .
Off late , there is . Minority religion votes are mostly powerful as they have dikats from Churches , Mosques for whom to vote . No offence intended to any religious groups , but In South India it is done .
Religious voting blocs are not majority. As I said there is no single majority group in India w.r.t numbers (Hindu majority is just a mirage… no such thing). But many minority groups are much powerful in affecting policy due to their international support.
To simplify the complex dynamics in India:
strong and powerful voting/influential blocs in india - govt workers and unions (IAS/IPS union is the most powerful union in India), minority religious groups (christians, muslims, sikhs mostly), then there are caste groups (pan India and regional), rural women, urban women, then some independent (mostly urban) voters who mostly vote for BJP because of TINA, then hindu nationalists (half of them are now anti-bjp lol).
Almost all of them just vote for more entitlements to their group. As a voting bloc christians and muslims along with some caste groups vote mostly for anti-bjp. After the BJP core voters (highly transactional), the swinging voting blocs in favour of BJP do so just because they don’t trust the opposition that they would actually give the promised entitlements/freebies.
Modi slightly skews this observation due to his personal integrity, charisma and pan-Indian appeal. The anti-incumbency and absolute opposition unity (INDI block) negate the effects of his image currently. though the BJP election machine wins while copying more from the opposition playbook.
btw it was almost exactly the same 15yrs ago nothing new. Just that now there is not much juice to squeeze out of the tax payers and the effects are getting worse. IT sector income cushioned this and delays the inevitable.
Yes, just explaining the political voting situation in the previous post.
Apart from that, economically we went from one of the Asian tigers to the fragile five at the end of UPA 2. Myriad of such reasons are why BJP won in a landslide.
We never were a fragile five. It was just a dud news and a prediction that was recently popularized by a politician. Similar predictions keep on happening on bjp as well.
It will be better not to copy the reddit-india sub mentality of everyday / weekly India self-deprecating threads. We already know where we stand, only hope for better and helpful acts can take us forward. Self criticism for betterment is okay, otherwise we are all beaten down mentally or morally as it is.
While corruption was there we cannot discount the fact that we came out with flying colours after the 2008 collapse . Oil was at the highest which forced Indian govt to rethink and invst in oil fields across the world .
That is a myth . We had a parallel economy as big which protected us from shocks . We also happen to have the highest gold in household savings .
In the south , yes . In the North ,No . BJP seems to have understandings with most religious groups .
No. He was and is a Snake oil salesman . There was no Gujarat Model . Only successful model as far as I know was the HYD model which no one talks about . Today the HYD model though not talked about has proved itself .
despite all this shit, even though i know a civil war might be coming, and everything in between….i am hopeful….like just a little bit….1-2% but still hopeful, not sure how long i will be for
It was just too much corruption, and gandhi family was looking at saving power at all costs from what i remember.
So called honest pm did not have a clue what was happening in his own coal ministry. One after another after another. So many things, it was a big relief when they were finally booted out.
Dumbass son is still here blocking anyone else from taking his place even if he is getting completely rejected in elections. Party full of sycophants. India deserves better alternatives. These guys seem to be just waiting for people to get fed up of bjp ( incumbency .. ).
I may not like BJP, but congress was and still is much worse.
That said, its not so simple. I used to think the UK has good politicians, people giving up power and positions if rejected etc. But they seem to be no better.
So, i don’t think about politics too much.
Atleast in many areas we seem to be getting better whether because or inspite of politicians.
In India, why ??
Maybe some people are projecting personal situations to state of country ? Reddit is full of similar sentiment and oddly has fond memories of MMS. Better reduce time spent on reddit.
In many ways we are better off for sure. Hell pakistan seems to be so weakened now, that’s a bonus.
Because there was accountability , CAG used to provide audited reports and social media activism was at its best then .
The PM cannot have his eyes on everything and there is something called keeping quite for the greater good . As far as his job was concerned he steered the country clear of the crisis , made strategic investments and had good relations with other countries .
The current joker has no clue , donates public wealth to Adani with impunity and gives sops like the recent 10k per vote in Bihar .
Most seem not to understand that the Dumbass is not there on his own will . There is the Congress machinery which will keep the family to get their work done . Each one is a leader in the Congress . Especially the state leaders who hold the Central leaders and leadership to ransom . Only person who really had control on the party in absolute would be Jayalalitha .
yes this might be true, but it did not help reduce corruption, it was rampant no?
Perhaps you mean for the good of the family ? I dont how it was good for the country.
If you cannot handle it ( it was his ministry as far as i remember), give some else the responsibility. They were giving allocations to anybody from i remember.
You mean other countries were happy because India was weaker ?
Does good relations with Pakistan help ?
Maoists used to be a big problem, probably supported by china. Issues seem to be gone now ?
USA is a nutcase right now, he would likely not have done anything better.
I clearly remember china pushing us, and him going to usa complaining. Doing nothing, and being afraid to improve infra along Indian borders. Compared to that, we are likely much better off today.
But i am no expert.
If you think Indian military men’s opinion has some use, then below channel might give atleast one good perspective.
yes bjp model of development seems to involve raising stock price on low float or other ways - patanjali / Adani / perhaps gadkari.
He is not a slave. Walk away. Maybe work for a living.
Anyway, i dont care that much. India will keep growing for now inspite of these politicians. I am doing alright. But yeah so many poor people outside.
Where is the so called CAG ? Does the current govt even bother with the CAG anymore ?
No , I meant the country . The rats were focused on the steal and he was focused on the issues and policies .
Would you not like a weaker pakistan , weaker Europe and a weaker America ?
Why are you focussed on pakistan ? There are 180 other countries and we never had diplomatic crisis that we are facing today .
That is called diplomacy . Today China has occupied 4k Sq KM and most media or Indians are in the dark about the borders . Do we have a decent media to do any work these days ?
Check those videos , and the interviewees . Their back ground and credentials . 1 person I see is Sree Iyer a known RSS and Modi supporter .
When one is born into a family it is hard to walk away , especially after losing a few members to terrorism .
Pakistan has always been a major thorn and a clear threat. Why not be happy if they are getting weaker. Even better would be if they behaved well.
What diplomatic crisis ? USA is the one change we can see, what else ? We had a trade deal with UK, we might be getting one with EU.
Russia has always been a good partner and we have always supported them from what i can remember - irrespective of parties. And west keeps trying to break that. We will likely be weaker if we went full tilt towards west, and usa does not seem to be that great for its partners. With russia, we hopefully have some counter to china and west.
I also think when modi first got elected, he actually seemed to try and shift to USA a bit vs Russia. It did not seem to work out well, and russia started talking pakistan. Eventually natural order got restored, that’s how i remember.
From what i read, they have been doing this for a long time to many countries. This has happened with MMS too. And he went to usa to complain. Was afraid to improve border infra, i remember this.
Its probably the first time we took a stand against them and from what i read it was not a disaster. Should we remain meek ? The army guys in above channel seem to be confident against china.
No idea about current status, but lets see what happens in future.
That said, i think the trigger for that attack was India being part of Quad maybe. I hope we learnt a lesson from ukraine, and dont do usa’s work for them. This is just me speaking probable nonsense, but reasonable relations with china would be a plus.
I am mostly taking about the channel guy who is some some ex general. He and other military guys often have talks and give opinions. I dont watch that much as its too much, should we disregard it completely because of one guy that you dont like - who is also more of a host asking for opinions ? Anyway, time will tell once i see what they say vs how things play out. So far they have been fine, but ofc they will have India bias.
So full country should suffer because of this, because of his personal situation ? Because his dad died, do we put whole family at a pedestal ? I dont necessarily dislike him, i dont care.
But even people who dont like BJP only have him as alternative and he is not getting votes. Is that good ?
Modi got elected because of the deep state and the USA . They started the Chaos , sponsored Kejriwal , Anna . So , yes Modi was offering his gratitude when he tried to shift to the USA .
China got audacious with a meek Modi . Modi and his ecosystem has a lot invested with and in China . So Modi will not cry even if he is slapped by China . The trade deficit btwn China and India is alarming . The FM says China is a strong Country and admits to India being weak .
Not really . Nothing can be done as long as political parties are allowed to have all the funds and independents cannot contest against financial muscle . Unless we have an equal ground for contestants in elections nothing will work .
All said and done , who is the next option ? No one . Let us assume Modi is gone . Is there anyone else in the BJP capable enough ? No . The only option that remains is the dumb ass .
