Pitbull attacks child in Mumbai

If such law can’t be implemented, it can be or already being misued in many incidents?

For eg- Some guy who owns a dog, doesn’t like a person or a child in his street, makes the dog attack that kid? Another incident is, someone can even lure those dogs to murder people and escape easily without being held for punishment?

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The video pretty much shows everything about this topic, there are good dogs bad dogs, good humans bad humans , good men bad men, good women bad women good Muslim bad Muslim and so on ..

What’s with people suddenly wanting to hate and generalize everything / everyone , x happens all x bad , all women and , all * uncertain certain class / religion * bad..

I have had stray dog bite me when I was kid ( probably it was slightly mad ) I have owned pets since, rescued multiple dogs fed street dogs never had issues ..

We do know right there are dogs that even military uses and guard dogs used by various people at homes ? And ofc I have seen so many friends have Pets and none have actuqlly bitten anyone .. but ofc everyone human or animal sometimes well crosses line if u well entice them or well offend them obv sometimes things happen not all are well behaved … That doesn’t mean after a so case all men should be banned because that’s what this post sounds like .. I mean how many times have u seen people throw rocks at animals and beat them as well what do u think happens to them if they get treated that way ?

Regardless on took, pitbulls are an aggressive breed though and always need to be handled very carefully that I agree :slight_smile: they and need to handled carefullyeven then it depends on how owners keep em, but generally othe breeds like lab and so are super friendly ..

I’ll tell u a small story it might resonate..me and a neighbour got beagles at same time , both super well behaved played with kids all the time in fact 2-3 year old kids often came to my house took mine to their home too sometimes or to play with it as kids were fascinated by em and since like 5 kids in my locality got a pup.. anyway , so the neighbours beagle they got him a trainer and apparently he used to beat him to teach him salaam and all shit ( owner didn’t know ) suddenly he became very aggressive bit owner once and I think even mildly attacked a kid so he was kinda labelled dangerous but kids always played with mine still.. anyway once they understood and fired the trainer it became fine .. even then he never attacked me in his aggressive phase even if I hit him in fun way / playful because it knew it was safe with me.

What I am trying to explain just like with humans nurture matters and surroundings same as humans in how they behave and generally most probably 99 percent are safe unless u just go by senstaionalised news who just want clicks and sell negativity.

Ofcourse owner need to take care of em in social settings but recently I remember at a party at friends who owns a dog which had never bitten anyone , a friend of his after getting drunk was pulling its tail and kicking it pretty hard it growled twice ran from there and then finally bit him ..

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Honestly, in the first video I don’t see the dog biting the child at all. It’s nipping playfully at him, which is probably terrifying for the kid, but does not signify harmful intent on the part of the dog. He did catch his clothes in the end, but I think that was part of the game in the dogs mind. The dog does not seem aggressive to me.

Terrifying the kid was bad behaviour on the part of the owner, but it didn’t warrant the sensational headlines the news and social media channels have given it.

In the second video, the small dog did bite the kid. The owner is an arse**** for laughing at the kid, and deserves to be called out. But that dog is too small to cause any permanent physical harm.

I’m an 80’s kid who’s grown up around animals. Have had and have multiple pets. Have treated multiple injured animals, who’ve bitten me in fear, pain and panic. Have experienced a decade where we thought music could save the world. I think the younger generation is quicker to take offense, cry over pain, and get carried away by sensationalist news stories and social media posts than we were.

I’ve got 2 cats and a dog at present. They’re very social, and friendly, but my dog is a bit over-friendly, and can scare people with her barking and jumping. As her father, I’ve made it my job to make sure that she has as many human friends as possible, and that no one is scared of her. If I see kids who are a bit frightened, I hand her leash over to them, and ask them to hold her for a bit while I do something else. The kids get over their fear, and my dog makes a new friend.

The way I play with my dog will look really scary to a non-doggy person. We jump on each other, she nips at me, like the dog in the first video, catches my clothes, growls, snarls, runs around, barks, and rolls over happy. She has only ever hurt me once, and that was by accident, and she spent the day in misery feeling guilty.

I don’t know enough about the incident in the video to make a judgement. The owner thought he was being funny, and the kid and his parents were pissed. But he did not look like (to me) he was physically harmed in that video.

A lot of people are scared of dogs and have had bad experiences with them in the past. I can understand why you’ll hate dogs, and their pet parents. Hate us all you want, and troll my post if that’s what makes you feel better. But, instead, I’d suggest trying to get over your fear so that you can see animals without hate covered lenses. Once you look at them with empathy and understanding, you will no longer be scared, and they will no longer think of you as a threat, and will either approach you non-aggressively, or just leave you alone.

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Dogs are generally very social animals. We used to have 2 dogs when a Cobra came into our compound one dog began to corner it while other dog comes to the door and barks and taps at the door.

My uncle went to see what is the matter and sees the cobra and we called a hunter who killed it with a thin stick. We asked him to bring his gun instead.

These 2 dogs are German Shepards and
We have 1 other dog which is Rajapalyam breed.

Even this dog loved us so much but during a marriage ceremony we gave it to a dogs trainer from where it ran away and even while we searched for it we could not find it.

Never ever have these 3 dogs bitten us. We were 6 kids in a joint family of 3 brothers and 1 sister.

This was 20 years ago.
Now we don’t have any dog or cat since my parents became very old and my wife does not like pets.

My daughter brought 2 parakeets once in 2019 and gave them back to the dealer because they were causing a lot of commotion in our apartment complex. We keep them outside in the morning till afternoon.

Exactly, can do that in this country or abroad and get away scot free.

So why no law like OP wants with this big elephant in the room :slightly_smiling_face:

This is the puzzle to solve

More people with dogs or who understand them should post here to have a rounded discussion

@iPwnz

The law recently changed regarding this, saw it on IG. Not only the owner will be punished, even if a stray dog under your possession (you feeding regularly in your home / or in area whith high footfall?), bites someone, you could go to jail.

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Not so fast :slightly_smiling_face:

There’s holes in this new ipc

The woman in the lift in that second video won’t have a problem

What the flying fuck?? If he wasn’t physically harmed, it’s not a big deal?

Irresponsible pet parents are the only reason why people have negative opinions of dogs. You might feel that nipping and playful biting’s fine, but you should not expect a 10 year old to overcome their fears.

It’s like saying this is correct.

go-for-it-homelander

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Yep that’s it.

No negligence, no grievous harm then no case.

Simple as that

Now how to counter this?

By hiring a lawyer. :upside_down_face:


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Hah,let me know when the case is won.

Once Faye explained it, its quite obvious where things stand.

Appeals to emotion with no legal argument are good for media not real life

Learn to defend or avoid are the only options

True, even if we somehow win in this country, it still feels like a loss in the end. I have never seen anyone genuinely happy after winning an honest case, because the time, stress, and money it takes to get there rarely outweigh the toll it leaves behind.

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trauma uncle ji

I hope you realise what this sentence implies. I’d like to believe I’m misinterpreting it, because the alternative is disturbing.

Enticing means if you poke at some dogs they might bite you or chase you down the road and sometimes simply driving on the road also makes them chase you in anger.
In such situations we have to stop and let their agitation subside and then move on.
Only some dogs in my township chase my bike or car not all and I don’t know why.

I used to feed some strays and they always recognise me near my house and wag their tail. They never bark on me but when they see any stranger dog they jump leap on to it and bark like anything.

Maybe that’s why they are called village lions for a reason.

My focus was more on the “human” aspect of what they said, what enticing implies, and how they justified sometimes “crossing the line” because of that. I think they just couldn’t articulate what they wanted to, and I’m reading too much into it.

Dogs are pack hunters in nature (India have them natively in the wild), so it’s natural for dogs to follow their instincts.
They will not attack members of their pack normally, reason why they don’t attack owners or those who feed them.
Pitbulls, Rottweilers, etc. even attack family members, there were several infamous brutal cases from India in last few years. Moreover, depending on breeds dogs need lot of open space which urban areas lack. It’s animal cruelty to own active dogs in such places.
A child running away from an unrestrained dog is not enticing rather a desperate attempt of self protection, the dog is following it’s hunter instinct, it’s owner should be liable for injustice.

In the original case video, that dog owner is instigating the dog to attack that child. Child is behaving naturally in fear. No man with humane mind and commonsense should be taking sides there. Owner is misusing the dog to attack a human child and should be charged accordingly without question.

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Human aspect of enticing means hitting the dog unnecessarily or enticing it with food likewise.
Crossing the line means if you try to entice it with food but does give food or try to take the food that it’s eating it will bite you.
We see in videos when there are more than one dog is eating from one plate they try to snarl at other dogs. This is both enticing but not giving and crossing the line if the dogs plate is taken away abruptly.

Yes this is sadism at its peak and the owner should be held liable for any damages borne out of such action and with punishment also.

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