Everyone is going on different tangents here.
the discussion in question is about 2 citizens arrested by police in a congress governed state for stating their views (taking a dig at Bal thackerey and his supporters) under sections of the law that are so similar to blasphemy laws of pakistan. but this thread has turned into a shivsena bashing thread. I'm sure if you were in mumbai (1) as a sikh during the 1984 pogrom, or (2) during the 92'~, or (3) were a kashmiri pandit taking refuge in mumbai, or so many other instances that I cannot enumerate, definitely you wouldn't be only having debilitating views on shivsena as peddled by the anti-hindu congress-outpost media houses of which NDTV leads the pack. I'm surprised how police don't get condemned, the home minister of the state doesn't get any flak, the CM too is unquestioned but it is all shivsena's fault that the arrest happened. I dont see such manufactured outrages in TV studios or threads like this being created for the following news reports:
Twitter: Outcry over man's arrest for tweets against Chidambaram's son - Times Of India
Gurgaon techie held for posting derogatory messages against Sonia Gandhi on Orkut - Express India
#sei
I feel bad for what you had to go through. but this is the common mistake. it is not just some random bloke who died but a popular political leader
Clipping of Ahmedabad, 19 November, 2012 DigitalEdition https://twitter.com/KiranKS/status/270524651493531650/photo/1 . the news of his bad health were doing rounds for the past week. one can anticipate what will happen if he dies. for example, I'm no fan of Karunanidhi but we do take precautions if any news of his health concerns comes out.... he is a popular political leader and the city will definitely be paralysed if something untoward happens. it is just like preparing for some natural calamity. this is how society works. if one want to mould the society over individual wants/perceptions, ironically, one has to become like 'them'.
#sunny27
did you drink a glass of bile or what
and yeah that your friends couldn't anticipate such situations like a popular political leader's death is also complete fault of these scumbags... lakhs and lakhs of them. to put in perspective a dozen and probably more farmers were shot, yes shot by real bullets, in police firing near thane before diwali in a protest as they are not able to get essentials throughout the year.
and boy is it so easy to be hitler these days, guess standards have become too low :| all bal thackerey said was that he admired hitler as a strategist and an artist while definitely hated him for his ways and what he did to the jews.
shivsena, bal thackarey and the likes will always surface if political systems and laws become impotent. nothing is going to happen by criticising all these organisations. living in one's individual comfort cocoons and pointing fingers at these street warriors only shows how much self-righteous we are on our own delusions. the core of India is much different than what techies like us perceive or want it to be. it is so easy to pontificate/criticize by a FB update, tweet or a forum post but I'm sure none will actually contribute much for law reforms, police reforms or electoral reforms or such. our political discussions have been reduced to daily jumping from outrage to outrage just like what the TRP hungry TV studios want.
Well, at the very least, they are reflection of what more than 90% of the common men in our country would be like given the same opportunities. Humans are by nature greedy and self centered and majority of our country men are even more so than anybody else. Every corrupt politician is just a reflection of what a typical common man of our country would be like given the same opportunity that they have.
NO. this is the most common alibi of all crooks 'everyone is like that'. by extending that line of argument logically, let's do nothing about rapists as everyone who gets to an advantageous situation with a defenceless young girl would rape her. see how sweeping that accusation is. illegal 'actions' should be punished and that others may/maynot have similar intentions in their 'thoughts' is no argument for slack. what is this? thought police?
Wrong my friend !-even though bailed out just now- they will spend the next five years- fighting the cases which have been slapped on them. No judge worth his salt will acquit them just because false cases have been imposed by police ( Now judges- who mostly are sarkari nominees always agree with what is presented to them ( right or wrong !) on platter by the police & the police prosecutors). It will be peshi par peshi par peshi for these poor creatures, who only very rightly had made relevant -truthful comments. I really fear for so called Indian democracy!.
No. this has generated enough discussions everywhere. case will get dismissed soon has similar precedences of misuse of those particular sections also. even shivsena spokesperson said they didnt give any complaint (and their sainiks were not involve in ransacking the girl's uncle's clinic), that it was done by someone in their individual capacity and wanted that person to withdraw the case.
_
