3 Budget IEMs: A noob comparo!

3 Budget IEMs:A noob comparo

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Dichkaoon! Xears Bullets

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Hifiman RE2

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Soundmagic PL30

Tips used:

Bullets- Medium single flange silicone tips(bundled)

Interesting point to note is that, for me, because of the short nozzle of the Bullets, biflanges just wouldn’t work, as they kill the bass.

Re2- Medium double flanges(bundled)

Pl30-Medium double flanges from Me elec
Isolation:

I found the isolation to be best on the Re2, followed by the xb120 with the PL30 bringing up the rear.

Fit and Comfort:

Re2,Pl30 , xb120 are all quite comfortable to wear and light enough imo. Of these, the Bullets housing protrude quite a bit because of their shape and short nozzle. However for comfort, they are fine, unless you plan to sleep listening to these iems. Re2 offer good comfort, no issues. The Pl30 is also good but fit is not as good, and the protrusion on the iems do cause problems sometimes.

Note: the xb120 does the puchk sound when one inserts it, as esanthosh edified me recently, it is referred to as driver flex!

Build quality:

The Bullet looks well built, but time will tell how it actually fares. The housing as well as the cable (J cord btw) are solid. The Re2 looks slightly flimsy. The Pl30 doesn’t look well finished or solid but I know from personal experience that they can go through a nuclear holocaust and still survive.
In short what are they like:



Xears xb120: Small soundstage, good imaging, decent bass response, thick slightly warm upper bass and mids, average treble response. These will do decent duty for most kinds of music including the hip hop and electronica you throw at it.

Hifiman RE2:Good soundstage, Bass light( slight improvement with Double flange tips), detailed mids with good texture, good treble. My personal favourite of the lot. If this one had better bass, I could have easily lived with this IEM for all my music needs( for the time being!).

Soundmagic PL30: Wide soundstage, bass light, smooth mids and non fatiguing treble, but lacking finer detail of RE2 or low end extension of Xb120. I have been using them for long, and though they may not look the part, they can take a whole lot of abuse.

And for the people who are ready to brave my detailed impressions with the tracks I used, here goes.
I have followed a-b-c-a comparison for these songs. Setup used was Foobar on laptop-Nuforce dac at 10 o clock except for the last four songs which were played on Sansa Clip Plus. All songs were in lossless wav or flac format.
Fields of Gold-Eva Cassidy

The soundstage of Xears is noticeably smaller, with forward vocals. Re2 widens soundstage, with more natural yet musical vocals. There is also better detail in strings and vocals. With the same track the PL30 sounded slightly laid back, good vocals and smooth treble but lacking that bit of needed sparkle and detail in strings. Xears shows solid imaging and most sibilance of the lot.
Khwab Jo- Sankar Mahadevan, Rahat Fateh Ali Khan

Xears: Engaging vocals, good positioning of various elements hampered by a small soundstage.Re2 male vocals less powerful, slight lack of warmth, LF rumble present with xb120 but absent with re2.good spatiality. PL30 shows a wider soundstage, but with less depth. Coming back to Xears, vocal echo clearer, and the cymbal at 40sec position is clear with body, bass rumble is the best of the lot.
Saraswati-U.Rajesh

Xears: good speed, background string weight lacking, texture ok. Mandolin slightly thin/brittle.

Re2: Mandolin has better tone, string weight nil, slight lack of speed.

Pl30: Better string texture but lack weight, speed less, mandolin has good tone but notes get coagulated on fast sections.

String notes are definitely more agile with xb120. They have good tone but lack of decay makes it sound less so.
Devdas theme-Devdas OST

Now those who have heard this track will know that it’s a track with a lot of different sounds thrown in, resulting in some loud and complex sections. Finally, there is the sound of Devdas’s bottle rolling across the floor from right to left and coming to a rest.

Xears: good detail, lows impact well, good imaging of bottle.

Re2, beautiful ringing of bells, however thunder less impact and so does the whip less. Gradations of arrow vibrating are better, imaging of bottle is ok.
Pl30: tabla roll gradation not clear, build up lost, whip as not good as Xears. Arrow less clear. But imaging of bottle is good.
Dhan Dhan Dharti-Sonu Nigam( Rajneeti OST):

The bass rumble is evident with the Xears, but Sonu Nigam's voice is not powerful enough, there is a muddiness in the underlying bass.

Even with Re2, the male voice again is not powerful enough while the bass does a Houdini!

Pl30 shows a bit more bass, not low enough but clean, vocals ok.

Xears shows slight forward vocals.
Gambara-Arco Luz

The Bullets present a small soundstage, guitar and violin sound too close/crowded. String weight good but not there yet. Coming toRe2, violin has better attack, strings sound good, slightly better space, but for string weight and low note of electric guitar, look elsewhere.Pl30 has better separation but with less speed with strings and again lack string weight. The sound of guitar strings squeaking is equal on all three IEMs.
Time out-Dave Brubeck

Xears presents a decent soundstage, the saxophone sounds warm. Switch over to the RE2s,and the rough edges of the sax notes are more lucid, the attack of the drums is very good at 2:40. String plucking not clear. The Pl 30 has clear bass notes but with less lucid sax and guitar sounds and an average drum attack.

Xb120 underlying bass comes into play, quite smooth. However the sax has less texture.


Sorcerer-Michael Shreive
Re2 excellent detail, gradient, dynamics, less bass on drums.

PL better bass, sometimes booms, better air around instruments tapping/roll at 2:00 not as clear as Re2.

Xears sounds slightly veiled, less detailed, more bass but at the expense of the detail.
Mars the bringer of war-Gustav Holst

Here the better soundstage of the RE2 and the overall better dynamics help it steal a march over the Xears Bullet which resolves the various instruments but they pretty much tread on each others feat and plod a bit through the complex parts. The Pl30 too does a commendable job with its roomy soundstage and acceptable dynamics.

Pricing

Xears xb120: 19.90 Euro+ shipping( however they can be had for cheaper, as the website list price keeps fluctuating!), not directly available in India.

Hifiman RE2: Indian list price-INR 1800, Amazon- 30$

Soundmagic PL30: INR 1000, Intl pricing- $22-30.

So,it is safe to assume these IEMs are Rs 1000 IEMs except the RE2 which is pricier. However, I got mine from Amarbir as part of the open box deal for 1200, so its similar to US pricing.

Parting comments:

If I seem to convey that RE2 impressed me more in the comparo, it's because of the dynamics and textured mids than anything else. The Xears brought a smile for its overall decent handling of the spectrum, though less dynamic and textured. As for the PL30 I have been married for a while to this one, so 'nuff said.
 
A nice review to read. Different in style with more comparisons than descriptive text of the signature. It's also a different approach to evaluating IEMs from mine.

Only a few questions (asking which is always easy :P):

  • Why do you say XB120 has average treble compared to RE2? Anything that comes to mind or stands out?
  • In terms of engaging, as in if you choose an IEM for just listening to music (not critically), which one would you reach out for?
  • How do you find separation in the three?
 
A perfect review ! Good work . :) This should inspire a lot others to post some impressions and reviews in future. Hope to see some more comparisons from you .
 
anubhav,esanthosh, edge111hussain, faheem, Krishnandu, Thanks for the appreciation.

esanthosh,

I have done this is a comparo/comparison w.r.t to each other, as I have very little high end IEM/ reference level exposure.

As for your questions, I will try to answer them as I can from memory*.

1. I guess I say that xb120 has average treble because when I switch to RE2 I hear more hf detail, with cymbals, bells etc being more prominent.

2. For non critical listening, esp if I am outdoor, I would use PL30, as it is rugged and non fatiguing. Again for non critical use, esp if I have to listen to bollywood, hip hop etc, I would use the Xears xb120.

3. Separation, iirc, is good in all three, but the Xears is disadvantaged because of the small soundstage, where, though the performers/instruments are distinct, they seem to be a bit crammed together.

EDIT:

Sumatrix, thank you. I have added the pricing too, to the best of my knowledge.
 
Excellent review! I really love my RE2 for female vocals, started using these again and it's difficult to put these off. Nice to see that you too are liking it.
 
iaudio said:
I guess I say that xb120 has average treble because when I switch to RE2 I hear more hf detail, with cymbals, bells etc being more prominent

Then, it must be my HF rolled off ears or the tips.

When using RE2 with bi-flanges, I hear some bass, though it lacks the body. The mids are sweet though. But on HF (cymbals), I don't find a huge difference between XB120 and RE2. What I can say is RE2 has a thinner treble, which is slightly recessed in comparison to the mids; whereas with XB120, the cymbals are more thick, but also due to the smaller size of the stage are much more intimate than the RE2's. With thicker notes usually the speed suffers and hence XB120 may not be as detailed as the relatively nimble RE2.

To put XB120 in proper perspective, it's not my favorite Xears. I actually consider their TD100-II worth the price. Even with their heavier, at times very excessive bass quantity, I prefer XT120 a bit more due to the increase in the sound stage. I'd consider XB120, a good entry level IEM, which can be liked by many. I like it a bit better than (un-EQed) RE2 because it does more with the lows. I'd pick the EQ-ed and amped RE2 over it though! Both are nice picks in their price range.

I initially thought that RE2 was rolled off at both ends, but trying them again yesterday, I don't see them rolled off in the highs as much as I imagined. I posted my thoughts on RE2 here : http://www.techenclave.com/audio-zone/suggest-an-upgrade-to-headdirect-re2-181040.html#post1682856, which I'll quote here to save people a click.

Do try it with E5, because it would do well with a little bit of amplification. It gets a tad better all around.

RE2 is a good IEM at that price point. The only issue with RE2 is a roll-off at the lows. It's extremely quiet in the bass area. Even with E5, the bass does not attain any body. With S9 -> E5, I needed to boost the first two bands to gain any amount of body (and this is with E5's bass boost on). The highs are not rolled off, but sound thinner next to the good mids. When it's A/B-ed against some treble happy IEMs like MEE M6, it's de-emphasis is showing through.

My current setup for S9's custom EQ is (For the first band, +4 is with E5's Bass boost on, +8-10 could get the same quantity with E5's bass boost off, but I liked it more with E5's bass boost on)

80Hz Wide +4/+8

300Hz Wide +2

1.4Khz Wide 0

3.0Khz Wide 0

11.7Khz Wide +6


.... I actually prefer it to RE1 (sorry BF1983 :P) - both un-EQed and more so after proper EQ.
(Highlighted to grab his attention :P Just kidding! Still RE1 stays in Tier-II, while RE2 is in Tier-IV/III depending on how I fix the reference for Tier-III later on)

And no! Xears has NO concept of fixed prices - more like a small cap stock in a stock market. You can see an IEM sell for 90 Euros one day and 20 or even 15 Euros a couple of weeks later.

As for PL-30, it's an inoffensive, smooth sounding, clear IEM with a nice sound stage. I like it in a way, but would still rank them below both XB120 and RE2. It's a very good IEM at that price point, but tends to get boring for me as I am more about excitement these days :ashamed:
 
^^ Grrr, good thing you corrected your statement about my precious RE1s. :P

On the bad side, the RE262s are grabbing all my attention nowadays. :(

@iaudio - Great review ! Now add the Thunderpants to the mix and see how they compare !
 
^ Actually, it's easy to see why I prefer RE2 to RE1 as they are easily enjoyable as-is, more so when EQ-ed. But even with all the drawbacks, it'd not be right to place RE2 on par with RE1. With time, I hope you like the RE262s more (not because I want you to dislike RE1 :P, but) because they should be that much better from what I've read.

@iaudio,

I'll anyway do another A-B between RE2 and XB120 today evening. You may actually be right about the bells. I am more concerned about a decent frequency response across the spectrum, style of presentation, engagement, imaging, speed, separation more. But due to your preferences, I think you also focus more on timbre, tonality, natural presentation of instruments/vocals more. I'll "steal" (or get inspired by :P) some of your comparisons and try to incorporate them into my own tests as long as I can fix a good reference for them ("Saraswathi" & "Fields of Gold" are already regular test tracks for me).
 
jerry,kooldude Thanks guys!

esanthosh, Speed and imaging are something which is high on my list too along with soundstage and separation, especially as I have been a hifi/speaker set kinda guy in recent times more than head fi.
 
^ As a reference for 'correctness', do you use your current speaker setup? Or any others you have auditioned in the past?

PS: Did you get enough time with the TPs?
 
esanthosh said:
^ As a reference for 'correctness', do you use your current speaker setup? Or any others you have auditioned in the past?

PS: Did you get enough time with the TPs?
esanthosh, As a reference for soundstage, I was referring to speaker set ups in general,( mine included as well as the better ones that I have heard using the same tracks) which do manage to convey the sense of separation, spatiality etc truer to life size. With most headphones, however good they are, its either in your head or around it!:)
Flame shield on! :bleh:
But for sheer vfm, price to performance ratio, speed, resolution etc, one can obtain all this at 1/10th the price in the headphone/iem world compared to speaker set ups.

P.s got home and setting up the TPs for a good, post dinner session!
 
Flame Thrower ON :@

That is why I leave the real life reproduction and the feeling of "being there" to speakers. With IEMs, I really am not worried too much about accuracy. However accurate the portrayal of the stage, the vocalist still sits / stands on the center of your head and guitarist in your right ear.

The correct way to see IEMs (for me) is this: Consider the recording as composer's notes. Consider each IEM as an (often crazy) conductor who sees it his own way, not only interprets the music, but also adds a bit here, subtracts a bit there. Top-tier IEMs are more sane conductors of the same piece. If you spend the cost of a great interconnect in a speaker system, you get a different take on the sound. I've heard some of them - forward mids, very forward mids, rolled off bass, muddy bass, too much bass, rolled off treble, aggressive forward treble, thick treble, wide sound stage, deep but not wide sound stage, a very open headphone like sound stage etc.,. If I had to get all these in a speaker system, I can do it. But it will be very costly, take ages, occupies space and system synergy is a royal pain in the a$$. That is why I prefer IEMs ;)
 
Damn! You have a way with words, I like the conductor-iem analogy! Time to think of an alternate career Santhosh?

I have mentioned the same thing in my previous post, head fi is a much more effective way to audio nirvana. Less expense, more freedom to try various flavors and less hassle with finding components with good synergy. Only catch is you have to accept the head stage thing rather than sound stage!

Been listening to the Thunderpants, will post up about it soon :P
 
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