Graphic Cards 4850 @ Full HD 1920 x 1080

[satyanjoy]

At full HD, a HD4850 should let you play most games at high, though in others u might have to tweak it down a little. But with crysis 2 on the way, it might not take the hit.

Get a HD monitor dude, then think of upgrading the card etc. For the first few months u will just be stuck with HD movies and stuff.

Once Crysis 2 and other wave of games are out, maybe then you can buy the best card possible for your budget. But before upgrading the GPU, its the CPU that matters a lot.

You seriously need to overclock the E5200 to get a lot of performance boost. I remember running it at ~3.6 and it makes the HD4850 bloom in its real glory. Maybe you will leave your idea of upgrading the card once you overclock. Give it a try

how much i can get safely with my stock cpu cooler?

 

[comp@ddict]

^^ 3Ghz is cake

3.4Ghz is doable, but seriously 3GHz would be enough for the HD4850.

 

[satyanjoy]

^^ 3Ghz is cake

3.4Ghz is doable, but seriously 3GHz would be enough for the HD4850.

Will try this weekend.Should I OC when it needed ( i mean before playing games )or I need to keep it running @ OC speed all the time ?

 

[comp@ddict]

^^ OC when needed. No point in 24x7

 

[Arun1]

1440-900 med-high and 40+ fps, I think

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btw, with your CPU a 4850 or GTX 580 will both give you similarly bad performance in many of today's games because you simply won't get the power needed by your cpu.

Anything less than a Core i5 750 isn't good enough for my gaming at least, imo

Not really.The 4850/70/90 were great cards which OC'd like crazy over the stock.The only issue was they'd heat up really bad.Replace the stock cooler or get a newer gen one with a better cooler.He has a 5200 which is better than the 4300 which I had and I played all games on 1080p with settings maxed out no problems,Crysis of course being the exception.Then there were games like batman:AA which were heavily biased towards nvidia which won't work so well.Had some trouble with stalker on some parts but was smooth on most parts.On my old setup I believe Dead Space and Bioshock 2 were the last games I played and they worked flawlessly.

Now with my system upgrade I think I'll be able to tame Crysis at max settings too.The card itself is pretty good.I don't think I'll feel the need the need to upgrade until Crysis 2.

 

[satyanjoy]

^^ OC when needed. No point in 24x7

oki..So for the first time I need to OC using the incremental method-testing and so on and once i get the sweet spot, later on i can directly tune to that setting from bios, right

Not really.The 4850/70/90 were great cards which OC'd like crazy over the stock.The only issue was they'd heat up really bad.Replace the stock cooler or get a newer gen one with a better cooler.He has a 5200 which is better than the 4300 which I had and I played all games on 1080p with settings maxed out no problems,Crysis of course being the exception.Then there were games like batman:AA which were heavily biased towards nvidia which won't work so well.Had some trouble with stalker on some parts but was smooth on most parts.On my old setup I believe Dead Space and Bioshock 2 were the last games I played and they worked flawlessly.

Now with my system upgrade I think I'll be able to tame Crysis at max settings too.The card itself is pretty good.I don't think I'll feel the need the need to upgrade until Crysis 2.

so if I OCed my proccy and GPU i can easily play in 1080p ,right ??

 

[joel.monty]

My friend had the 4850 and a dual core 6000+,games used to work very lagg especially games that depend on cpu,like GTA 4,Mafia 2,NFS Hot Pursuit,etc and most all newer games utilize the multi cores,and he upgraded to a quad i think Athlon 630 x4,now most of the games work better playable 40 fps above@1080p.

 

[asingh]

No matter what you do, that CPU plus GPU combination is not going to get you anywhere on 1080pi. Only if you hit >= 3.6 will you notice a difference in performance, but still not enough to render smooth on full HD. Which you cannot on stock cooling cause you would be pushing in a ton of vCore juice.

Which motherboard you have..?

 

[hash]

Most mediocre game work at Full HD . I used my XFX 4850 n Athlon x3 435 . Games that lagged were Mafia II , GTA 4 (Doesnt even run at full hd) , Crysis of course, Splinter Cell Conviction ....So games in this league defenitely wont be smooth at all!! I sold my 4850 n got a 6850

 

[Arun1]

oki..So for the first time I need to OC using the incremental method-testing and so on and once i get the sweet spot, later on i can directly tune to that setting from bios, right
so if I OCed my proccy and GPU i can easily play in 1080p ,right ??

My proccy was OCed to 2.5Ghz so if you could do 3Ghz your pretty safe.My GPU stock 625/933 would be OCed to 740/1150 every-time I played so you should try OCing your GPU too.

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Most mediocre game work at Full HD . I used my XFX 4850 n Athlon x3 435 . Games that lagged were Mafia II , GTA 4 (Doesnt even run at full hd) , Crysis of course, Splinter Cell Conviction ....So games in this league defenitely wont be smooth at all!! I sold my 4850 n got a 6850

Dude are you seriously running the 6850 on the 400Watter :-o

 

[comp@ddict]

oki..So for the first time I need to OC using the incremental method-testing and so on and once i get the sweet spot, later on i can directly tune to that setting from bios, right

so if I OCed my proccy and GPU i can easily play in 1080p ,right ??

Once you know the settings, then it's not gonna be an issue. And for minor OC like upto 3GHz you can keep it 24x7 as it wont make much of a difference(it clocks to 3GHz under load i.e. gaming or heavy applications only)

Keep the memory speed in sight, as it shouldnt go too high for value ram or so(880Mhz limit, I would say drop the memory multiplier by 1)

increase FSB straight by 10 denominations. Fire up a game and check for improved fps and stability(crysis). No point doing furmark really. You're set!!!

And no, just OCing wont make it playable on 1080p. Choose the correct combination of settings.

Like some games dont need AA, others dont need high shadows(dead space 2 for instance would be bad w/o shadows, but COD Black Ops wont make a difference with low or high shadows)

Shadows impact performance a lot. And AA too(you wont see visible image quality improvement with AA unless you stick ur face on the monitor with a microscope, cuz while playing the game, you rarely tend to notice).

 

[devvfata1ity]

let me give it to u straight....apart from a few UE3 games u wont be able play any games wid ur current set up at full HD res...for 90 % games u will have to turn down d details to medium or lower

 

[comp@ddict]

^^ no

he can run all of those games using the dx9 render path with satisfactory frames per second(although forget about aa)

 

[asingh]

^^

Why..?

Though Dx11 offers only Tessellation, but Dx10 affects are worth it. So the OP should think wisely what he wants to do, and not curb his gaming experience using Dx9.

By the way where the heck is he.

 

[comp@ddict]

^^ DX10 = make already good looking games look good, and make playable games unplayable.. Hope I'm clear.

 

[asingh]

^^

No you are not clear. Elaborate, else shut up with your nuisance in this thread. The world is playing on minimal Dx10 and buying accelerators for Dx11 and you are recommending Dx9 game play with what not idiotic OC suggestions. See his PSU, you know the OPs motherboard...? How can you say 3 Ghz will suffice and not hold back his HD4850 for full HD. HD4850 cannot do full HD not matter what -- and enable smooth gaming.

The HD4850 on full HD will do two things. Jack and squat.

 

[comp@ddict]

Elaborate, else shut up with your nuisance in this thread.

EDIT:

I wont be rude, or speak like an uncivilized person.

What i meant is graphics cards like HD4850/GTS450 are not able to play DX10/DX11 games because they do not have enough horsepower.

Moreover, switching from DX9 to DX10 puts a huge tax on the GPU(read unoptimized code for DX10 courtesy MS) and makes even a playable game unplayable(biggest tribute = Crysis).

Further more, for gaming at FULL HD, you don't need 60-100 fps, what is required is a sensible choice of settings and a frame rate average around 40-45(minimum 20-25) to play a game smoothly.

The world is playing on minimal Dx10 and buying accelerators for Dx11 and you are recommending Dx9 game play

And more to say, everyone doesn't have a 2x HD4890 in CFx or a GTX570 or equivalent GPU as we are not all soo rich or born with a silver spoon. So in case you are unaware of the lower GPU's capabilities(both in high end gaming, and smartly chosen settings combination performance) then please do not make non-sensical posts attacking someone who's sincerely trying to help.

Jack and squat.

- did i mention rude?

No you are not clear. Elaborate, else shut up

- u didn't give me the chance to....

It's like saying, "Give the exam properly, answer in full length." In 1 second second you say, "Time's up and you're a loser, stop writing."

Though Dx11 offers only Tessellation

- excuse me?

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Regarding my OC recommendations, yes OP I'm really sorry. Could you mention your motherboard model and PSU please? I could help you out better and more accurately then.

 

[asingh]

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I am not sure where you are pulling it from -- that Dx10 is unoptimized. It requires more powerful resources vs. Dx9 that is about it. Do not know about you, but everyone who has a Dx10 GPU tries his/her best to play using the Dx10 codepath.

Regarding the availability of CrossfireX 4890s or any other powerful GPU how the hell does that equate to someone being rich or being born rich. How lame. I am aware of the HD4850s capabilities and suggested what I did, and found your suggestions off the moon..! If you had read the OPs signature: he has a CX400. Am sure you are aware of that PSUs history and and stamina it has to power an LGA775 OC'ed+HD4850.

If and only IF he goes the OC way, he would need a better PSU, better cooling for the CPU -- that is if his motherboard permits it. Those chips easily hit an FSB wall and it is pointless. He needs to get it at or beyond 3.6Ghz minimal.

 

[Aces170]

The HD4850 on full HD will do two things. Jack and squat.

This thread is so full of crap. People are just posting some random details.

I have an X2 4000+ with HD4850 1gb, I am able to play all games at full HD at medium to high details. The last game I played Dead space 2 worked without a glitch at settings nearly high. And nope my CPU is at stock too.. games are not so hardware locked like previously.

Ofcourse it wont play at everything high, you need to tweak settings in the games, but I have not yet to compromise on IQ on any games till now.

 

[asingh]

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Ok. Sure. The OP can of course try it out once he gets a full HD display. Post that he can decide what needs to be upgraded.

Interesting, if you get time could you let me know what FRAPS shows for Dx10. Thanks.