Graphic Cards 9800GT (Green Edition) on 400Watt VIP Gold SMPS

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shravank30

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Hi

Can i run a 9800GT 512 MB Green Edition on my existing 400Watt VIP Gold SMPS with a AMD X2 4400 CPU with Gigabyte motherboard.
The card does not require external power connector so i can safely assume that it does not require more then 75Watts of power.
Hence my SMPS should be sufficient.
Am I correct ?

Please also advise whether it is better then a 4670 1GB in playing games

Thanks for giving your time.
 
The 98GT should be atleast 20-25% faster than the 4670(don't take my word on that though, check a few reviews).

I wouldn't risk the 98GT on that PSU. Ideal would be to get yourself a decent+cheap psu like the
FSP Saga II 400W/Gigabyte Superb 460W/Seasonic S12II 380W
^^^^2k^^^^^^^^^^^2.4k^^^^^^^^^^^^3k^^^^^^
 
@shravank30, I have the same processor, VIP Gold 500W, and a 4850 GPU. The whole setup is working fine. No BSOD's or any problem. Runs damn cool, and no noise. I would say go ahead, buy it.
 
that psu is able to take 9600GT normal edition along with E5200 OCed to 3.5GHz and 2HDDs.

i see no reason why it cant handle a 9800GT green one, which is supposed to be lighter than normal 9600GT imo.
 
I think ur SMPS will do, just dont OC ur CPU please

although i suggest buying a GT240 512MB GDDR5 @ 5.6k instead.
 
I wouldn't try running a 9600GT or anything above on a VIP/Powersafe 400W.

The L&C oem powersafe 400W gold wasn't a bad psu in it's time for the price one paid but ain't that good either.

Plus the older it gets, the worse it may be, depending from user to user.

Which one do you have- singe rail or dual rail?

20-pin main ATX connector ot 24-pin?

There were different variants in powersafe 400W too.

madnav said:
that psu is able to take 9600GT normal edition along with E5200 OCed to 3.5GHz and 2HDDs.

i see no reason why it cant handle a 9800GT green one, which is supposed to be lighter than normal 9600GT imo.
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That is pretty suicidal imho. :)

It's usually such specimens that keep complaing of failing HDDs, dying RAM/GPU and blame the peripherals/brands instead.

There is a difference between could run and will run safely. :)
 
BIKeINSTEIN said:
I wouldn't try running a 9600GT or anything above on a VIP/Powersafe 400W.
The L&C oem powersafe 400W gold wasn't a bad psu in it's time for the price one paid but ain't that good either.
Plus the older it gets, the worse it may be, depending from user to user.

Which one do you have- singe rail or dual rail?
20-pin main ATX connector ot 24-pin?
There were different variants in powersafe 400W too.

That is pretty suicidal imho. :)
It's usually such specimens that keep complaing of failing HDDs, dying RAM/GPU and blame the peripherals/brands instead.
There is a difference between could run and will run safely. :)
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it was the 500W gold..
i just checked the bill :ashamed:
 
Aces170 said:
I wouldnt risk it, I nearly lost a ATI 9800pro on it (which is 5 yrs old)
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My SMPS is 2 years old & has 2 12V rails 15 Amps & 14Amps

I have no idea about 20 pin or 24 pin

In many posts it has been mentioned that this SMPS can safely handle a 4670 Card which requires 60-65W power.

I will not overclock the GPU or CPU

AM I wrong ? Can this SMPS not handle the 4670 easily ?

The 9800Pro I think requires an external power connector so it cannot be compared to the green edition which does not require an external power connector.

Of course to bring down the power consumption, the manufacturer has sacrificed the speed etc. & brought it to nearly at par with a 4670 performance
 
^^it will. even OP's 9800gt green wud run fine.

The pcie slot provides max 150w theoretically. so for 150w amps needed on 12v rail is 12.5A. The 400w gold smps has 2 dual rail afaik i had one 14A and 15A wer rating. it handled 7950gt easily with a 6pin connector but cudnt handle a 7800gtx 512mb(restarted during gaming sessions or shutdown). that one worked fine with 500w gold vip.

Rest of config was x2 3800+, 2gb ram, a8n-e, 1 sata hdd, 2 fans.
 
WingZero said:
^^it will. even OP's 9800gt green wud run fine.

The pcie slot provides max 150w theoretically. so for 150w amps needed on 12v rail is 12.5A. The 400w gold smps has 2 dual rail afaik i had one 14A and 15A wer rating. it handled 7950gt easily with a 6pin connector but cudnt handle a 7800gtx 512mb(restarted during gaming sessions or shutdown). that one worked fine with 500w gold vip.

Rest of config was x2 3800+, 2gb ram, a8n-e, 1 sata hdd, 2 fans.
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err.. 75W maximum..

I too wouldn't risk it..:)
 
muzux2 said:
err.. 75W maximum..

I too wouldn't risk it..:)
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I know that thats y i mentioned theoretically:). pcie 2.0 has been rated for 150w from the slot due the mobo manu's

PCI-SIG - FAQ - PCI Express 2.0

Well i can assure that the same psu ran my config smooth for months. 7950gt uses a 6pin connector too. I dont see it y it wud be a risk.

If its 75w that gpu can actually take from the slot then 75w/12 = 6.25A on 12v rail. Now i dont see how can the psu rated at 14A and 15A on dual rails cant feed 6.25A to the gpu.

Heck even most of the green edition 9800gt are underclocked that regular ones.

geforce 9800 gt green edition pcb

according to the link it needs 59w.

I dont see y its risky. Pls enlighten those who think its risky.
 
WingZero said:
I know that thats y i mentioned theoretically:). pcie 2.0 has been rated for 150w from the slot due the mobo manu's
PCI-SIG - FAQ - PCI Express 2.0
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It shows 6pin -> 8pin adjustment and not for the slot. The wording in the link is confusing..

existing 75 W and 150 W versions of 6pin & 8pin plug

slot = 75 W
slot + 2x3pin = 75 W + 75 W = 150 W

For the new 225 W and 300 W versions(from link)

slot + 2x4pin = 75 W + 150 W = 225 W
slot + 2x3pin + 2x4pin = 75 W + 75 W + 150 W = 300 W

So, from Slot its still maximum 75W irrespective of theoritical/practical..:P

Well i can assure that the same psu ran my config smooth for months. 7950gt uses a 6pin connector too. I dont see it y it wud be a risk.

If its 75w that gpu can actually take from the slot then 75w/12 = 6.25A on 12v rail. Now i dont see how can the psu rated at 14A and 15A on dual rails cant feed 6.25A to the gpu.

Heck even most of the green edition 9800gt are underclocked that regular ones.

geforce 9800 gt green edition pcb

according to the link it needs 59w.

I dont see y its risky. Pls enlighten those who think its risky.
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The brand VIP and we even don't how good is it at efficiency..:)
 
muzux2 said:
The brand VIP and we even don't how good is it at efficiency..:)
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hmm. okay. but wts efficiency gotta do with a the gpu will work smooth or not. Isnt it that if efficiency is low then it ll just suck more ac power and deliver less dc. m i missing something here?..or u meant ripples, voltage fluctuations etc are more
 
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