access denied for workgroup

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SpitefulPentium

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I recently formatted both of my PCs (installed too much crap over the last 6 months or so). Reinstalled everything from ground zero.

I am now facing a wierd (but most irritating) problem. here it is;
PC A: NIC1 connected to Sify
NIC 2 (192.168.0.1) connected to PC B using crossover cable.
PC B: NIC 1 (192.168.0.3) connect to PC A

What I can do:
* ping the other PC from either PC (using ip as well as computer name)
* connect to the other PC using Remote Desktop connection from either PC
* share folders and access them but using the shared folder names ONLY
* share internet with good browsing speeds

What I cannot do:
* see the two PC in my workgroup. when I click on the workgroup I get an
error "You might not have permissions to use this network resource. access
is denied. Work station list cannot be generated (something of the sort)"
* send "net send" messages from either pc.

solution in a similar post by Aces did not help. I searched on this forum as well as others but could not find the solution.
firewalls on both PCs are disabled (ZA does not start after reboot and no ZLclient process is running). I have the same set of users/passwords on both
PCs with equal priviledges. tried the "restrictanonymous=0" setting in
registry but did not work. Windows Firewall service is disabled.

Observation:
* PC B could see itself in the workgroup before installing ZA. after installing
ZA PC B also cannot access the workgroup like PC A
* in RDC the speed is extremely slow. there is a lag in every action I do on the other PC.

now what am i missing here?

PS: must thank chaos for pointing out "the single sided RAM issue" on ASUS K8N-E deluxe boards. got the RAM stick changed and now the speed is 400 again. yippee. didn't want to bump the previous thread.
 
Just make sure the "permissions" set for the shared folders are appropriate.Most of the times its this simple things which cause problem.
Is NetBIOS over TCP/IP enabled under the TCP/IP properties? If not then enable & look under network places if they show up.
 
permissions for the required user groups are there for the shared folder. NetBIOS is enabled too.

shouldn;t the computers atleast be visible in the workgroup even if there are no shared folders? also I can search for a computer and get the result in the search window, then can access it. its just that I cannot get access to the workgroup from network places.

????
 
PS: must thank chaos for pointing out "the single sided RAM issue"
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Ugghh!!! I pointed it out first! I posted that chart!

http://www.techenclave.com/forums/timing-mismatch-betn-two-sticks-512mb-6351.html

My heart is broken, and I am going to hide my face, never to return from exile.....

Just kidding:ohyeah::ohyeah::ohyeah:

As for your workgroup problem, are u sure that both of them belong to the same workgroup? And also, switch on ZoneAlarm, and then put both computers in each other's trusted zone.

Check task manager, did u look for truevector (vsmon.exe)?

truevector is a ZA service, and even if ZA is ot running, this service sometimes runs, and it will block some things..
 
for net send start the windows messenger service (not recommended)
check the status of messenger service using command:
sc query messenger
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for workgroup problem I sense ZA is culprit. Do as suggested by kingkrool trusted zones with medium security level

show me the redirected output of this command(upload service.txt):
sc query state= all > C:\service.txt
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check the "nbtstat -a <ip number of B>" command to see if netbios can resolve ip to name

Regards.
 
KingKrool said:
Ugghh!!! I pointed it out first! I posted that chart!
http://www.techenclave.com/forums/timing-mismatch-betn-two-sticks-512mb-6351.html
My heart is broken, and I am going to hide my face, never to return from exile.....
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Oops! my bad. yes it was you. thanks buddy.

KingKrool said:
As for your workgroup problem, are u sure that both of them belong to the same workgroup? And also, switch on ZoneAlarm, and then put both computers in each other's trusted zone.
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ok. both are in the same workgroup and had already added the computers to the trusted zone.

KingKrool said:
Check task manager, did u look for truevector (vsmon.exe)? truevector is a ZA service, and even if ZA is ot running, this service sometimes runs, and it will block some things..
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ok will try this one out. vsmon.exe is running.
 
ferrar! said:
for net send start the windows messenger service (not recommended)
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ok so I had disabled messenger so no problems there.

ferrar! said:
check the "nbtstat -a <ip number of B>" command to see if netbios can resolve ip to name
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C:\>nbtstat -a 192.168.0.3

XBOX NIC 1:
Node IpAddress: [10.30.48.59] Scope Id: []

Host not found.

XBOX NIC 2:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.0.1] Scope Id: []

Host not found.

will upload the service.txt tomorrow. having trouble uploading it now :huh:
 
KingKrool said:
Your results... well
can u tell me the netmask of both NICs? shud be 255.255.255.0 right?
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yes both are 255.255.255.0
and haven;t set the default gateway to anything as 'm using the sify bb client.
which doesnt work with default gateway set...
 
Well, NIC 1 result is correct enuf, but NIC2 is on the same n/w as 192.168.0.3 and shud be able to access it without a gateway. Wait for ferrar! to tell you what this means, I can't make head or tail of your situation
 
There seems to be some kind of an upload problem with TE. do you want me to post the enitre service.txt file here?

thought i'd ask before posting it as it is too big.
 
just see the status on both machine;

sc query vsmon

If service is running on both machines then either get rid of ZA or add the network in truted zone.

Also important check this service Windows Firewall:

sc query SharedAccess

shutdown this service:

sc stop SharedAccess

Now test your network access

Orelse try a simple workaround:
edit "C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\etc\hosts"

and add the hostname of ur machine B and corrosponding IP and vice versa for machine A in B

Regards.
 
ferrar! said:
just see the status on both machine;

sc query vsmon

If service is running on both machines then either get rid of ZA or add the network in truted zone.
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no. its not running as I had shutdown ZA

ferrar! said:
Also important check this service Windows Firewall:

sc query SharedAccess

shutdown this service:

sc stop SharedAccess

Now test your network access

Orelse try a simple workaround:
edit "C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\etc\hosts"

and add the hostname of ur machine B and corrosponding IP and vice versa for machine A in B
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had shutdown the Windows Firewall service. and hosts file already contains the hostname of the other PC. can ping it using the hostname too.

:huh:
 
May be your Node Type is set to p-node.
Check if these keys are present registry and delete if yes:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\NetBt\Parameters

Keys:
NodeType
DhcpNodeType

restart machine

Regards.
 
ok. replying after a long time. but i didn't find both the keys in the registry...

anyway, the problems SOLVED (Hurrah)... I decided to run the Network Setup Wizard (again for the 5th time maybe) and this time it worked. Can now access the PCs using Network Places and all that... whatever. checked out remaining ways of accessing the other PCs. works as well. so dont know what the problem was and why NSW didn;t work when I ran it previously.

but what the heck. problem solved. Thanks guys for your inputs. really appreciate it.

:)
 
sorry for stealing this thread but i need help.

well my situation is very similar to the first post but with minor differences which is the major problem, well here is the story,

when im connected to a lan i can:
connect to my own pc through workgroup
connect to other pcs using ftps, even though i do have alot network problems with it, for e.g. reconnecting to get an updated file list, only to see that nothings changed, even though the person who changed it can clearly see the changes + i dont download from other pcs as fast as my friends at the lan, i was dowloading about 400kb per sec everyone else was downloading at 6mb per second, no one knew why
connect to the net with reasonable speeds
connect to other pc in a game,for e.g steam, lan game works fine

I cant:
see other computers on workgroup
i cant connect straight to the computer using \\i.p. i get the error 'You don't have permissions to use this network resource'
when i search for the computer name, it cant be found
i cannot connect to other computer, they cannot connect to me same permissions error

i'm running xp home edition
the workgroup is the same between the computers,
i have tried the network setup wizard, like 100 hundred times on all computer still got the problem.
i tried restrictanonymous=0
firewall were disabled,
i never had account passwords
if anyone can help it would be most appreciated if someone can help me with both network problem and even the ftp download speed while on the network
my email is supraHB@hotmail.com.
 
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