ACT Fibernet silently cuts FUP from 3300GB to 1500GB

[YeAhx]

They ain't slow by any means. I have been using Bharat Fiber as my secondary connection for over 3 yrs now. Haven't faced a single issue till date. As a matter of fact the experience on BSNL has been far better than most other ISPs. They offer more speed than advertised.

This is not BSNL of the past, The upgraded Fiber network is stable and reliable, I suggest you stop spreading misinformation

It was a joke. I know their fiber network is different from their telecom network (which is still struggling very hard).

 

[guest_999]

I think nobody is giving 5tb FUP in India no? Most of these companies are either 3.3TB or 1.5TB.

BSNL among tier-1 providers, excitel among tier-2 providers & many among tier-3 ISPs.
@PunkX 75

Seedbox are additional cost on top of premium you pay for your gigabit connection, no idea if they all saturate your gigabit connection as well.

My personal experience torrenting from my PC directly on 1 gbps, never came close to that speed on any private trackers i used, so moved back to lesser speeds.

Cheapest seedbox cost around 400 per month. I don't have a gigabit connection but if I had then I still would have kept the seedbox. No Indian ISP will give you good enough peering on any home connection even if they launch 2gbps connection in future so you will not get good uploads on such connections while using pvt trackers & that is where seedbox come in. To give you an example, the Rs.400 seedbox can easily give 1-2TB of buffer every month on many good pvt trackers easily. You also save electricity cost by not running your seeding pc most of the time & instead use seedbox to seed torrents on pvt trackers while following the no HnR rule.

 

[Darth Vader]

No Indian ISP will give you good enough peering on any home connection but if I had then I still would have kept the seedbox.

We come full circle now. This was my point, a seedbox is cheaper and more useful than your gigabit internet connection. A redundant second ISP is more useful than Gigabit internet. Then why bother with Gigabit connection in the first place when you cant get anything done with it ?

10 min 60GB download of bluray remux isnt happening on your gigabit connection just like that, never happened with me and nor have i seen any proof of that here from anyone using gigabit connection.

A 300/500 mbps connection + seedbox/Alldebrid/Realdebrid, you get everything. 1 gigabit is useless unless proven otherwise.

 

[YeAhx]

Cheapest seedbox cost around 400 per month. I don't have a gigabit connection but if I had then I still would have kept the seedbox. No Indian ISP will give you good enough peering on any home connection even if they launch 2gbps connection in future so you will not get good uploads on such connections while using pvt trackers & that is where seedbox come in. To give you an example, the Rs.400 seedbox can easily give 1-2TB of buffer every month on many good pvt trackers easily. You also save electricity cost by not running your seeding pc most of the time & instead use seedbox to seed torrents on pvt trackers while following the no HnR rule.

I wonder how good that 400rs a month seedbox is but it will still be cheaper than paying your ISP for a higher tier plan so that is insane value for money for a seedbox. For private trackers even a cheaper seedbox is worth it since your upload speed matters more in terms on how fast you are able to upload and if your home internet chokes due to port issues or just not quick enough to communicate in the swarm then you lose the connection (as in someone else connects faster than you and uploads data to a leecher) and you miss out of gaining ratio. I have only been a part of one private tracker community (AB) and if you use your home network you are getting out-competed 9 out of 10 times against users with multi-gigabit seedboxes.

 

[Ssreek]

BSNL among tier-1 providers, excitel among tier-2 providers & many among tier-3 ISPs.
@PunkX 75


Cheapest seedbox cost around 400 per month. I don't have a gigabit connection but if I had then I still would have kept the seedbox. No Indian ISP will give you good enough peering on any home connection even if they launch 2gbps connection in future so you will not get good uploads on such connections while using pvt trackers & that is where seedbox come in. To give you an example, the Rs.400 seedbox can easily give 1-2TB of buffer every month on many good pvt trackers easily. You also save electricity cost by not running your seeding pc most of the time & instead use seedbox to seed torrents on pvt trackers while following the no HnR rule.

which seedbox is this?

 

[Blue Leaf]

No Indian ISP will give you good enough peering on any home connection even if they launch 2gbps connection in future so you will not get good uploads on such connections while using pvt trackers & that is where seedbox come in.

Just wanted to provide some input around this, This problem is not just limited to India, Infact this is true even if you reside in the US or UK.
Most seedbox vendors have their servers hosted in the Netherlands mainly in the leaseweb DC. Few vendors also provide boxes hosted in France (ovh) and Germany (hetzner)
The AMS-IX exchnage in the NL is just superior and unmatched, A lot matters on PNI and Transit providers how they peer and route traffic to rest of the world.

When a torrent is just uploaded you can max out your download speed, I did on my gbps connection but the problem is with upload speed, you can never match the upload when comapred to seedboxes. While you will be uploading at 10 to 50 MB/s on your home commection on a 1gbps you woud max out 1gbps ulpload on a seedbox specially during the initial swarm.

Regarding downloading from seedbox to home PC on a 1gbps hommection, as per my exprience I was able to max out my download speed via IDM when I was downloaidng files to my pc from a dedicated server hosted in France (Scaleway) Unfortunately I no longer have the 1gbps plan else I would have provided a screenshot. But I still have the dedicated server so If somebody has a 1gbps home connection and would like to test download speed, do let me know I will give you access to my file server.

 

[Darth Vader]

When a torrent is just uploaded you can max out your download speed, I did on my gbps connection

Which tracker gets you there if you don't mind telling ? With my ACT giga, my problem was on both ways. Never just the upload issue, my download was also slow with torrentleech and other trackers and my latency was no better than people here with 100 mbps connection.

 

[Blue Leaf]

Which tracker gets you there if you don't mind telling ? With my ACT giga, my problem was on both ways. Never just the upload issue, my download was also slow with torrentleech and other trackers and my latency was no better than people here with 100 mbps connection.

empornium, IPT, TL and HDBits they seem to have lots of peers on new and popular releases.

 

[Darth Vader]

empornium, IPT, TL and HDBits they seem to have lots of peers on new and popular releases.

With TL & TD, i get 500mbps solid on any new/old torrent consistently. The funny thing is, a lot of us here had used gigabit internet in the past but not continued with it for long.

 

[privateer]

Sure, peering with NL seedboxes might be poor, but aren't we forgetting players like whatbox and ultra have singapore servers too. I'm sure we can hit 800Mbps+ speeds to those. But I agree with the basic premise. Rather than paying an exorbitant amount to any ISP for 1Gbps plans with laughable FUP limits(I mean, if one were to max a symmetrical Gigabit connection for 3h 40min, they would run out of their monthly quota), better get a seedbox, or a dedicated server even. Peering is more important than outright speed, and a 1g server at Leaseweb NL is going to do much better than a CGNAT Gigabit in India. 200-300Mbps is sufficient for regular use, unless one has a large number of devices.

which seedbox is this?

I think Ultra's cheapest HDD plan is 4.5-5$ depending on payment term.

 

[superczar]

My personal experience torrenting from my PC directly on 1 gbps, never came close to that speed on any private trackers i used, so moved back to lesser speeds.

Funnily enough, Its a whole lot cheaper to take multiple WAN connections and aggregate them instead. Added benefit of failover which is anyway a must have these days, especially if WFH

I currently have Airtel 300 and ACT 500 in load balanced mode plus a local ISP 200 mbps which is not strictly needed but I am letting it run till the plan expires in June.
Normal usage speeds are plenty fast - but on well seeded pvt torrents, I have seen speeds in excess of a gbps going up to 130-140 MB/s

Even after the local ISP plan expires, I guess the aggregates should still be well over 800 .
I pay around 1500/- for Airtel 300 and 1000/- for ACT 500 which still turns out to be cheaper than a single gigabit plan

The only downside is single thread speeds will still be limited to 300+ or 500+ depending on the routing path used by the router but I don't see any real world scenario where it won't suffice.
PS: The router is opnsense on a n100 and the WAN ports/ LAN backbone are all 2.5gbps

 

[guest_999]

10 min 60GB download of bluray remux isnt happening on your gigabit connection just like that, never happened with me and nor have i seen any proof of that here from anyone using gigabit connection.

I don't have a gigabit connection but since you had one then are you saying you were never able to achieve 1gbps download speed even when using cdn service based providers. Alldebrid/ultra most likely use a cdn server in Mumbai.

which seedbox is this?

Black Friday deal but ultra.cc cheapest plan available for $4.95 all the time recently.

Funnily enough, Its a whole lot cheaper to take multiple WAN connections and aggregate them instead. Normal usage speeds are plenty fast - but on well seeded pvt torrents, I have seen speeds in excess of a gbps going up to 130-140 MB/s

Which pvt trackers actually allow you to download same torrent simultaneously from different IPs?

 

[Darth Vader]

I don't have a gigabit connection but since you had one then are you saying you were never able to achieve 1gbps download speed even when using cdn service based providers.

I can achieve 1 gbps easily with CDNs, Steam games, Software ISO etc, but no exp with seedboxes that uses CDNs though. When i torrent directly from my PC with private trackers, i hardly hit the 50% bandwidth even with new hot/new torrents. I understand how a lot of people here might use seedboxes to avoid HnR while manage to download all via seedbox @ 1 gig.

My logic was why pay more for seedboxes at all when you're paying a lot for 1 Gig speeds already, you shd set you seedbox locally right ? With ACT, i had no issues with upload speeds, its just we have shitty unreliable internet so any premium speeds are a waste of money is how i look at it.

Funnily enough, Its a whole lot cheaper to take multiple WAN connections and aggregate them instead. Added benefit of failover which is anyway a must have these days, especially if WFH

I currently have Airtel 300 and ACT 500 in load balanced mode plus a local ISP 200 mbps which is not strictly needed but I am letting it run till the plan expires in June.
Normal usage speeds are plenty fast - but on well seeded pvt torrents, I have seen speeds in excess of a gbps going up to 130-140 MB/s

Even after the local ISP plan expires, I guess the aggregates should still be well over 800 .
I pay around 1500/- for Airtel 300 and 1000/- for ACT 500 which still turns out to be cheaper than a single gigabit plan

The only downside is single thread speeds will still be limited to 300+ or 500+ depending on the routing path used by the router but I don't see any real world scenario where it won't suffice.
PS: The router is opnsense on a n100 and the WAN ports/ LAN backbone are all 2.5gbps

This is literally what i did, indeed the smartest choice. I did with Airtel (200 mbps) & Hathway & ACT @ 400mbps load balance. It still came out cheaper than the 1 Gig Internet and ZERO downtime whatsoever.