Yeh legend spends 40k on cpu and get 5k air cooler and UV it. You are supposed to run 40k cpu overclocked with unhinged power not UV.
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ashish
Galvanizer
So you mean air coolers totally suck in cooling a 40k cpu? ROFL!
I have gone through my AIO which failed one fine day abruptly and died and yeah it did leaked but luckily the mobo was saved. It was a corsair one. My friends CM died and leaked and it cost him his rig.
Looks like you are a total AIO fan and hence the hatred towards air coolers.
OMEGA44-XT
Innovator
Don't worry much about heating. 5700X3D 's heat can be managed even by AG400 (costs 1.8k) & people here are recommending you to buy AG620 (3k) which is even better.
Unless your reason to buy cooler is aesthetics (doubt you can spend too much aesthetics given your budget), waste of money to buy an AIO.
Cabinet - MSI 320R or 120A for something cheaper.
Better to upgrade RAM to 2x16GB rather than spending money on AIO.
bruh i don't hate air cooler infact i love arctic 36 i got one, if you are getting 100-125w chip which boost 150-200w Aio it is. specially 3d-v cache amd you need better cooling.So you mean air coolers totally suck in cooling a 40k cpu? ROFL!
I have gone through my AIO which failed one fine day abruptly and died and yeah it did leaked but luckily the mobo was saved. It was a corsair one. My friends CM died and leaked and it cost him his rig.
Looks like you are a total AIO fan and hence the hatred towards air coolers.
OMEGA44-XT
Innovator
For 5% or so productivity uplift & almost negligible improvement in gaming performance, why should someone OC the CPU & increase power draw disproportionately? Also there are cases of X3D CPUs getting damaged in AsRock mobo due to extra voltage (Intel also had a voltage fiasco), so more reason to not OC. I'm saving 20-30W with UV & having same performance as stock on my 9800X3D with lower temps.
I do agree that X3D generally runs hotter but except 9950X3D, other CPUs don't warrant an AIO. Also a 240mm AIO provides barely much benefit over say an AG620 but costs 2x the money. 360mm AIO is what 250W CPUs need.
No, 360mm or 420mm good AIOs will easily outperform NH D15 but most CPUs don't need a cooler more than AG620, even in India.
even considering that I'll be doing cpu heavy workloads? also why do peeps end up buying bigger AIOs? aesthetics?
Depends on the CPU.
For something like a 14900K, no air cooler can cut it. You need a good 360/420 to cool that thing decently with overclocks without any UV. The thicker the rad, the more water and surface area you have for heat dissipation.
Others may just stick one on a Core i5 13400 just for aesthetrics
OMEGA44-XT
Innovator
Aesthetics is one reason.
Half knowledge is another, is pretty common.
SFF can be considered as another very niche category where many cases won't fit a big air cooler.
For someone using a CPU under 200W (even at extended load), AIO is not required. Can just check reviews of AG620 or other dual tower dual fan coolers.
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OMEGA44-XT
Innovator
I am using 9800X3D with a puny AK400. Sure, at stock it runs just above 90C but didn't throttle in 15min or so extended Cinebench. With some UV, it stays under 85C at sustained load. For gaming, temps are 65-75C. My GPU is 5080, so 300W of power draw on that, so case is bound to be quite hot, still, no concerns. Cabinet is Lancool II Mesh, if you are wondering.
Again, I don't recommend AK400/AG400 to be paired with 9800X3D but an AG620 will easily suffice. Just don't overspend on AIOs when not required. Something like 9950X warrants a good AIO or even for Intel i7/i9, but Intel CPUs are not recommended after recent fiasco.
el_diablo
Forerunner
+1 for this, I have the same cpu+cooler, use UV too and my case is MSI MAG 120A airflow. Temps rarely cross 80C while under load. Using UV keeps the cpu cool and I get a decent uplift in cinebench scores. This is a kinda summary for todays session was running a python script using heavy multiprocessing and was playing CS2 simultaneously.
FE is still available on STPL for MSRP: https://nvidia.onlinestpl.co.in/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080
I am not saying you need Aio , AIo is recommend for x3d cpu and obv shintel they have 125w base Tdp , yes 620s/ak-ag620 or any dual tower is good but if one can afford you should get Aio over air cooler for x3d chips, you don't want to run your cpu at 85c in full load over extended period of time even though its fine, one would always prefer to run cpu at lower temp.
if you have to choose between 10k noctua and 10k LF3, Get LF3 its way better.
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I am honestly avoiding RPTech right now, until the 4090 issue for a FM is sorted out, I'm scared of sinking in money only for these scum to deny me warranty for things that they ****ed up on
enc0dex264
Galvanizer
I find this really hard to believe man.. I have a ProArt PA602 with 200mm x 38mm thick fans x 2 blowing fresh air into the case with a LC420 AIO in the top with 3 x Noctua 140mm fans.. my case also has a button which when flipped makes the fans go at 100%.. which i just flipped on.
My 9800X3D settings are as such +200 offset for max boost and PBO -20.. thermal paste is also noctua.
I just ran the cinebench 2024 multi core benchmark and here are the results:
It still hits 80 C which i believe to be the stock thermal throttle limit.. if you consider these results with the best possible combination of favourable parts.. even then im losing 100mhz of the top.. in games my processor runs at 5425 almost consistently. I'm pretty sure if i remove the -20 UV i will lose even more mhz.
If your AK400 is able to keep it below 80 C without throttling you probably have the best unicorn AK400 in this world.
Temps dont cross 80 C because thats the default thermal limit sir.. you are losing boost performance.
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@Surendra Meena
ml 360-6.5k
case- msi forge 120a
5700x3d
Check if you can front mount this Aio..
shoould be around 30k
ml 360-6.5k
case- msi forge 120a
5700x3d
Check if you can front mount this Aio..
shoould be around 30k
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el_diablo
Forerunner
Find it strange that on default PBO settings temps can touch 95 degrees but enabling PBO+UV limits it to 80, isnt the thermal limit 90-95C ?